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htownboy

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Sep 17, 2003, 9:24:48 PM9/17/03
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Bruce

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Sep 17, 2003, 9:28:38 PM9/17/03
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"htownboy" <htow...@houston.rr.com> wrote:

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Nowhere really. Check out the area Randall's gas stations and Sams Club
for the best deals but even Sams screws you. A wholesale club should not
play area pricing games yet the gas at the Sams on Fannin and 610 is always
a nickel or dime higher than the one at Hwy 6 and Katy.


Tesla

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Sep 17, 2003, 9:34:31 PM9/17/03
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I alwayswonder, what are the regulations regarding price change, if any.
Like, can they change it any time of the day, or do they have to set it for
the day and can't change it anymore? Please let me know

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Bruce

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Sep 17, 2003, 9:49:43 PM9/17/03
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"Tesla" <Te...@as.sd> wrote:

>I alwayswonder, what are the regulations regarding price change, if any.
>Like, can they change it any time of the day, or do they have to set it for
>the day and can't change it anymore? Please let me know

They can change it anytime they want, as often as they want.

JerryMouse

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Sep 17, 2003, 10:05:29 PM9/17/03
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htownboy wrote:
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Gas is cheap everywhere. It's cheaper than milk. It's cheaper than designer
water. It's cheaper than orange juice. It's cheaper than motor oil. It's
cheaper than Coca-Cola. It's cheaper than coffee.

Yes, gasoline is cheaper than cheap.


Bruce

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Sep 17, 2003, 10:12:47 PM9/17/03
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"JerryMouse" <nos...@bisusa.com> wrote:

Of course, I use 140 gallons a month of gas and about 5 gals of milk, no
oil, 10 gal of coffee, etc.

User Name

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WT Stull

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Sep 17, 2003, 11:22:14 PM9/17/03
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Mr. htownboy <htow...@houston.rr.com> spammed the all the "houston" news
groups except houston.oilbarons; houston.porn_downloaders, houston.porn
producers; houston.corporate_weasels; houston.folks_that_dont_think when he
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< So where is the cheap gas in Houston?>

Stull fills in:

In Seabrook, $1.49.9 (regular unleaded- diesel abt a dime cheaper) at Hwy
146 and 5th St at the foot of the Kemah boardwalk bridge..

That said:

Think an avg purchase of 15 gal.
Think avg mpg at 20mpg.

15gal in Seabrook = $22.48 (15.0*1.49.9)
15 gal elsewhere locally = $23.24 (15.0*1.54.9)

Difference in purchase of 15 gal = 75 cents or slightly less than 1/2 gallon
at the cheap price or ~10 miles.

Result = If you can find $1.49.9 price by driving another 10 miles you save
nothing.
If you have to drive 5 miles to get the $1.49.9 price you save 37.5 cents on
the entire purchase. (a pack of gum)

If you do things like this based on price alone, you don't have enough to do
with your time. I am retired (retarded) and have a lot of time to figure
things like this out for y'all. Or mebbe I din't get fer enuf in skuul.

If you get 50mpg you can drive more than twice the distance to get break
even on the purchase of 15 gal.

15gal in Seabrook = $22.48 (15.0*1.49.9)
15 gal elsewhere locally = $23.24 (15.0*1.54.9)

Difference in purchase of 15 gal = 75 cents or slightly less than 1/2 gallon
at the cheap price or ~25 miles.

Result = If you can find $1.49.9 price by driving another 25 miles you save
nothing.
If you have to drive 12.5 miles to get the $1.49.9 price you still save 37.5
cents on the 15gal purchase. (a pack of gum)

Regards,

WT Stull bst...@ev1.net

"I played a lot of tough clubs in my time. Once a guy in one of those clubs
wanted to bet me $10 that I was dead. I was afraid to bet." - Henry
Youngman

area242

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Sep 18, 2003, 12:33:42 AM9/18/03
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Casa Ole

Susan James

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Sep 18, 2003, 1:39:40 AM9/18/03
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Bruce wrote:

And...??? Are you suggesting that volume should set the price.

Gas is cheaper than bottled water. Water comes out of the ground gets put in
bottles.

Oil comes out out of the ground, 5000 or more feet deep, then carried by tanker,
then refined... so you can sqwack...

I've got an idea... drive less.

magnolia

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Sep 18, 2003, 7:38:06 AM9/18/03
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I was in Pasadena over the weekend, the Conoco on Shaver and Vista was at
$1.42.

LOL and I got a good laugh on the Casa Ole bit. That ain't free... you
still gotta pay, what? $1.00 for the plate of refried (refined) beans? Not
to mention the tip for the waiter.


William Devine, II

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Sep 18, 2003, 8:00:35 AM9/18/03
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The Gas stations typically aren't the ones that do the pricing games, the
gas suppliers are.
For example, Texaco sets prices differently for different stations usually
based on the sales volume and the income in the general area that the
station is expected to sell to.


William

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William Devine, II

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Sep 18, 2003, 8:11:08 AM9/18/03
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Hmm.. 'Drive Less' I like that.
For the past 18 months I've lived in Jersey Village and worked just south of
NASA (~105 mile round trip.) I would have loved to just simply be able to
say 'Drive Less' but that's not a possible solution to this.
I wish gas stations gave volume discounts. Burning through two tanks of
fuel per week, even 10c/gallon saves a lot of cash.
When I buy Ozarka in the 5 gallon dispensor bottle, it's cheaper per gallon
than when I buy it in pints. When I buy OJ in 1 Gallon bottles, it's
cheaper than when I buy it in pints. If I go to Sams and buy a case of Coke
it's cheaper per can than buying it individually.
So yes, I too think volume should set a price as it does for almost every
other product on the market. Hell, ever bought two new cars at once?
They'll even give you a discount on them because the sales guy can afford to
lose 33% commision on two cars and still make more than selling just one.

William

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William Devine, II

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Sep 18, 2003, 8:15:49 AM9/18/03
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I've tried explaining this exact theory to the in-laws for quite a while.
They used to drive 5-10 miles to another gas station because they were
5c-8c/gal cheaper. It takes me 23 gallons to fill up and I get 15 mpg so
although a 5c difference saves me $1.15 per fill up, if I have to drive more
than 9 miles to get a 5c savings, it's a financial waste of time. BUT
driving farther than the local shell/texaco/exxon stores is an actual waste
of time anyway :-P

William

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JerryMouse

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Sep 18, 2003, 7:46:36 PM9/18/03
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William Devine, II wrote:
> Hmm.. 'Drive Less' I like that.
> For the past 18 months I've lived in Jersey Village and worked just
> south of NASA (~105 mile round trip.) I would have loved to just
> simply be able to say 'Drive Less' but that's not a possible solution
> to this.
> I wish gas stations gave volume discounts. Burning through two tanks
> of fuel per week, even 10c/gallon saves a lot of cash.
> When I buy Ozarka in the 5 gallon dispensor bottle, it's cheaper per
> gallon than when I buy it in pints. When I buy OJ in 1 Gallon
> bottles, it's cheaper than when I buy it in pints. If I go to Sams
> and buy a case of Coke it's cheaper per can than buying it
> individually.
> So yes, I too think volume should set a price as it does for almost
> every other product on the market. Hell, ever bought two new cars at
> once? They'll even give you a discount on them because the sales guy
> can afford to lose 33% commision on two cars and still make more than
> selling just one.

Gas stations make a smaller percentage profit on gasoline than they do on
beef jerky.

Your employer might be interested in allowing you to work four 10-hour days
or permitting a tele-commute one day a week, thereby cutting your gasoline
bill by 20% (not insignificant).

One way you can save money is to use a credit card that has rewards. I use
American Express whose rewards never expire and are transferable to lots of
other places (like all airlines).

People up north have 500 gallon tanks to contain heating oil. There's no
reason you can't have a 500 gallon tank of gasoline and buy wholesale.

Maybe we could talk some gasoline brand into offering a "Customer Loyalty"
card (a la Kroger's).


Steve M (remove wax for reply)

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Sep 18, 2003, 9:25:04 PM9/18/03
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:46:36 -0500, "JerryMouse" <nos...@bisusa.com>
wrote:

>People up north have 500 gallon tanks to contain heating oil. There's no
>reason you can't have a 500 gallon tank of gasoline and buy wholesale.
>
>Maybe we could talk some gasoline brand into offering a "Customer Loyalty"
>card (a la Kroger's).

Priceline.com had (briefly) a plan to sell gasoline like they sell
airline tickets and hotel rooms. You name your price, a retailer
agrees to meet it.

It didn't work.


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Bruce

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Sep 18, 2003, 9:31:32 PM9/18/03
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Susan James <sus...@NOSPAM.wt.net> wrote:

>And...??? Are you suggesting that volume should set the price.

Nope, I'm suggesting the price of those other things is irrelevent too me
because they cost so little. Gas costs me a lot.

>Gas is cheaper than bottled water. Water comes out of the ground gets put in
>bottles.

Water is a fuckin' rip off too. The bottle costs more than the contents.

>Oil comes out out of the ground, 5000 or more feet deep, then carried by tanker,
>then refined... so you can sqwack...

I have no idea what 'sqwak' is but please don't attempt to tell me about
oil when it is patently obvious that you don't know a thing about it. I've
been in the oil industry for over 20 years.

>I've got an idea... drive less.

Why? I don't care what it costs as long as it is under $3-5 a gallon. I'm
still not going to pay more than necessary. That is pure stupidity.

Bruce

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Sep 18, 2003, 9:36:01 PM9/18/03
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"William Devine, II" <wil...@nospam.smartguys.net> wrote:

>The Gas stations typically aren't the ones that do the pricing games, the
>gas suppliers are.
>For example, Texaco sets prices differently for different stations usually
>based on the sales volume and the income in the general area that the
>station is expected to sell to.

Sam's Club gets whatever price they want. Every vendor kisses Walmart's
ass and they take no shit from anyone.

Bruce

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Sep 18, 2003, 9:41:47 PM9/18/03
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"JerryMouse" <nos...@bisusa.com> wrote:

>Gas stations make a smaller percentage profit on gasoline than they do on
>beef jerky.

Of course they sell a shitpot more gas than beef jerky. A small
convenience store sells $30,000 a month in gas.

>People up north have 500 gallon tanks to contain heating oil. There's no
>reason you can't have a 500 gallon tank of gasoline and buy wholesale.

I've thought about buying it in 55 gal drums when it is cheap but I've
heard it will go bad.

Bruce

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Sep 18, 2003, 9:44:41 PM9/18/03
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PS: To the idiot that said Sam's gas will cause you to have your injectors
cleaned at $600 per year? I've been buying Sams and Randalls gas for 5
years, my car has 112,000 miles and I've NEVER had my injectors cleaned.
It runs like the day I bought it.


jwardl

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Sep 19, 2003, 2:36:14 AM9/19/03
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No.

-jwardl


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William Devine, II

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Sep 19, 2003, 9:06:47 AM9/19/03
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A long time friend of mine's family is into farming and they buy ~200
gallons at a time in gas wholesale ('farm use' meaning they don't pay many,
if any, taxes on it that are used to support the roads that their tractors
don't drive on.)
The have a stirring & pumping mechanism on their tank that keeps the fuel
from 'separating' (as his dad called it) as well as running it through some
filtering device to get the junk out of it. Since I've never seen it I
can't really explain it.
They refill the tank every 2-3 months so fuel will at least last that long.
They're not legally allowed to use it in anything but their farm truck and
tractors (basically anything that doesn't drive on the public roadways more
than X% per month, whatever that % is.)

william

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ge...@thegateway.net

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Sep 19, 2003, 9:14:42 AM9/19/03
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You "pay" the tax on gasoline when you get it from
the distributor, then the state sends you the money
for the taxes. With diesel, you do not pay the taxes
when it is delivered.

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Buck

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Sep 19, 2003, 12:01:53 PM9/19/03
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"Bruce" <br...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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It can "go bad" over time by absorbing moisture, but this isn't much of a
problem with a proper storage tank. The bigger problem is dealing with irate
neighbors because you are storing 500 gallons of a volatile material in your
garage. Heating oil isn't nearly as dangerous to house as gasoline. There
may also be laws against this, but I haven't checked with the city to find
out.

-Buck

magnolia

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Sep 19, 2003, 7:36:06 PM9/19/03
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I think there is a difference in the gas you can use for public use vs. farm
use. It might be just the diesel I'm thinking of.. but there's different
grades of gasoline, and they dye the gasoline diff't colors, if you get
caught with the dyed gasoline in a public vehicle, you can get a hefty fine.


WT Stull

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Sep 20, 2003, 1:12:02 AM9/20/03
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"JerryMouse" <nos...@bisusa.com> speculated on saving $ on fuel:

> People up north have 500 gallon tanks to contain heating oil. There's no
> reason you can't have a 500 gallon tank of gasoline and buy wholesale.

Stull fills in for Jerry and another poster:

If you live within ANY city limits, a large gasoline storage (any free
standing or buried tank) will need to be licensed and inspected by local
Fire and Envioronmental Officials on a REGULAR basis with the attendant FEES
associated with bureaucracy (more than you save after you construct the
required concrete containment dams and the environmental vapor and leakage
containments.

Your deed resrrictions are UNLIKELY to allow such stuff if you live in a
deed restricted plat.

Your neighbors LIKELY to become uneasy having so much fuel stored a few feet
from their underinsured abode. They will RAT you out and you will spending
your time and money with ATTORNEYS (an expensive pastime).

The 10 or 18 wheeler delivering said juice is likely to be spotted and
ticketed for driving a too heavy truck on cheezy subdivision streets.

As for buying fuel sans tax - using it in the car on public roads - both the
state and the Feds use the "Road Use" taxes on fuel and put scofflaws in the
Col. Klink and fine them heavily.

Most Fuel vendors will refuse delivery to residential neighborhoods.

If your use is truly "farm and ranch" use and you live in the stix a lot of
the above doesn't apply but the environmental regs and leak containment
rules still do.

Steve M (remove wax for reply)

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Oct 4, 2003, 2:53:33 PM10/4/03
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 13:39:02 -0500, Satellite_Shopper@[204.52.135.1]
wrote:

>In article <AP7ab.38055$z32....@twister.austin.rr.com> "htownboy"
><htow...@houston.rr.com> writes:
>
>>Replies?
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>$1.32/9 Regular unleaded
>$1.42/9 mid-grade (89 octane)
>$1.52/9 premium (93 octane)
>
>Where? Diamond Shamrock corner of Bissonett and Addicks-Howell Rd. approx
>1 mi. E. of Hwy 6 on the far west side. Filled up today (Sat'dy 10/04)

I filled up two cars on Thursday and Friday, I saw 1.339 per gallon at
lots of places at that price around my home (near Dairy Ashford /
I-10), and other parts of town.

Phill.

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Oct 5, 2003, 7:51:44 AM10/5/03
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In article <gq4unv0fpjmu3n66i...@4ax.com>,
Satellite_Shopper@[204.52.135.1] wrote:

> In article <AP7ab.38055$z32....@twister.austin.rr.com> "htownboy"
> <htow...@houston.rr.com> writes:
>
> >Replies?
>
> $1.32/9 Regular unleaded
> $1.42/9 mid-grade (89 octane)
> $1.52/9 premium (93 octane)
>
> Where? Diamond Shamrock corner of Bissonett and Addicks-Howell Rd. approx
> 1 mi. E. of Hwy 6 on the far west side. Filled up today (Sat'dy 10/04)

Diamond Shamrock : We clog your fuel injectors FASTer than anyone.

Bruce

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"Phill." <Pe...@oyster.com> wrote:

>Diamond Shamrock : We clog your fuel injectors FASTer than anyone.

What an idiot.

Phill.

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In article <3f801364...@news.houston.sbcglobal.net>,
br...@nospam.com (Bruce) wrote:

Maybe, but you'd be one too if you buy'their H-Klog gasolene

John T. Jarrett

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Yep, Diamond Shamrock's got that 3-tank rule, too...give me three
tanks of mid-grade and my pickup stalls every time I try to turn a
corner! And, yeah, it is fuel injected.

Took me months to figure THAT one out...but sure 'nuff...D-S Gas
sucks.

John

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Bruce

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"Phill." <Pe...@oyster.com> wrote:

>In article <3f801364...@news.houston.sbcglobal.net>,
> br...@nospam.com (Bruce) wrote:
>
>> In houston.forsale
>> "Phill." <Pe...@oyster.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Diamond Shamrock : We clog your fuel injectors FASTer than anyone.
>>
>> What an idiot.
>
>Maybe, but you'd be one too if you buy'their H-Klog gasolene

I fill up exclusively at Diamond Shamrock, Randalls, and Sam's Club. My
car has 113,000 miles on it, bought new. I've NEVER cleaned my fuel
injectors. Out of that 5600 gallons run through them, over 1000 was
Diamond Shamrock. The same goes for my previous car up to 88,000 miles and
my wifes car 82,000 miles. NONE of them have ever needed fuel injectors
cleaned or replaced. My current car runs as smooth as the day it was
bought and gets the same mileage, which I check everytime I fill up.

You people buy into the shit shoveled by big oil. No sweat off my back but
don't spread unsubstantiated rumors.

Sergei Kosonov

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Oct 8, 2003, 5:22:36 PM10/8/03
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In article <3f820a83...@news.houston.sbcglobal.net>,
br...@nospam.com (Bruce) wrote:

It only cost me $600 to clean my injectors after using that sludge
exclusively. You sure your car has injectors?

Neal Atkins

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Oct 8, 2003, 5:44:19 PM10/8/03
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 21:22:36 GMT, Sergei Kosonov
<skos...@institute.ru> wrote:

>> You people buy into the shit shoveled by big oil. No sweat off my back but
>> don't spread unsubstantiated rumors.
>
>It only cost me $600 to clean my injectors after using that sludge
>exclusively. You sure your car has injectors?

Wow, what an idiot. The shop that does your work should at least give
you a reacharound.

Bruce

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Sergei Kosonov <skos...@institute.ru> wrote:

>It only cost me $600 to clean my injectors after using that sludge
>exclusively. You sure your car has injectors?

They got Diamond Shamrocks in Russia?

Miles Wilson

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In article <3f8484fe....@news-server.austin.rr.com>,
nat...@austin76.rr.com (Neal Atkins) wrote:

You're familiar with River Oaks Chrysler and Alan Helfman are you?

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