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Tracey

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May 6, 2002, 10:55:09 AM5/6/02
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By M. VIRGINIA MARTIN

IN the past year, Clear Creek schools began using a compulsory computer
system for children's lunch money. Each student is
issued a personal identification number. If they wish to buy lunch at
school, they first must deposit their money in their PIN account.
Little explanation was given by the school district, and the new PIN
system was announced without offering parents an option to
continue to use cash anonymously alongside the PIN system.

This constitutes a serious invasion of privacy by the schools and a loss
of our children's rights to use cash.

Sharon Amabile

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May 6, 2002, 3:02:17 PM5/6/02
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That is one way of looking at it. But as a parent of a child in CCISD, I
see it as a way to make sure the child actually gets decent food for lunch.
I can at the drop of a hat, call his school and find out what he has done
with his money sent up for school lunches....did he get salad? did he get
salisbury steak? or did he get pizza and french fries? This may sound
picky, but it helps if the child is on a special diet (Kosher or diabetic,
for instance) as the parent can use the ticket to be programmed to disallow
the purchase of certain foods. It could also help if the child has been
hitting the junk line too frequently. Mom or Dad can not allow junior to go
through the fast food line and force him to get meatloaf and green beans
with a side of salad. You might not like it, but I think it is a good idea.

--
Sharon Amabile
Wife, mother, perpetual student and frequent volunteer

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Strong Eagle

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May 6, 2002, 3:52:36 PM5/6/02
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You miss the point. Under a voluntary program you could still monitor your
child's eating activities while others who disagree with the program could use
cash. It is not the program itself that is bad, it is the fact that it is
shoved down everyone's throat. Besides, are you planning on monitoring your
children 24 hours per day, every last thing they do? I can guarantee that you
will raise a much worse off adult that raising a child with freedom, including
the freedom to eat crappy food once in a while.

Not Me

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May 6, 2002, 4:32:41 PM5/6/02
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There is no right to use cash. A provider of a service can require you
to pay in any manner he desires. In some ways this is a good program -
the kids don't have to carry money to school, the school doesn't have
to bond as many cashiers, etc.

Tracey

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May 6, 2002, 5:45:38 PM5/6/02
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Monitor my child's eating activities? Is that like someone is going to rush up and
take away all those chips and fries? Id slap the pure dog crap out of any
government nutball that tried! What a bunch of food nazis!

Why don't schools serve good food for kids anymore? Because the government workers
are taking the money in the form of pay increases. All the talk about
"education", but lets feed the kids pure junk and keep the money for ourselves!

Me

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May 6, 2002, 7:51:36 PM5/6/02
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Thers A Letter to the editor in todays Chron.on this subject..Quite
interesting...

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Adam Weiss

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May 6, 2002, 9:31:32 PM5/6/02
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Tracey wrote:

This sort of system is already in place at many universities. Send your
kid to Rice, and if they live on campus they will be -required- to buy
into the school's meal plan. Actually I think they require it for
undergrads who live off campus, too - Courreges could tell you for sure.

Don't misunderstand me. Public schools should become more like
universities, but of all the things to copy, meal plans have got to be
one of the worst.

--

Adam Weiss

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"No my friend. It's a crazy cocktail of Franz Kafka and Mark Twain"

Sharon Amabile

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May 6, 2002, 9:36:18 PM5/6/02
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Although I suppose I should be thankful for your suggestions, I am not a
novice at raising children. I have been a parent for closing in on a
quarter century. No, you cannot monitor your children 24 hours a day, but
watching their diet is a good idea. Good nutrition as a young person means
a longer, healthier adulthood

--
Sharon Amabile
Wife, mother, perpetual student and frequent volunteer

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Sharon Amabile

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May 6, 2002, 9:37:38 PM5/6/02
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Oh and by the way, I sent my son to school with cash on Friday.

nunya

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May 7, 2002, 2:33:15 PM5/7/02
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Well, I havent been out of school long (im only 25), and I was damn good at
undermining and getting around goofy school policies such as this.. a kid
can easily purchase a "good wholesome meal" and trade it for some junk food,
or slip someone some cash to get them what they want using their PIN.. so
the monitoring part can be very flawed.. the school could report little
johnny munching on celery sticks every day, when he could be trading those
celery sticks to little timmy for a candy bar or whatever, or he could be
sliding little timmy a dollar for the candy bar.. :) or if he is
unrestricted on what he can buy, he could buy some doritos and a coke to
trade his friend for a joint, so instead clinching the "lunch money for
drugs" thing, they could force it to bartering, oh pity..

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Steve Cutchen

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May 7, 2002, 10:52:06 PM5/7/02
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I'm pissed because my child can't barter with the lunch lady for his lunch.
He has to become a member of the government-enforced "paper money"
conspiracy. That erodes his personal freedoms.

We also want to end the whole grading fiasco, a government connivance to
somehow "rate" my child and demean his self-worth. Talk about shoved down
throats? If you don't do "their" homework, they won't pass you!

And lets not even GO into the whole "library" thing... where they log
EVERY book you check out of the library... Who the hell are THEY to keep
records on what my child reads?

President's Physical Fitness Award... Who sets THOSE standards? Who are
THEY to judge?

Four words: Every class... assigned seats.

Bunch of commies...

---Steve
CCISD Parent

Jim Riley

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May 8, 2002, 10:17:01 AM5/8/02
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>Tracey wrote:

>> IN the past year, Clear Creek schools began using a compulsory computer
>> system for children's lunch money. Each student is
>> issued a personal identification number. If they wish to buy lunch at
>> school, they first must deposit their money in their PIN account.
>> Little explanation was given by the school district, and the new PIN
>> system was announced without offering parents an option to
>> continue to use cash anonymously alongside the PIN system.

It sounds like a way to be able to handle kids on the free lunch
program without having to have a card that identifies them as being
poor.

--
Jim Riley

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