Re: Congress readies broad new digital copyright bill
LarryG
>
> God damn Bush can work real hard taking away our civil liberties, spying
> on
> us, passing horrible industry driven bankruptcy new laws and DCMA and
> copywrite laws, but he just can't clean up the environment, keep gas
> prices
> down, help middle class people, win in Iraq, find Osama nor anything
> else.
>
> But boy! Can Bush get stuff the screws the average person over and
> rewards
> big donaters and PACs passed easily!
>
> http://news.com.com/Congress%20readies%20new%20digital%20copyright%
> 20bill/2100-1028_3-6064016.html?tag=nefd.top
So, you still think its the wetbacks who are destroying America?
Cheers,
Larry G.
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Calling Austin HOME since 1982!
Cuz
|| God damn Bush can work real hard taking away our civil
|| liberties, spying on us, passing horrible industry driven
|| bankruptcy new laws and DCMA and copywrite laws, but he just
|| can't clean up the environment, keep gas prices down, help
|| middle class people, win in Iraq, find Osama nor anything
|| else.
||
|| But boy! Can Bush get stuff the screws the average person
|| over and rewards big donaters and PACs passed easily!
||
||
http://news.com.com/Congress%20readies%20new%20digital%20copyright%
|| 20bill/2100-1028_3-6064016.html?tag=nefd.top
|| b{-_-}d
||
|| I'm listening!
||
|| ---Mapanari---
Osama's hidding in Detroit...
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- HAL9000
- hence all the really great 60s 70s 80s music (then came rap which
ended popular music). The recording industry isn't going down without
a struggle even though the writing is on the wall. They simply can't
make as much money as they used to.
Technology gave them an overly lucrative rewards method (vinyl copies)
and now it is taking it away (Internet distribution). I would guess
that they, the recording industry, will be able sustain themselves by
way of "advertising" as the radio and television industries do today.
Albeit, making a lot less money.
Can't blame them for trying to hold on using legal remedies. It won't
stop the inevitable though...
Their may be some innocent bystanders that get clobbered with this
legislation but it is clearly focused on protecting the RIAA. LOL,
they may need to say that explicitly in the legislation. "This is to
protect the economic liberties of the RIAA only" ! ! Since that won't
happen, LOL, I'm against this legislation as it was explained to me in
the article.
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:08:30 -0000, Mapanari <The_...@anonmail.com>
wrote:
>20bill/2100-1028_3-6064016.html?tag=nefd.top
Jon A
How many of you ass holes have the silly "W" sticker still on your
car? Shows you're as much of an idiot as "W".
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:08:30 -0000, Mapanari <The_...@anonmail.com>
wrote:
>
Blobby....@mestizo.fat.bodies.net
news:Xns97B1ED2...@216.168.3.64:
> Obviuosly you don't understand a simple fact that in most elections, we
> only pick the lesser of two weavils.
Unless your choice is typed in, which will be hard, since the voting
machines are designed to reject the process, until you enter it several
times (how clever), to discourage such voting.
> Considering the alternative, I'd rather have a dumbass right wing xtian
> incompetant fanatic than another socialist democrat.
Junior Bu$h Baby pays -lip service- to everything that "troubles him"
(lol), whilst actually caring little for anything, except what benefits
his personal bank account.
An example is {one man <-> one woman} *NO QUEERS*, now the -forgotten-
issue, quietly swept under the Junior Baby Bu$h carpet, never to be
mentioned again by him.
Case closed.
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Chris Pando
Mapanari wrote:
>> Then a nice avian mutated flu and walla! Paradise in America, again.
walla is not a word. You mean voilà.
ObSheesh: Sheesh
Chris
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Mike Smith
>In article <b%24g.36689$ZB1....@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
>God Bless Texas <no....@nospam.com> wrote:
>>Mapanari wrote:
>>
>>> Son, there are a lot of things destroying America, and here is my list:
>>>
>>> 1. Liberals
>>
>>> 4. Entitlement welfare state
>>
>>See #1.
>
>Corporate entitlement programs cost more than the social
>welfare programs, IIRC. You may want to add this to your list.
Are you this stupid? There are NO corporate entitlement programs.
Corporations do NOT pay taxes, their customers do. All the taxes
imposed on corporations are hidden taxes that we all pay. My best
example is the typical gallon of milk. Guess what corporate taxes are
rolled into the cost of that milk?
Try these:
Rancher
Transportation company
Milk processor
Transportation company
Wholesaler
Transportation company
Retailer
For the plastic gallon container for the milk, there is also:
Oil company
Transportation company
Refiner
Transportation company
Manufacturer
Transportation company
wholesaler
Transportation company to the milk processor company
That's a whole lot of hidden local, state, and federal taxes rolled
into that gallon of milk! Is there any wonder why China can
manufacture our electronics and textiles cheaper than we can?
If you have 8 kids and $200 a week to feed them, you still pay all of
those taxes. If you are Bill Gates, you still pay those taxes.
Companies never pay taxes, their customers pay them.
Wake up, dude.
Mike Smith
Suburbanaristic
"Chris Pando" <chris...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mapanari wrote:
> >> Then a nice avian mutated flu and walla! Paradise in America, again.
>
> walla is not a word. You mean voilà.
It is a variation on pronunciation, had he spelled it better for the
phonetics-oriented, it would have been "vwal-la".
In Espanol, it is "su es pendejo".
See also: anal.
Suburbanaristic
Mapanari <The_...@anonmail.com> wrote:
> Suburbanaristic <yeah_...@wohoo.com> wrotenews:yeah_uh-hu-
> 614F57.201...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
> He must be gnu to the net. 4 give he.
Gnumatics and emoticons, some things Matter, or natter, or neither, not,
depending. The Samoan dictionary is online, and I think you just got yet
another TOS.
Mike Smith
wrote:
>Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrotenews:tii252l8qiji2t2ohrjn2n9enc515lsf0v@
>4ax.com:
>Are you insane? Of corporations pay taxes! They pay lots of taxes.
>
>Not as much as they used to....in the 60's corps paid about 70% of the
>taxes recieved for the national budget.
>Now they only pay about 20%.
>
>The diference was made up by corrupt liberals in conjunction with wiley
>republican evil fuckers who used liberals like a whore uses a wet rag on
>her pussy after a train.
>The difernce is made up by the middle class.
>
>The only class of people who pay less taxes in the last 30 years, are
>corporation and the poor and lower middle class.
>In fact the poorest not only do not pay taxes, they get much more in
>return!
>In fact, many corps not only do not pay taxes, they get millions in
>subsidies.
>
>But all in all, corps pay approx 20% of the taxes, and it's declining, with
>the American middle class, all lathered up with gaping red well-used
>assholes, bending over as usual, ready to take it up the ass after each
>election when people like Perry raise taxes, fees and surcharges and steal
>public roads and turn them into private for profit toll roads.
Wake up dude... Those taxes are passed on to the consumers. It is a
huge hidden tax on everything we buy. Corporations pay the tax, but
they roll it's cost into the products they sell. We pay them when we
buy anything, including milk, bread, the shirt on your back, etc.
This is basic stuff, Mapi... put the bottle down, you've had enough.
Mike Smith
Mike Smith
wrote:
>Mike Smith <m...@wt.net>
>wrotenews:n20352l3mkrovn5c0...@4ax.com:
>
>...
>>>But all in all, corps pay approx 20% of the taxes, and it's declining,
>>>with the American middle class, all lathered up with gaping red
>>>well-used assholes, bending over as usual, ready to take it up the ass
>>>after each election when people like Perry raise taxes, fees and
>>>surcharges and steal public roads and turn them into private for profit
>>>toll roads.
>>
>> Wake up dude... Those taxes are passed on to the consumers. It is a
>> huge hidden tax on everything we buy. Corporations pay the tax, but
>> they roll it's cost into the products they sell. We pay them when we
>> buy anything, including milk, bread, the shirt on your back, etc.
>>
>> This is basic stuff, Mapi... put the bottle down, you've had enough.
>>
>> Mike Smith
>>
>
>No tax is "passed on to consumers". You need to learn more about how
>business really works.
Bullshit. All costs associated with anything is passed on to the
customers., including what they pay in taxes.
>
>It's all bottom line. Taxes are just another cost of doing business, just
>like light bulbs, payoffs for scam sexual harrasment and discrimination
>suits, infrastructure, borrowing money and interest payments, employees and
>more.
>
>Your ranting about taxes is like saying "Oh oh oh! The dirty corporations
>are passing along the cost of light bulbs in their offices to us!".
Right and taxes on businesses drive up the cost of goods and services,
while hiding the additional tax bite we all get. It's an easy way for
politicians to get more of our money to spend on their pet vote-buying
projects, without our realizing they are sticking it to us, and not
"the evil corporations".
Mike Smith
Mike Smith
wrote:
>Mike Smith <m...@wt.net>
>wrotenews:n20352l3mkrovn5c0...@4ax.com:
>
>...
>>>But all in all, corps pay approx 20% of the taxes, and it's declining,
>>>with the American middle class, all lathered up with gaping red
>>>well-used assholes, bending over as usual, ready to take it up the ass
>>>after each election when people like Perry raise taxes, fees and
>>>surcharges and steal public roads and turn them into private for profit
>>>toll roads.
>>
>> Wake up dude... Those taxes are passed on to the consumers. It is a
>> huge hidden tax on everything we buy. Corporations pay the tax, but
>> they roll it's cost into the products they sell. We pay them when we
>> buy anything, including milk, bread, the shirt on your back, etc.
>>
>> This is basic stuff, Mapi... put the bottle down, you've had enough.
>>
>> Mike Smith
>>
>
>No tax is "passed on to consumers". You need to learn more about how
>business really works.
>
>It's all bottom line. Taxes are just another cost of doing business, just
>like light bulbs, payoffs for scam sexual harrasment and discrimination
>suits, infrastructure, borrowing money and interest payments, employees and
>more.
>
>Your ranting about taxes is like saying "Oh oh oh! The dirty corporations
>are passing along the cost of light bulbs in their offices to us!".
And another thing.
If a widget costs $4 in material, $1 in transportation costs, $3 in
labor and $2 in taxes, but the market would only allow a $9 cost for
that widget, do ya think the company would product the widget?
Or would the company ship the production overseas, where the material
and labor costs are a total of $3, transportation is $2, and they have
no associated taxes rolled into the production costs? Then, they sell
the widget for $8 and smoke their competition.
Basic manufacturing 101...
Mike Smith
the wharf rat
Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
>
>Bullshit. All costs associated with anything is passed on to the
>customers., including what they pay in taxes.
Not necessarily. It's entirely possible to be in a a position
where raising your prices for any reason will reduce your profits. It's
called an elastic demand curve.
the wharf rat
Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
>
>If a widget costs $4 in material, $1 in transportation costs, $3 in
>labor and $2 in taxes, but the market would only allow a $9 cost for
>that widget, do ya think the company would product the widget?
>
Depends. Can they sell widget ink cartridges for $35 each? :-)
the wharf rat
Mapanari <The_...@anonmail.com> wrote:
>
>It's all very simple, and not at all complicated.
>
>cost of goods minus selling price = profit.
>
Accounting is simple. Economics is not :-)
A classic example is movie tickets. The demand for movie
tickets is very elastic, so raising prices even by a small amount
can drastically reduce your profit (NOT your margin, that's what
you're talking about). Interestingly enough, lowering your prices
can actually *raise* profits.
the wharf rat
Mapanari <The_...@anonmail.com> wrote:
>Mapi's insanly simple formula for Economics 1A
>
>"Sellng price minus cost of goods equals profit.".
That's accounting, not economics.
Chris Pando
Mapanari wrote:
> "Chris Pando" <chris...@gmail.com> wrotenews:1146167606.486162.42200
> @v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:
>
You seem to be very proud of your illiteracy; you certainly enjoy
showing it off.
Chris
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Chris Pando
Suburbanaristic wrote:
> In article <1146167606....@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
> "Chris Pando" <chris...@gmail.com> wrote:
... illiterate thrashings deleted ...
> > walla is not a word. You mean voilà.
>
> It is a variation on pronunciation, had he spelled it better for the
> phonetics-oriented, it would have been "vwal-la".
>
Phonetics are for the weak; the strong know how to spell.
> In Espanol, it is "su es pendejo".
Y su es un maricon.
>
> See also: anal.
>
What'd ya know; a rump ranger
Chris
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Chris Pando
Mapanari wrote:
>
... snip ...
> >
> > You seem to be very proud of your illiteracy; you certainly enjoy
> > showing it off.
> >
> > Chris
> > --
> >
> >
>
> pendeco.
>
Gosh, you can't spell in Spanish, either. Does that make you
bi-ignorant?
Chris
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