Fox Diner (an example of a place that had a cheap location, loyal
clientele, good reputation, but made the mistake of moving to larger and
more ambitious "concept")
Pot Pie Pizzeria (same story)
Rivoli (not sure what their problem was)
La Strada (Greek lightening)
Not so recent:
Armando's (same story as Fox Diner, but some time ago)
Pico's (Southwest Freeway/Kirby location)
Yakov's Deli (greedy landlord now enjoying vacated sites of at least
three restaurants)
Kirby Grill (now a dental mall)
Thai House (original location on Fondren was terrible, but the food was
great; fortunately now reincarnated as Thai on Westheimer, and still the
best Thai in the city in my opinion)
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Phil's (now 59 Diner)
Leo's
Bill Williams' Oyster Bar
Ye Olde College Inn
Tony Ruppe's
Cite Grill (by far the best restaurant I've ever had the pleasure to
dine in that was never crowded)
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Hard Times Cafe (at the Fountains in Stafford) -- I still miss their chili
Mary
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Pier 21
The Red Lion
La Pavilion
Los Troncos
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Across the Street on Hillcroft (great burgers!!)
Lee
And where else could you place your order via a telephone
to the kitchen?
Carey in Pearland
I remember a place in the Seattle area called "'Round the Corner" that
had the same schtick (this was almost 20 years ago). Was there
really a similar place in Houston with an obviously derivative name?
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Yep. I went there as a kid, over 30 years ago. I wonder which is
the derivative? ;-)
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Ron.
>Valian's
>Kaphan's
>Ta Hua(best dumpling's EVER!)
>Sonny Look's
Empire Bakery as small restaurant.
Yep. It's excellent. Steph and I make the trip from Meyerland pretty
frequently.
Becky
Valian's
Kaphan's - Oysters Bienville
George Dentler's Pier 21
Ari's Grenouille - Houston's first sidewalk restaurant; I lived 2 blocks
from there and the smell of garlic in the air drove me crazy, but all I can
remember eating is the escargot - and lots of wine. I never made it to Los
Troncos a block away for some reason. (Remember when lower Westheimer was
'restaurant row?'
The Courtyard - old Steakhouse Associates location (now Saltgrass Steakhouse
on the Katy Fwy). A bunch of folks from work went every Tuesday for giant
margaritas, prime rib, king crab.
San Jacinto Inn
The Mariposa Room @ NM - hmm, I guess it's closed, I haven't been to the
Galleria in years.
Jacques Broil'r Burger (or something like that) on Westheimer across from
St. Anne's.
There was a great deli downtown, early 70s, somewhere between the Alley and
Market Square, I wanna say Rockefeller's but I know that's not right; huge
deli sandwiches on kaiser rolls, Dr. Brown's Cel-Ray Tonic and sodas. I
worked in the MedCtr area at the time and a bunch of us would pile in cars
(2 or 3 carloads at times) and fight the traffic downtown to go there for
lunch.
The Pleasant Peasant on Post Oak.
Night Hawk restaurants - oh, wait a minute, that's Austin.
Becky, craving their sausage for about 8 years now (and feeling more than a
bit silly for originally posting this in the wrong thread; again, my
apologies)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, good ol' Ari's Grenouille. I had my first escargots there
when I was about 10, and all I can say is YUM! I also lived in that area
(late 70s), but evidently not close enough to smell the garlic.
Becky
>Kaphan's - Oysters Bienville
An import from New Orleans borrowed from Ye Old College Inn as were
all of Kaphan's gamut of oysters.
Frank Matthews
Well, there was a Night Hawk on Westheimer in the 70's. Westheimer and
Fondren. Went there a couple of times. Didn't last tho'
Rex
Has anyone tried the AYCE at Monument Inn (right down from San Jacinto)?
Their menu items are very good.
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>The Green Parrot - in an antebellum mansion in the MacGregor Park area -
>complete with finger bowls and musical birds - great food also - particularly
>the fried chicken and fudge pie.
>
Yes, a great restaurant.
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> A number of recent casualties:
>
> Fox Diner (an example of a place that had a cheap location, loyal
> clientele, good reputation, but made the mistake of moving to larger and
> more ambitious "concept")
>
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>> I remember a place in the Seattle area called "'Round the Corner" that
>> had the same schtick (this was almost 20 years ago). Was there
>> really a similar place in Houston with an obviously derivative name?
>
>Yep. I went there as a kid, over 30 years ago. I wonder which is
>the derivative? ;-)
Round the Corner existed at least 35 years ago (in Fort Collins,
Colorado). The last time this discussion came up in houston.eats,
Pete Romfh said that he at one time had a contract servicing the
telephones in Colorado-Wyoming.
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Ron
I also have fond memories of:
Valian's on South Main,
The Cellar Door on Stella Link,
The Parthenon by the Port of Houston, and
(or was it The Acropolis, which was nearby?).
Plus, some modest downtown places:
Jame's Coney Island old downtown location
(before they switched from sliced cheese to squeeze-cheese),
L.C. Cafeteria ... the so-called "World's Largest Cafeteria"
(not so clean, but a fun downtown experience for a kid), and
The Snack Bar in the basement of Foley's garage downtown.
Did Albert Gee ever open another establishment
after that one closed?
The Flintlock on NASA 1
Haruno, a sushi place in Memorial City, now Yoshida-Ya.
Natraj, Indian place behind what was then Dino's Pizza on Shepherd, now
Little Pappas Seafood.
Dino's Pizza (I am told it was good, but never tried it).
Cafe Edi, corner of Alabama and Shepherd.
Shalimar, Indian buffet place on Westheimer.
Papou's on West Alabama, run by the same guy who ran
Nick's Fishmarket, downtown.
Four Seasons Hotel, first floor buffet, where I had lunch across from
the rock band U2 one day--I didn't know who they were. A couple of
weeks later, I had lunch there again and David Bowie strolled in.
Kojak's Sandwich Shop, on Shepherd. A Greek deli.
Pappamia, one on Richmond, one in Memorial City.
Sorely missed, this was my favorite Italian place. Pasta-wrapped and
potato-wrapped fish items were superb.
Rao's on Richmond.
D'Amico on Westheimer.
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I remember going there as a kid in the 70's. It was always filled with
people, and the restauarant had fish tanks everywhere!
As a growing boy, I could eat my weight in cat fish fillets, :-) and
oftentimes did!! And their hush puppies were fantastic as well. Anyone
else remember this place?
Guess I'm the only one that liked Po' Folks too. Their chicken fried steak,
mashed taters & gravy were fantastic!! I remember one night my mom & I
getting kicked out of the place, on one of them "all you can eat cfs"
nights - I had just gotten home from boot camp, and it was the first "real
people" food I'd had in 2 months. After 3 hours of bringing me cfs & gravy,
they said "Ok, that's it, you're done". Funny memory now though!
>
>Kojak's Sandwich Shop, on Shepherd. A Greek deli.
>
Kojak's reopened on 18th, in a slightly different form. Still
a greek deli, with memorabilia from the place on Shepherd.
Daily blue-plate type hot special, meat loaf with whipped
potatos, and that sort of stuff. Lots of po' boys, and,
weirdly enough, Italian ceramics.
As for places that have closed,
Lee's Den
Java (Indonesian restaurant at Voss and Westheimer).
Houston doesn't have enough Indonesian restaurants.
Chris, who sometimes craves gado-gado.
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Frank Matthews
Argh. Well outside our stomping grounds. I'm assuming he's
passed away; I'd have loved to have gone to his new store.
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> Guess I'm the only one that liked Po' Folks too.
I remember going to the one in Bossier City growing up.
Then it got replaced by 'Liars Pub' which had stuffed
cheeseburgers (cheese in the middle surrounded by meat,
I'd give my left arm to find something like that again)
and now its a sushi joint.
And I think the building started life as a Sambo's.
Sam
Wow. Lee's Den. I loved it... it also reminds me of:
Sonny Look's Sir Loin House on South Main.
George Dentler's Pier 21 ( I saw Frank Sinatra eating in there one
night). That one was already mentioned.
Ballatori's, south of downtown... in an old bank building... you could
dine in the safe... that one only closed 6-7 years ago, though.
Foulard's in the River Oaks High Rise
Bordman's where Chuy's is today.
That Polinesian restaurant at the Shamrock Hotel?
Jack Tyler
An obvious answer to this one is the San Jacinto Inn.... Also, Boston
Sea Market tried to do it with Atlantic seafood and didn't make it
long.
Jack tyler
>
Joe Matranga's (on Irvington-BTW, Joe's still kickin')
Cellar Door
Rudy's(Across from Tony's, owned by Joe Lucia, and every bit as good as
Tony's)
Red Lion
Burger Haus (Park Place)
Guy's BBQ (may still be on OST?)
I never ate there sober but it was always good. ;)
> Ballatori's, south of downtown... in an old bank building... you could
> dine in the safe... that one only closed 6-7 years ago, though.
I grew up down the street from that East End State Bank that became
Ballatori's. Always tried to get the family to eat there for a reunion but
no one else was interested.
> Bordman's where Chuy's is today.
Oh, yeah. Bordman's was wonderful. I'd forgotten Chuy's took the building...
them bastards.
> That Polinesian restaurant at the Shamrock Hotel?
That's Trader Vic's that someone mentioned earlier. Someone else said the
food wasn't good there but I never had a bad meal and the drinks and
atmosphere were wonderful. I really miss that. It was ole Houston at its
best to my mind. Last time I was there was for Granada Cattle's fluid
auction. This was after oil crashed and it was a spectacular bittersweet
event.
h-
I miss them.
Kirk
Rex
Frank Matthews
As far as the San Jacinto Inn and the Atlantic Seafood, I have no idea went
on with those restaurants, but do enlighten me please.
And thank you Jack and everybody else for your responses.
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>Joe Matranga's (on Irvington-BTW, Joe's still kickin')
Thanks for that; I've been trying to remember the name of that one for days.
How about Candy Sam's on OST - bbq.
There was a group of bbq shops downtown the first time I moved to Houston
in 1963, Steve's I think. I learned right away to order 'outside beef.'
Ron's Crispy Fried Chicken - local chain bought out by Church's, as I recall;
advertised by Ol' Dew on KTRH Gardenline. Some of the pieces were, er, sorta
unidentifiable; we called it 'Ron's Crispy Critters.'
Weldon's Cafeteria on S. Main - okay, I was too young to know if the food
was any good. Mother always took us there when she had to bring my brother
and I to town when she went shopping but being from a very small town, we
marveled at the fact it was a two story building and we could take our trays
upstairs on the balcony to eat.
Monterey House - the finest dining in my hometown.
This is gettin' outta' hand.
Toddle House - when I was working my way thru UT, a Master Burger from Toddle
House was the culinary highlight of my week; when I moved to Houston, I still
liked to go there for breakfast or a burger.
The little place on Westheimer, across from Ari's and Los Troncos, which
introduced Argentinian empanadas to Houston, ca. 1973; I have not been able
to remember the name. Sometimes the line stretched out to the street.
Myte-T-Byte (or something like that) in an old Toddle House on Shepard -
the burger as finger food, burgers the size of biscuits, something like White
Castle, I guess, moved out on Bissonet near Beechnut then became a pupuseria.
Huh? In the original post that I made, I listed several recently and
not so recently closed places. After more
people chimed in, I simply remembered more.
And here's another:
Chez Eddy, across from Methodist Hospital, featuring "heart-healthy"
food.
A great place for lunch.
As for not knowing who U2 were, I was with a bunch of secretaries at my
table,
"Secretaries' Day". They were all abuzz about something. I said. "What
is everyone talking
about?" They said "You too." I replied, "Me too what?" This went on
for some time,
in the manner of "Who's on first" before it was explained to me.
Another time, at Royal Tokyo in Dallas, a similar experience. I was
seated at the sushi bar, and all
of a sudden a large group of people got up and left. The buzz started.
Again, I asked, "what is everyone
talking about?" "Nine inch nails" was the reply. And so on.
Marini's Empanadas. Now located on Hillcroft at Richmond.
Kerr.
> Guy's BBQ (may still be on OST?)
If it is the same as Guy's Market (on OST between 288 and Almeda), yes
they're still alive. The sausage is especially good IMHO.
Judy
> George Dentler's Pier 21 ( I saw Frank Sinatra eating in there one
> night). That one was already mentioned.
George Dentler had Pier on 6 on Hwy 6 for a while. Every table had a
telephone. Then he was running a mexican food place in Montgomery. Now he
manages the K-Bob's in Brenham.
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The Polynesian restaurant in the Shemrock Hilton was Trader Vic's... to
answer my own question.
Yep, Hane... the drinks were always served in glasses with monkeys and
umbrellas... or in coconuts.
Jack tyler
>
> h-
>
>
>
I grew up in Shoreacres, down near Seabrook. It was always a treat to go to
the San Jacinto Inn, near the battleship TEXAS. They only served seafood
from the Gulf of Mexico... I believe that the last trip I made there, the
cost was $18.00 AYCE. They always started you off with fried chicken...
then moved on to boiled shrimp... then on, and on.
I remember taking a girl there on a date one time and caught her putting
boiled shrimp in a baggie in her purse. First AND last date.
Boston Sea Party was different... and lasted a little later. The seafood
was all from the Atlantic... and, although it was AYCE, it seems to me that
you got one choice of a main entree.
and the Atlantic Seafood, I have no idea went
> on with those restaurants, but do enlighten me please.
>
> And thank you Jack and everybody else for your responses.
You're welcome.
Jack
In any of the multitude of examples does anyone know why they died?
I wonder about Rancho Tejas. I always liked their Sunday buffet but
that clearly wasn't a primary support. How was their lunch menu & business?
Frank Matthews
We moved here in '77 and most of these fond memories have been gone for a long
time:
--Don's Le Patois on the strip on Westheimer. Spinach salad and other
Continental delights.
--Zorba the Greek on Tuam. Great batter-fried shrimp.
--It on W. Gray across from River Oaks Theater. Super desserts and
people-watching.
--Salvatore's on Montrose. Wonderful cannolis.
--Clifton-by-the-Sea in San Leon. The new version is no comparison. Nothing
beat a T&T and crab-stuffed jalapenos on the deck and then Crab au Gratin for
dinner.
Vicki
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>> A number of recent casualties:
>>
>> Fox Diner (an example of a place that had a cheap location, loyal
>> clientele, good reputation, but made the mistake of moving to larger and
>> more ambitious "concept")
>>
>> Pot Pie Pizzeria (same story)
>>
>> Rivoli (not sure what their problem was)
>>
>> La Strada (Greek lightening)
>>
>> Not so recent:
>>
>> Armando's (same story as Fox Diner, but some time ago)
>>
>> Pico's (Southwest Freeway/Kirby location)
>>
>> Yakov's Deli (greedy landlord now enjoying vacated sites of at least
>> three restaurants)
>>
>> Kirby Grill (now a dental mall)
>>
>> Thai House (original location on Fondren was terrible, but the food was
>> great; fortunately now reincarnated as Thai on Westheimer, and still the
>> best Thai in the city in my opinion)
>>
Okay, I'm a bit confused. Are you referring to Ari's Grenouille? I know
Ari's Grenouille was on Memorial near Dairy Ashford in the late 70s, then
they moved inside the Loop in the early to mid-90s, and, I had thought,
changed their name. Was it still called Ari's, maybe Ari's Cafe or
something? I never made it there after the move. <sighs>
Becky
Not to nitpick, but the phone book, and I believe the sign out front, reads
Marines. And man do they have some awesome empanadas!!! :-)
Becky
Becca
And that reminds me of the Railhead on Richmond near Hillcroft. It's Club 64 or
something now. They had the best cheddar soup and prime rib.
h-
I believe that they never reopened after a kitchen fire. The formar owner,
Pat McCarley, is V.P. Operations for Cordua Restaurants now and posts here
from time to time.
Jack Tyler
>
The guy that owned Marini's started work with a TV station. The Marini's
on westheimer was a hoot. Sangria in the pitchur, empanadas, writing on
the table, walls, and floors. the Marini's on Fondrenis the same
empanada menu, but the whole atomsphere is diff.
J
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> > > As for places that have closed,
> > >
> > > Lee's Den
> >
> > Wow. Lee's Den. I loved it... it also reminds me of:
>
> I never ate there sober but it was always good. ;)
>
> > Ballatori's, south of downtown... in an old bank building... you could
> > dine in the safe... that one only closed 6-7 years ago, though.
Ballatori's.. Bush the elder ate there once when I was there. The secret
service guys liked it because the vault part of the restaurant was safe.
he he he
J
Another place was Ming palace upstairs Grey and Shepard. Some of the
first dim sum in Houston.
J
> I grew up down the street from that East End State Bank that became
> Ballatori's. Always tried to get the family to eat there for a reunion but
> no one else was interested.
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> San Jacinto Inn
> Ming Palace
Amen to both!
J
Yes it is the same, once known as Guy's Meat Market, located on Almeda
many, many years ago.
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>> George Dentler's Pier 21 ( I saw Frank Sinatra eating in there one
>> night). That one was already mentioned.
>
>George Dentler had Pier on 6 on Hwy 6 for a while. Every table had a
>telephone. Then he was running a mexican food place in Montgomery. Now he
>manages the K-Bob's in Brenham.
>
>Lance
Are you sure you aren't talking about Junior, I thought George Dentler
died some time ago?
Many places fade after the original owner dies or leaves. Often final
episode is a traditional `friction fire' -insufficient income rubbing
against a big debt'.
>Delurking once again on this nostalgic thread, because I read all the posts
>(none from the Roach, yea!) and never found mention of some of the late great
>restaurants I remember.
Thanks Aunt Vickie, but sorry you arrived so late - You never got a
chance at Ye Olde College Inn, San Jacinto Inn in its heyday, Rice
Hotel Cafeteria, Empire Room at night, 2 K's Deli on South Main, Bill
Williams, Weldon Cafeteria, Tomek's Steak House on Old Galveston Rd.
(not Hwy 3), Green Parrot, Restaurant at Old Foley's downtown,
Prince's Drive Inn in its heyday at OST/S. Main, Golden Pheasant
downtown, ... and so many others.
>We moved here in '77 and most of these fond memories have been gone for a long
>time:
>
>--Don's Le Patois on the strip on Westheimer. Spinach salad and other
>Continental delights.
>--Zorba the Greek on Tuam. Great batter-fried shrimp.
>--It on W. Gray across from River Oaks Theater. Super desserts and
>people-watching.
>--Salvatore's on Montrose. Wonderful cannolis.
>--Clifton-by-the-Sea in San Leon. The new version is no comparison. Nothing
>beat a T&T and crab-stuffed jalapenos on the deck and then Crab au Gratin for
>dinner.
Yes, that last one was good .
>The Chez Orleans on Westheimer, near Highland Village, right by the
>railroad tracks. I miss that place.
>
>Becca
Do you recall Joe Damagio's in the same area?
>Another place was Ming palace upstairs Grey and Shepard. Some of the
>first dim sum in Houston.
Yes, and an old One's A Meal close by for a late night snack.
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You forgot the Sakowitz tearoom downtown and later at Post Oak - the salad trio
- shrimp, chicken and - can't remember the third!
> What eating places are Corduro??
>
> Jack
Cordua Restaurants include Americas, Churrascos, and Amazon Grill.
Mary
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> Would that also include "El Bife Bueno" grill off of Kirby @ 59??
AFAIK, that place isn't a Cordua restaurant.
I think
> it's Argentinian based and the meats there are excellent.
The Cordua restaurants are "Latin cuisine", not strictly Argentinian-based.
Mary
>This guy is old, I'd say in his 70s. I'll find out if he is a junior and it
>was his dad that ran Pier 21. When a business associate first spoke of him,
>he asked me, "Do you know who George Dentler is? He's been around a while
>..."
>
>Lance
Fits, Junior was upper middle aged when he closed Pier 21 which his
daddy opened.
>>Restaurant at Old Foley's downtown,
>
>You forgot the Sakowitz tearoom downtown and later at Post Oak - the salad trio
>- shrimp, chicken and - can't remember the third!
>
Crab? I didn't forget - just liked Foley's much better. I knew people
who worked in the Sakowitz catering operation, but still preferred
Foleys. Can't recall the name of the proprietress - she authored
several excellent books .