Ft. Hood: Official story full of holes By Gregory Patin
Obwon
Ft. Hood: Official story full of holes By Gregory Patin
10 Nov 2009 The more information there is, the more
inconsistencies that can be found. That does not make any
topic a conspiracy theory, it just makes it what it
is...questionable. A good example is what allegedly happened
at Ft. Hood last week... A retired MP, Michael Martinez also
said: "No way! That would be impossible. Even if he had two
semi-auto pistols [according to reports he used a 9mm and a
.357 revolver to gun down over 40 people] he would still
have had to stop to reload and someone would have jumped his
ass. Most people on base aren't carrying [weapons], but MPs
are and they would have been there in a heartbeat." (CLG
item in article)
Daniel
> Ft. Hood: Official story full of holes By Gregory Patin
>
>
> 10 Nov 2009 The more information there is, the more
> inconsistencies that can be found. That does not make any
> topic a conspiracy theory, it just makes it what it
> is...questionable. A good example is what allegedly happened
> at Ft. Hood last week... A retired MP, Michael Martinez also
> said: "No way! That would be impossible. Even if he had two
> semi-auto pistols [according to reports he used a 9mm and a
> .357 revolver to gun down over 40 people] he would still
> have had to stop to reload and someone would have jumped his
> ass. Most people on base aren't carrying [weapons], but MPs
> are and they would have been there in a heartbeat." (CLG
> item in article)
Hey dipshit, there is no "official story", since the incident is STILL
being investigated.
Obwon
Don't worry, there is an "official story" emerging from
and taking shape with the facts that the officials are
releasing and the media are using! But it is good to hear
you telling us not to form any opinons based on that.
Unfortunately talk radio and talk teevee/cable aren't quite
in line with that view. My guess is that the writer of that
should have used "official story" in quotes, for lack of
anything better to call it.
Daniel
Funny, I haven't heard anyone quoting an "official story".
Ivan Skavinsky Skavar
<5e334233-11ba-4edd...@l35g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
Daniel <sabot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
FORT HOOD, TEXAS (AP) - The Army psychiatrist accused in the Fort Hood
shootings was charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder in the
military's legal system, making him eligible for the death penalty if
convicted, officials said Thursday.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9BU59V80&show_article=1
Keep in mind this is a link to a conservative web site, so this may not
be true.
And also, the facts aren't in yet, we don't really know if this guy is
actually guilty, and even if he is, he won't get executed because it
will enrage Muslims.
Many non-Muslimsin the US voluntarily submit to and endorse sharia law,
they just don't realize it.
Daniel
> In article
> <5e334233-11ba-4edd-9cf1-56be998d9...@l35g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
Actually, since it is a link to a "conservative" web site, the odds
are more than likely that it IS true, which BTW, it is.
>
> And also, the facts aren't in yet, we don't really know if this guy is
> actually guilty, and even if he is, he won't get executed because it
> will enrage Muslims.
How many eyewitnesses will it take to convince you?
Al
<a53028d4-8de1-4e0d...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Daniel <sabot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Well, *I* know that, and *you* know that, but you know how strict the
left is about these things.
> > And also, the facts aren't in yet, we don't really know if this guy is
> > actually guilty, and even if he is, he won't get executed because it
> > will enrage Muslims.
>
> How many eyewitnesses will it take to convince you?
Guess I'd better hit the /s/ tag next time.
Daniel
> In article
> <a53028d4-8de1-4e0d-a42d-5804901ba...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
IMHO, executing him would do nothing more than make a martyr out of
him. I say let him spend the rest of his miserable life in
Leavenworth, making big rocks into small rocks.
Al
<8dcc43d5-0660-4f0e...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Daniel <sabot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
If he stays alive, it shows our weakness, those are the rules of the
Islamist game, only they get to win no matter what you do.
And his death will give Islamism no more power than it has already, and
they already have a gazillion martyrs, one more won't make that big a
difference.
He wanted martyrdom last year, I say we give it to him.
This "how its done in America" BS is a joke. It's not how its done in
America. Look how FDR handled the Nazi spies. They didn't harm a hair on
anyone's head and were executed a month after they were caught, after a
military tribunal. KSM should get the same.
It will make the left angry because it violates their sense of
submission, and it'll make the Muslims angry, because they're always
angry, but that's just too fucking bad.
At least we're not gonna saw his head off on youtube.
Daniel
Well, I believe this one might be a bit different, since he "walked
among the infidels".
>
> He wanted martyrdom last year, I say we give it to him.
>
> This "how its done in America" BS is a joke. It's not how its done in
> America. Look how FDR handled the Nazi spies. They didn't harm a hair on
> anyone's head and were executed a month after they were caught, after a
> military tribunal. KSM should get the same.
I agree. The bleeding hear liberal ROE our troops have to abide by is
what is getting them killed, and the reason AlQueda and the Taliban
still exist, and one of the biggest reasons why we are still in Iraq
and Afghanistan.
>
> It will make the left angry because it violates their sense of
> submission, and it'll make the Muslims angry, because they're always
> angry, but that's just too fucking bad.
>
> At least we're not gonna saw his head off on youtube.
Maybe we should.
Al
<502fd9ba-63d5-465c...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Daniel <sabot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I dunno, I think Islamists will carry through with their plans no matter
how much we wring our suicidal Politically-Correct hands. The decision
is a huge WIN for Islamists.
> > He wanted martyrdom last year, I say we give it to him.
> >
> > This "how its done in America" BS is a joke. It's not how its done in
> > America. Look how FDR handled the Nazi spies. They didn't harm a hair on
> > anyone's head and were executed a month after they were caught, after a
> > military tribunal. KSM should get the same.
>
>
> I agree. The bleeding hear liberal ROE our troops have to abide by is
> what is getting them killed, and the reason AlQueda and the Taliban
> still exist, and one of the biggest reasons why we are still in Iraq
> and Afghanistan.
While we have to recognize how Muslims see things, we can't let them set
the terms of how we react to them. That is a form of submission, or
"islam".
Because the most vocal, active and imperialist are the Islamists, and
the PC solution is usually the solution that serves them the best.
What we have is strident PC - purportedly to protect Muslims from us -
which empowers radical Islam, which kills the most Muslims. It's the
perpetual circle of leftist logic that, if left unchecked, is guaranteed
failure - it's just a question of magnitude.
> > It will make the left angry because it violates their sense of
> > submission, and it'll make the Muslims angry, because they're always
> > angry, but that's just too fucking bad.
> >
> > At least we're not gonna saw his head off on youtube.
>
>
> Maybe we should.
There's the other paradox created by PC leftism. If we inflict their own
practices on them, the left and Islamists scream FOUL, but the Islamists
are free from leftist criticism when they employ those tactics on the
west and fellow Muslims.
And when presented with the fact that it's Muslims, not the west, that
kill the most Muslims, they'll point out how it's our fault because we
pushed them into a corner.
Political correctness and Islamism - they were made for each other, they
have a common enemy.
Daniel
Al wrote:
> I dunno, I think Islamists will carry through with their plans no matter
> how much we wring our suicidal Politically-Correct hands. The decision
> is a huge WIN for Islamists.
The real problem is that these people only respect strength, and we
are showing nothing but weakness.
Al
<b33f0cd6-fa6c-46c8...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Daniel <sabot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
If I was a liberal/moderate Muslim who risked all to ally with Bush's
promises of support, I'd be pretty fucking nervous right now about the
guy who calls the war for their liberation as "the wrong war".
The guy who thinks the health-care revolution should have been passed
unwritten and unread in 60 days is now rejecting his own war strategy he
assured us was a solid strategy over 60 days ago.
The only way he'll get re-elected is if the R's get congressional
control. It worked for Clinton. And Obama, like Clinton, needed some
adults in the room.
Daniel
nobama is a lane duck already. he is one and done regardless of the
outcome of the 2010 elections.
Al
<09d7f892-04e5-4468...@s15g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>,
Daniel <sabot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
His chances improve with a repub congress, just like Clinton.
Daniel
Al
<36750777-92f2-4a49...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Daniel <sabot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
It's an impetus for people to keep him in office.
Otherwise, the crumbling dem congress takes him with them in 2012.
Daniel
No, they don't. The people have seen the mistake they made and won't
make it again.
Al
<f5acfe5b-a009-408d...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Daniel <sabot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
If the R's take congress, that will energize his base.
How big that "base" will be in '12 is debatable.