Does anyone remember what the fads were in Houston back then? The
food ones especially.
I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons and the
cheap ones where the students went. I do remember Western Sizzling
(Sizzler?) for steaks and the first salad bar I ever experienced but
don't know when it arrived in Houston. I didn't get there until 76
and the time period I'm writing about is 70-74.
Thanks,
Jeanne
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Strawberry Patch,
Mason Jar,
Black Angus,
Blackeye pea,
Trader Vic's,
Harry's,
Victoria Station,
The Rail Head,
never ate at the first two but most everybody I knew at the time had eaten
there.. The whole crew I worked with use to go to the Black Angus right
after work and drink till the wifes got there to eat. Trader Vics had some
really interesting drinks if you liked rum, Victoria Station had all the
ribs you could eat and a not bad prime rib. I preferred the prime rib at
Rail head. The Stables on Main was a good place to eat,never did get around
to making the Red Lion next door.. There use to be a pizza joint on Weslayan
just south of 59 that made a bar-b-qued pizza I liked, think it was
Stuckey's but was a lot of brain cells ago.. can't remember the name of the
mexican food place on Almeda wonder if it is still there.. Giado's on South
Main, Kaphan's on South Main at OST.. not sure I spelled that one right..
Use to eat at a Mexican food place on Washington or Studemont that was small
and interesting, they didn't speak English, I didn't speak Spanish, and the
menu was only in Spanish, I usually had somebody in the group who could
translate for me.. Or I would just point and say I will try whatever this
one is..
There was another Mexican food place on Fondren everybody liked but I felt
like it was in line with other fast food places..
One group I worked with liked volume food and we had to hit Pancho's for
lunch, tried to avoid that one when possible, then they discovered Loe's on
Shepard. Better food and enough to more then fill you up..
Eating in was a lot more popular then: esp. casseroles.
A lot came out of a can: Hamburger Helper, Campbell's soups, Spaghetti
O's... Chef Boy-ar-dee was very big.
>
> I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
> expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons and the
> cheap ones where the students went. I do remember Western Sizzling
> (Sizzler?) for steaks and the first salad bar I ever experienced but
> don't know when it arrived in Houston. I didn't get there until 76
> and the time period I'm writing about is 70-74.
I would have thought that locally owned Texas roadhouses, ice houses,
BBQ shacks, and taquerias still would have been much bigger in Houston
back then. If it were my story, probably that's the prop I'd use. More
colorful than today's big bland corporate chains with big bland food.
Randy
Sonny Looks
Pier 21
Steak and Ale
> I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
> expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons
Tony's, then and now.
> and the cheap ones where the students went.
Across the Street on Hilcroft, where you'd order via a telephone to the
kitchen at your booth.
Prince's Hamburgers a drive-in
Alfred's a deli with a kosher/ethnic food store in the front that you'd
walk through to be seated.
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Alfred's was a wonderful place, great roasted chicken and the best
Borsch I ever had.
Place in the Village was jam packed night and day, don't know why it
failed, place on Stella Link was in a declining area, I can't see what
happened there.
Ain't no meat on dem bones.
Downtown, Sam's Deli at the Epperson Building, and Charlie's # 2 Bar-B-Q on
Fannin. I'm not sure if Massa's was downtown at that time, but believe so.
Fast food, was Prince's, the Pig Stand, Der Weinersnitzel, Kentucky Fried
Chicken. Ferrel's Ice Cream Parlors, NW Mall and other places. Mexican
chains were Monterrey House and El Chico's. Spanish Flower was around,
Triple A Restaurant at the Farmer's Market on Airline had been around for
years. Same for Sam's Bar-B-Q further up on Airline. Confederate House on
the near west side.
I notice a Wyatt's still listed in Pasadena , but I don't believe it.
Pipe Organ Pizza Parlor at Memorial City Mall (or was in Town and Country
Center?)
Becky
Proving there's a culinary equivalent of "train wreck syndrome" (i.e.,
you just can't look away from a train wreck), I've been curious about
the "Steak Kountry Buffet" across from the Ikea on I-10 for a while, but
I haven't quite mustered up the intestinal fortitude to give it a try.
Dave
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Also Allbritton's Cafeteria on Waugh - they'd been around for years, and
stuck it out until the early 1990s or thereabouts. While reading the
obits over breakfast recently, I noticed that Luther Allbritton had just
passed away:
Dave
I'd settle for someplace to get sirloin tips with mushroom gravy.
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The Stables was an expensive place, right? I need to know the
difference before I have my characters go there. Was Vargos around
back then?
Gallaghers had a great prime rib too.
Jeanne
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wrote:
>myst...@cox-internet.com wrote:
>
>> I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
>> expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons
>
>Tony's, then and now.
What is Tony's famous for? Anything in particular? I can't remember
where it is.
>
>> and the cheap ones where the students went.
>
>Across the Street on Hilcroft, where you'd order via a telephone to the
>kitchen at your booth.
>
>Prince's Hamburgers a drive-in
Boy, memories... The last Prince's was over near UH Main campus,
right at the underpass. Used to see it every day as I drove home. I
don't remember the one on Hillcroft, but I didn't have a car when I
first got there. Live on or near Hillcroft 3 times during the 20
years I was there.
>
>Alfred's a deli with a kosher/ethnic food store in the front that you'd
>walk through to be seated.
Oh, Alfred's! Yum! I had the best pate at the one on... gads I
forget. Shephard? Not the one on Westheimer. They had (have?) a ton
of veggie salads. It was still in operation when I left Houston,
although highly remodled. Wonder if it's still there and as good.
Was the Hobbit Hole there in 71? It seemed interesting but I just
couldn't get into avacado and sprout sandwiches. Blech!
Jeanne
That reminds me. Does anyone remember that gigantic organ they
brought over from somewhere in Europe and installed in the food court
at Sharpstown Mall? Now that was something. Guess the hoi paloi
didn't appreciate it though as it didn't last.
Jeanne
They have apparently tried to expand. They've been saying they're
going to build one here in the central La. town where I am now for
several years. Even have the sign up on the empty lot.
Jeanne
Jamail's. But the store was on Kirby.
--Kelly Younger
The steam table on Waugh gave way to American General. There was one on
Weslayan and Alabama, I believe, that my parents took me to as a kid.
God, I loved their blueberry muffins. But that's about all I remember
about the place. Except for the stench of the fried liver.
--
--Kelly Younger
I fondly remember the Romano's on I-45 near Monroe exit. We ate there
frequently. The food was delicious, and remained so early in the Luby's
switchover, but has fallen so off in recent years that we hardly even try it
anymore, at least not the few Luby's near us in Clear Lake.
>myst...@cox-internet.com wrote:
>>
>> That reminds me, what was the name of the grocery store the rich folks
>> went to? There was one on Shephard. It was someone's name (not
>> Randalls) and had all the exotic expensive stuff for the River Oaks
>
Great. Thanks!
Jeanne
A friend of ours worked at Houlihan's Old Place in the mid-70s (Was it a
chain? Not sure.) and said all the Houston big-wig lawyers used to come in.
She said it was nothing for them to drop a $100 tip for a drink or two.
While I was looking up Houlihan's, I came across this thread at egullet---
maybe this will help you out.
http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?showtopic=53242
Was the Greek place down by the ship channel open then? What was the name
of that place?
If you have a family with young children in your novel, they most certainly
will want to go to Farrell's Ice Cream Parlour in the Galleria for their
birthday. I sure did. :-) I'm almost positive it was Farrell's that got
in trouble for selling/sharing kid's birthday info to the government.
(Don't quote me, though.) It seems a family got a notice that their son had
failed to register for the Selective Service. The son noticed that the
person in question was a name he had made up while at Farrell's with some
buddies to put on the "free ice cream on your birthday" card. Some other
people came forward with similar stories, that their children had put in
names of their dogs and cartoon characters, etc, and all were getting
notices that they were in violation of Selective Service policy.
It may not be Farrell's, but I remember vividly when I heard the story years
ago that it was a place I had been as a child.
There was a restaurant in a highrise downtown that was known as a
hang-out for people in the oil and gas business in at least the mid- to
late 70's. Also, Harry's Cafeteria on Bagby at Tuam (old house
converted into cafeteria style restaurant) was popular with the real
estate crowd. And there was a Chinese restaurant about 5 blocks east
of Main that was a popular place for lunch. Don't know if it's still
around, doubt it. It was not in the Chinatown area further east of
downtown.
And in Highland Village, there was a New Orleans' style restaurant at
the corner of Westheimer and the rr tracks. It was the place where I
first had shrimp scampi (that was so good). Also, don't forget
Nielsen's Delicatessen was at its original location in Highland Village
then, I believe on Mid Lane just north of Westheimer in the ground
floor of a two story office building next to or near Wagner's Hardware.
And I don't think anyone has mentioned it in this thread, but there was
a chain of restaurants that were best known for serving roasted peanuts
that the shells were thrown on the floor :-) I know this has been
mentioned in the thread(s) called "restaurants of yore" quite awhile
ago. That might also be a good place to chase down names/locations of
restaurants in Houston's past. Also, fwiw, iirc the Houston Public
Library has old editions of the telephone directories dating to that
time.
Good luck,
John
Yeah can remember going to that Greek place on the channel back in the
late 60's, it was a good place, can't remember the name either, is it
gone?
>Dave
It is almost exclusively an Hispanic clientele.... huge families and
lots of kids. Very loud and crowded and lot's of food, mostly Mexican
offerings. The two beef choices were a very well done serve-yourself
steak (round steak, I believe... pretty tough and dry) and a roast that
they carve from is also VERY well done. Did I say lot's of kids? I
watched a kid with his mouth open under the soft serve ice cream
machine just letting it come out directly into his mouth.
Have fun.
Jack
Bill
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Jack
My family in Houston goes back to the 1910's, but I didn't get here
until 1971.
Some I remember back then were Cellar Door on I-10 and Bellaire at
Wesleyan. Also Pier 21 @ 7000 Fannin when a family friend, George
Dentler owned it. Kaphan's on S. Main near S. Braeswood. Christie's
on S. Main. Bill William's on S. Main. Red Lion on S. Main. Part of
Red Lion family now owns Mucky Duck. And Green Parrot on Memorial near
Dairy Ashford.
More later, good luck with your project.
A.C in Houston
Jack
Jack
>
> That reminds me, what was the name of the grocery store the rich folks
> went to? There was one on Shephard. It was someone's name (not
> Randalls) and had all the exotic expensive stuff for the River Oaks
> crowd. The father in this family is in politics. I don't know what
> yet.
Sounds like Jamail's. My then 95-year-old great aunt loved to shop
there. She'd ask the stock boys where something was, and they'd rush
off to get it for her; she'd have 3 or 4 of them running at any time.
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> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 01:08:31 GMT, "Albert Nurick" <alb...@nurick.com>
> wrote:
>
> > myst...@cox-internet.com wrote:
> >
> >> I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
> >> expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons
> >
> > Tony's, then and now.
>
> What is Tony's famous for? Anything in particular? I can't remember
> where it is.
Tony Vallone (the proprietor of Tony's) introduced true fine dining to
the Houston area, and his establishment became the hangout of the rich
and powerful. Maxine Messenger, the gossip columnist at the Chronicle,
held court there, and her column was peppered with who was at Tony's on
a given night.
(If you're researching for a book, you could do worse than to ask Jack
Tyler here for help; he's an expert on the restaurant scene.)
> > Prince's Hamburgers a drive-in
>
> Boy, memories... The last Prince's was over near UH Main campus,
> right at the underpass. Used to see it every day as I drove home. I
> don't remember the one on Hillcroft, but I didn't have a car when I
> first got there. Live on or near Hillcroft 3 times during the 20
> years I was there.
I grew up in Meyerland, and lived near Hillcroft and Braeswood in the
60's and 70's.
> > Alfred's a deli with a kosher/ethnic food store in the front that
> > you'd walk through to be seated.
>
> Oh, Alfred's! Yum! I had the best pate at the one on... gads I
> forget. Shephard? Not the one on Westheimer. They had (have?) a ton
> of veggie salads. It was still in operation when I left Houston,
> although highly remodled. Wonder if it's still there and as good.
Alfred's is gone, unfortunately. And greatly missed.
> Was the Hobbit Hole there in 71? It seemed interesting but I just
> couldn't get into avacado and sprout sandwiches. Blech!
Agreed. I don't understand the Hobbit Hole's survival. Truly mediocre
food and indifferent service.
> Speaking of Cafeterias, I remember Romano's line here is Houston in
> the 70's, it was a strange deal since there were other Cafeteria
> chains here in Houston in the 60's, and Romano's seem to come out of
> nowhere, they were very popular, jam packed, ..., I never knew why!,
> since seemed to me their fare , which was good, was no more special
> than others like them.
> Sold out to Luby's , maybe a good move, ...., are cafeterias in
> decline? Seem to cater to seniors, of which I am one, but I don't go
> to any , or very seldom.
We used to frequent Romano's on Bellaire when I was a kid; once it was
bought by Luby's, it wasn't the same.
I'm so glad I discovered the Cleburne Cafeteria; it's a whole different
level of food.
I've heard it is dreadful, and makes Golden Corral look like fine
dining.
> Thanks so much. I ate at the Mason Jar many many times. They had
> (are they still there?) the best baked potato soup.
> A group of us would go to the Blackeyed Pea and get salad and rolls.
> Yummy fresh yeast rolls. Ach! I'm making myself hungry.
>
> The Stables was an expensive place, right?
I'd describe it as an upper-moderate steakhouse.
> I need to know the difference before I have my characters go there.
> Was Vargos around back then?
Yep. People went for the atmosphere on the grounds, with the strolling
peacocks. Food was never the point at Vargo's.
If you want a really cool setting, consider Los Troncos. It was a
restaurant built into a gigantic old tree, and many locals called it
the Treehouse. Winding passages between tables, each of which was in
its own little wooden room. A perfect spot for intrigue.
I was a kid when I went with my parents; perhaps Jack or someone else
could give you more details.
Another unique spot is Spindletop, the rotating restaurant atop the
Hyatt Regency downtown. When it was built in the 70's, it had an
amazing view, and was quite the hotspot for a while. It's near the big
oil buildings.
The Petroleum Club is another oil bigwig spot; it's a private club
downtown.
The Old Capital Club was located in the Rice Hotel; a private club
frequented primarily by lawyers and judges. Highback red-leather
banquettes, private lockers for member's booze behind the bar, and no
women allowed.
> And I don't think anyone has mentioned it in this thread, but there
> was a chain of restaurants that were best known for serving roasted
> peanuts that the shells were thrown on the floor :-) I know this has
> been mentioned in the thread(s) called "restaurants of yore" quite
> awhile ago.
Ruby Red's?
I also just remembered another unique Houston place: The San Jacinto
Inn, the big family-style restaurant in the shadow of the Battleship
Texas and the San Jacinto Monument.
You'd walk across a crushed oyster-shell parking area, climb the
stairs, and enter a huge barnlike space, with dozens of tables.
White-jacketed waiters would serve family-style seafood to hungry
Houstonians who made the drive. Boiled shrimp (peeled in advance in
those days), either cold boiled crab or oysters on the half-shell
(depending on season) followed by fried fish and fried chicken.
Big, loud place; reasonably expensive.
Definitely Jamail's. I used to shop there when we lived near the
intersection of Shepherd and Westheimer (on Huldy). It was a few doors down
from the now long-gone Battelstein's.
We only had one car so I walked to Jamail's to buy groceries and had them
delivered. Great fun for a semi-poverty stricken 21 year-old... shopping
among all the River Oaks maids!
Chris in Pearland
Jack
Jack
That's actually relatively recently. Certainly not early enough to
qualify the ladies for DTR.
.
> The point to this story must be that Spanish Village, on Almeda, was a
> favorite haunt of ours for Mexican food in the late 60's and early
> 70's, as it had a private club upstairs which served mixed drinks.
Larry Pico's Spanish Village, in those days. In the early 70's it was
the only Mexican restaurant in town that realized that chile
relleno is *not* a bell pepper stuffed with beef and rice. It is the
only place in town I will order a margarita, and a favorite of my
wife's and mine during our courting days.
Chris
--
>That's actually relatively recently. Certainly not early enough to
>qualify the ladies for DTR.
>Chris
You're right... but Houston was only 34 years old then. I guess word
got around Canada that there was a new town down in Texas. I have no
idea what would have caused someone to move down here from there at
that time (or now).
Jack
Jack
Art Wren's??? Next you're going to mention Simpson's Diner!
--
--Kelly Younger
Same clientele.
Jack
If I had all the money I spent at Spanish Village, Leo's and Phil's,
well I'd be happily retired by now. Ah for the good old days of loose
women, pot, booze and having leftover money when you're making $8 an
hour....
--Kelly Younger
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>> I'm working on a story set in Houston during the early 70s (well, one
>> segment is during that time period) and as I have no time sense at all
>> I can't remember what we ate or where.
>> Does anyone remember what the fads were in Houston back then? The
>> food ones especially.
>> I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
>> expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons and the
>> cheap ones where the students went. I do remember Western Sizzling
>> (Sizzler?) for steaks and the first salad bar I ever experienced but
>> don't know when it arrived in Houston. I didn't get there until 76
>> and the time period I'm writing about is 70-74.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeanne
>> mystkitty removethis @cox-internet.com
>Pipe Organ Pizza Parlor at Memorial City Mall (or was in Town and Country
>Center?)
It had to be Memorial City...only pizza place in the old pre-T&C Mall days was
Panjo's, over on the West Belt just north of Memorial. (At least that I
remember. :-)
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>On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:03:04 GMT, "Julia Dream"
><pink...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>Pipe Organ Pizza Parlor at Memorial City Mall (or was in Town and Country
>>Center?)
>>
>>Becky
>That reminds me. Does anyone remember that gigantic organ they
>brought over from somewhere in Europe and installed in the food court
>at Sharpstown Mall? Now that was something. Guess the hoi paloi
>didn't appreciate it though as it didn't last.
>
>Jeanne
They saw what was coming...the old Good Time Charley's in the late '70s is now
a shell of its former self. (Dale and I were going to get our annual
Christmas Cinnabons there, and discovered that Cinnabon bailed out of
Sharpstown a month or two before. It's like watching Westwood Mall die near
the turn of the century.)
Are you thinking of Athens? I was over there a time or two in the '70s (or
'80s - in any case, it's been a while)...
> myst...@cox-internet.com writes:
>
> > On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:03:04 GMT, "Julia Dream"
> ><pink...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > > Pipe Organ Pizza Parlor at Memorial City Mall (or was in Town and
> > > Country Center?)
> > >
> > > Becky
>
> > That reminds me. Does anyone remember that gigantic organ they
> > brought over from somewhere in Europe and installed in the food
> > court at Sharpstown Mall? Now that was something. Guess the hoi
> > paloi didn't appreciate it though as it didn't last.
> >
> > Jeanne
>
> They saw what was coming...the old Good Time Charley's in the late
> '70s is now a shell of its former self. (Dale and I were going to
> get our annual Christmas Cinnabons there, and discovered that
> Cinnabon bailed out of Sharpstown a month or two before. It's like
> watching Westwood Mall die near the turn of the century.)
I visited Sharpstown a couple of years ago, and was depressed. Lots of
no-name schlock peddlers, and the typical mall stores seemed to be
making an exodus. I see no reason to return.
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>The Chief Instigator wrote:
>> myst...@cox-internet.com writes:
>> > On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:03:04 GMT, "Julia Dream"
>> ><pink...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> > > Pipe Organ Pizza Parlor at Memorial City Mall (or was in Town and
>> > > Country Center?)
>> > >
>> > > Becky
>> > That reminds me. Does anyone remember that gigantic organ they
>> > brought over from somewhere in Europe and installed in the food
>> > court at Sharpstown Mall? Now that was something. Guess the hoi
>> > paloi didn't appreciate it though as it didn't last.
>> >
>> > Jeanne
>> They saw what was coming...the old Good Time Charley's in the late
>> '70s is now a shell of its former self. (Dale and I were going to
>> get our annual Christmas Cinnabons there, and discovered that
>> Cinnabon bailed out of Sharpstown a month or two before. It's like
>> watching Westwood Mall die near the turn of the century.)
>I visited Sharpstown a couple of years ago, and was depressed. Lots of
>no-name schlock peddlers, and the typical mall stores seemed to be
>making an exodus. I see no reason to return.
The only mystery left (besides the schizophrenic paint job being done on
random sections of the mall exterior, and why it's being done) is when Foley's
announces they'll be sending their best staff from the Sharpstown store to the
Galleria, and shut down the former...after which, the mall's lifetime can be
measured in weeks, if that long.
Yeah I remember the Cellar Door at Bellaire and Wesleyan, a BBQ place
and quite good, seemed packed all the time, another mysterious eatery
failure.
>
> You're right... but Houston was only 34 years old then.
An awful lot happened in those 34 years. From Mexico to Republic
to State to rebellion and back to State. Four of the Six Flags.
... snip ...
> I have no idea what would have caused someone to move down here
>from there at that time (or now).
The word usually used to refer to those that showed up immediately
_post bellum_ is carbetbagger.
Anyone moving down here now is surely doing it for the Margaritas.
Chris
--
Keep it that way your not missing a thing, other then the rolls are good
when they are hot. I think they must bring out little pieces of steak about
one every hour and not much then. Chicken, chicken and more chicken is what
they have along with a salad bar, and remember there being ribs and sausage
sometimes. Use to work evenings around the corner from this place and tried
it a second time to make sure it didn't improve.. Wasn't terrible but wasn't
great either..
Always wanted to try Pier 21..
back in the early 70's I worked down town and ate at Tamborello's on Main
street at least once a week. Got the hot Itilian poorboy, but they were not
as good after that one lady retired..
> The only mystery left (besides the schizophrenic paint job being done
> on random sections of the mall exterior, and why it's being done) is
> when Foley's announces they'll be sending their best staff from the
> Sharpstown store to the Galleria, and shut down the former...after
> which, the mall's lifetime can be measured in weeks, if that long.
It's like the Sears in what was Westwood Mall... one has to ask: "Why?"
> Always wanted to try Pier 21..
>
> back in the early 70's I worked down town and ate at Tamborello's on
> Main street at least once a week. Got the hot Itilian poorboy, but
> they were not as good after that one lady retired..
Pier 21 was a great place; my parents were regulars. Very good gulf
coast seafood, nice atmosphere and friendly staff... we had a regular
waitress who always took excellent care of us.
Smacking myself. Early message, forgot to list Trader Vick's, in the
Shamrock.
On 1/19/06 10:48 AM, in article
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On 1/19/06 11:22 AM, in article
1137691361....@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Jack Tyler"
<market...@houston.rr.com> wrote:
> My G. Grandfather (my mother's grandfather) moved here from Canada
> around 1870. They, at some point, lived in a house south of what is
> now highway 59, downtown, on a street called Grayson. It doesn't seem
> to exist now. My son and daughter are 5th generation Houstonians. All
> of this, I guess, reminds me that my aunt built the 1st house on
> Wheeler Street, when it was a dirt road and had to suffer the laughs of
> her friends because she moved that far out of Houston to save money.
> The point to this story must be that Spanish Village, on Almeda, was a
> favorite haunt of ours for Mexican food in the late 60's and early
> 70's, as it had a private club upstairs which served mixed drinks.
>
> Jack
>
You still go there? The widow seems to want to keep it going, although her
kids have a pretty much negative approach.
Another family restaurant, Leos, is trying to sell their stuff to the
Mandolia (sp?) family. Hope that it works.
On 1/19/06 11:46 AM, in article
xn0ehf1ea...@news-server.houston.rr.com, "Albert Nurick"
<alb...@nurick.com> wrote:
> myst...@cox-internet.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks so much. I ate at the Mason Jar many many times. They had
>> (are they still there?) the best baked potato soup.
>> A group of us would go to the Blackeyed Pea and get salad and rolls.
>> Yummy fresh yeast rolls. Ach! I'm making myself hungry.
>>
>> The Stables was an expensive place, right?
>
> I'd describe it as an upper-moderate steakhouse.
>
>> I need to know the difference before I have my characters go there.
>
>> Was Vargos around back then?
>
> Yep. People went for the atmosphere on the grounds, with the strolling
> peacocks. Food was never the point at Vargo's.
>
> If you want a really cool setting, consider Los Troncos. It was a
> restaurant built into a gigantic old tree, and many locals called it
> the Treehouse. Winding passages between tables, each of which was in
> its own little wooden room. A perfect spot for intrigue.
>
> I was a kid when I went with my parents; perhaps Jack or someone else
> could give you more details.
>
> Another unique spot is Spindletop, the rotating restaurant atop the
> Hyatt Regency downtown. When it was built in the 70's, it had an
> amazing view, and was quite the hotspot for a while. It's near the big
> oil buildings.
>
> The Petroleum Club is another oil bigwig spot; it's a private club
> downtown.
>
> The Old Capital Club was located in the Rice Hotel; a private club
> frequented primarily by lawyers and judges. Highback red-leather
> banquettes, private lockers for member's booze behind the bar, and no
> women allowed.
On 20 Jan 2006 02:34:16 GMT, George Kerby <ghost_...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>The Chief Instigator wrote:
>
>> The only mystery left (besides the schizophrenic paint job being done
>> on random sections of the mall exterior, and why it's being done) is
>> when Foley's announces they'll be sending their best staff from the
>> Sharpstown store to the Galleria, and shut down the former...after
>> which, the mall's lifetime can be measured in weeks, if that long.
>
>It's like the Sears in what was Westwood Mall... one has to ask: "Why?"
What "was"??? What is it now? I used to work there before I went back
to school.
Jeanne
Temperature in the winter.
> Where was the Treehouse? I never heard of it.
It was on inner Westheimer, where Da Marco is now, I believe. Operated
by Daniel Trevino Jr. Closed sometime in the '70's.
They tried to turn it into a technology business center, with limited
success. It's not a mall anymore. :(
We had Sunday brunch every weekend at the San Jacinto Inn (Monument Inn)
and I was soooooo tired of eating there, but my family loved their
oysters on the half shell.
Grandma loved the Picadilly cafeteria and KFC. She was glad to have
fried chicken without having to cook it. My favorite restaurants were
Jack in the Box, Der Wienerschnitzel and Shakey's Pizza (hey, I was just
a kid!).
Becca
Jack
Jack
Jack
On 1/19/06 2:40 PM, in article 43CFF94E...@houston.rr.com,
"nos...@nowhere.org" <nos...@nowhere.org> wrote:
> Chris Pando wrote:
>>
>> Jack Tyler wrote:
>>> My G. Grandfather (my mother's grandfather) moved here from Canada
>>> around 1870.
>>
>> That's actually relatively recently. Certainly not early enough to
>> qualify the ladies for DTR.
>>
>> .
>>> The point to this story must be that Spanish Village, on Almeda, was a
>>> favorite haunt of ours for Mexican food in the late 60's and early
>>> 70's, as it had a private club upstairs which served mixed drinks.
>>
>> Larry Pico's Spanish Village, in those days. In the early 70's it was
>> the only Mexican restaurant in town that realized that chile
>> relleno is *not* a bell pepper stuffed with beef and rice. It is the
>> only place in town I will order a margarita, and a favorite of my
>> wife's and mine during our courting days.
>>
>> Chris
>> --
>
> If I had all the money I spent at Spanish Village, Leo's and Phil's,
> well I'd be happily retired by now. Ah for the good old days of loose
> women, pot, booze and having leftover money when you're making $8 an
> hour....
>
> --Kelly Younger
YOU were making THAT much?!?
On 1/19/06 3:24 PM, in article
xn0ehf768...@news-server.houston.rr.com, "Albert Nurick"
<alb...@nurick.com> wrote:
> The Chief Instigator wrote:
>
>> myst...@cox-internet.com writes:
>>
>>> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:03:04 GMT, "Julia Dream"
>>> <pink...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> Pipe Organ Pizza Parlor at Memorial City Mall (or was in Town and
>>>> Country Center?)
>>>>
>>>> Becky
>>
>>> That reminds me. Does anyone remember that gigantic organ they
>>> brought over from somewhere in Europe and installed in the food
>>> court at Sharpstown Mall? Now that was something. Guess the hoi
>>> paloi didn't appreciate it though as it didn't last.
>>>
>>> Jeanne
>>
>> They saw what was coming...the old Good Time Charley's in the late
>> '70s is now a shell of its former self. (Dale and I were going to
>> get our annual Christmas Cinnabons there, and discovered that
>> Cinnabon bailed out of Sharpstown a month or two before. It's like
>> watching Westwood Mall die near the turn of the century.)
>
> I visited Sharpstown a couple of years ago, and was depressed. Lots of
> no-name schlock peddlers, and the typical mall stores seemed to be
> making an exodus. I see no reason to return.
Not to mention the crime.
On 1/19/06 6:56 PM, in article
xn0ehfcpp...@news-server.houston.rr.com, "Albert Nurick"
<alb...@nurick.com> wrote:
> rbrtm01 wrote:
>
>> Always wanted to try Pier 21..
>>
>> back in the early 70's I worked down town and ate at Tamborello's on
>> Main street at least once a week. Got the hot Itilian poorboy, but
>> they were not as good after that one lady retired..
>
> Pier 21 was a great place; my parents were regulars. Very good gulf
> coast seafood, nice atmosphere and friendly staff... we had a regular
> waitress who always took excellent care of us.
I'll second that. While being poor students at UST, we still had enough
scratch to go over there on Friday nights and engorge ourselves in more than
ample servings of great seafood. Dentler's place is extremely missed.
On 1/20/06 8:39 AM, in article
1137767962.3...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Jack Tyler"
<market...@houston.rr.com> wrote:
> Cyclical color changes. I noticed
> that there's a place getting ready to open on Almeda, across from KCOH
> (remember Skipper Lee?)
Who doesn't? "Hey-hey, Cadillac!"
We were "blue-eyed soul brothers" in the late 60's...
>The Chief Instigator wrote:
>> The only mystery left (besides the schizophrenic paint job being done
>> on random sections of the mall exterior, and why it's being done) is
>> when Foley's announces they'll be sending their best staff from the
>> Sharpstown store to the Galleria, and shut down the former...after
>> which, the mall's lifetime can be measured in weeks, if that long.
>It's like the Sears in what was Westwood Mall... one has to ask: "Why?"
That should be asked of those who got Westwood going - in the mid-'70s, not
quite three miles down 59 from Sharpstown, which at the time was the mall to
go to on the southwest side. (Maybe the same ones who decided Town & Country,
less than a mile away from an established Memorial City, could survive for the
long term.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 4, San Antonio 1 (January 15)
NEXT GAME: Friday, January 20 vs. Rochester, 7:35
>>The Chief Instigator wrote:
It's now Westwood Technology Center...and doesn't seem to have too many
tenants.
I just thought of a couple more restaurants back in the '70's.
How about Brenner's on I-10, the Boston Sea Party on Westheimer.
Molina's on Westheimer. And The Old Munich Inn, I think it was on
Telephone road, just inside the loop a couple of blocks. Pappy's on
I-10. Hofbrau on Shepherd.
Just for the record, Prince's Hamburgers has 2 places I know of,
relatively new though. One on I-10 near Bunker Hill, the other on 59
inbound at Weslelyan.
Best regards,
A.C. in Houston.
> On 1/19/06 6:56 PM, in article
> xn0ehfcpp...@news-server.houston.rr.com, "Albert Nurick"
> <alb...@nurick.com> wrote:
> > Pier 21 was a great place; my parents were regulars. Very good gulf
> > coast seafood, nice atmosphere and friendly staff... we had a
> > regular waitress who always took excellent care of us.
> I'll second that. While being poor students at UST, we still had
> enough scratch to go over there on Friday nights and engorge
> ourselves in more than ample servings of great seafood. Dentler's
> place is extremely missed.
Amen. IIRC, the waitress's name was Jackie. Nice lady.
The Chief Instigator wrote:
> "Albert Nurick" <alb...@nurick.com> writes:
>
>
>>The Chief Instigator wrote:
>
>
>>>The only mystery left (besides the schizophrenic paint job being done
>>>on random sections of the mall exterior, and why it's being done) is
>>>when Foley's announces they'll be sending their best staff from the
>>>Sharpstown store to the Galleria, and shut down the former...after
>>>which, the mall's lifetime can be measured in weeks, if that long.
>
>
>>It's like the Sears in what was Westwood Mall... one has to ask: "Why?"
>
>
> That should be asked of those who got Westwood going - in the mid-'70s, not
> quite three miles down 59 from Sharpstown, which at the time was the mall to
> go to on the southwest side. (Maybe the same ones who decided Town & Country,
> less than a mile away from an established Memorial City, could survive for the
> long term.)
>
I suppose that they all thought that they could beat the competition and
get them to close.
>The Chief Instigator wrote:
>> "Albert Nurick" <alb...@nurick.com> writes:
>>>The Chief Instigator wrote:
Probably so, but they obviously didn't consider that malls evolve to fit the
retail environment, and those that don't wind up being rebuilt for other
purposes. That's why we don't have T&C and Westwood around any more.
<myst...@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
news:lrhts110tdu49ua6m...@4ax.com...
> and the time period I'm writing about is 70-74.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeanne
> mystkitty removethis @cox-internet.com
I was at UH during that time. When we left campus to eat it was usually to
Pizza Inn on OST, Prince's on the Gulf Freeway at Cullen, Loma Linda on OST
(or was that a Monterrey House?--my memory is failing me), Tanny's on
Calhoun across from the University Center (reeeealy popular on 10 cent beer
nights), Roy Rogers near Gulfgate Mall, Yamin's on Buffalo Speedway or my
favorite..Frenchie's PoBoy on Scott. Frenchie's had the best fried chicken
ever. When we had some real money to spend we went to Valians across from
the Shamrock for Italian, Old San Francisco Steak House on Westheimer or the
San Jacinto Inn.
--
Bob Andrews
> Frenchie's PoBoy on Scott. Frenchie's had the best fried chicken
> ever.
Right now I am trying to remember the fried chicken restaurants in the
70's and nothing comes to mind, except KFC and Tinsley's.
When I was a student in Huntsville, the Chicken Shack was one of my
favorites.
Becca
You mean HAS. Frenchy's is still open and still serving terrific fried
chicken. I was there about 2 weeks ago.
Kerr.
KFC was around as was Churches and Hartz (I think). Popeyes was a little
later. But IMHO nobody could touch Frenchie's. Two pieces (breast and wing),
fries and a jalapeno in a white box for pretty cheap. They used what seemed
like a hotter version of Lawreys(sp?) on their food. I remember a couple of
other locations, I-45 North and one on the East Freeway but I never visited
them. The Scott St location was a regular 'run' for us. It could get a
little dicey there from time to time at night (we'd get 'the eye' a few
times from other customers and I had a beer can thrown at my car one night)
but the ladies working there knew us well and we got extra chicken and fries
from them.
-Bob Andrews
"Kerr." <rk...@houston.rr.kom> wrote in message
news:rzgAf.8022$1J1....@tornado.texas.rr.com...
No kidding? Well, I need to get out more. Actually I've been around UH a
couple of times in the last month or so but hadn't thought to poke around
the old 'haunts'.
Don't forget Ron's Fried Chicken (flavored to the bone).
>
> Don't forget Ron's Fried Chicken (flavored to the bone).
--
I remember that motto but can't picture a Ron's outlet.
Roy Rogers used to run an AYCE Sunday fried chicken special. At least they
did at the Gulfgate location until the manager finally told us, with no
apology to Rodney Dangerfield whose line he stole... 'Fellas, that's all you
can eat'.
Bob Andrews
They had a red, yellow and white logo. For awhile, it seemed like musical
chicken places. I remember several locations where it'd start off as a KFC,
then become Ron's, then Church's, and back to KFC, here in Houston.
This got me curious, so went and googled 'em. Came up with this:
http://www.ronsfoods.com/aboutus.html
Hey, I was good at my craft. Not to mention my commodities trading
expertise. Life is cheap when you're splitting $200 rent four ways and
you have to ride a bike to go anywhere.
--
--Kelly Younger
>
> Tony Vallone (the proprietor of Tony's) introduced true fine dining to
> the Houston area, and his establishment became the hangout of the rich
> and powerful. Maxine Messenger, the gossip columnist at the Chronicle,
> held court there, and her column was peppered with who was at Tony's on
> a given night.
>
Who could forget the infamous lunch that Fran Blinebury had with then
Oilers GM Lance Herzeg, where they got into a slap fight right in the
middle of Tony's after dropping $1200 and a few bottles of champagne