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Kennon Baird

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Aug 19, 2002, 9:16:04 PM8/19/02
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Anybody remember these?:

Zorba's - Tuam @ Helena. In '72, it was a small, overcrowded,
crumbling shack (my foot actually went through the floor one night) -
but what a feed! Later, they built a larger place at the same
location, but it wasn't the same.

Valian's Steak House - S. Main, across from where The Shamrock Hotel
was. I remember the ceiling was blue, with painted stars.

Alfred's in The Village - Wonderful soups and breads. Just the thing
to satisfy hungry student types.

The Cellar Door on Stella Link - This was my "special" restaurant when
I was young and "in love".

Hamburgers by Gourmet - various locations (I recall the one at Yoakum
and Alabama the best). You placed your order from your table via an
old-timey telephone. I can still taste their Hickory Burger.

Rolando's Burger Factory - various locations. Always good - and cheap!

Mel's BBQ - A tiny little place just west of far South Main. Mel was
always there.

Kennon

Jay P Francis

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Aug 19, 2002, 10:01:57 PM8/19/02
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Foote's Cafeteria, which dipped their chicken in pancake batter before frying
it up.

Zen Cohen

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"Kennon Baird" <k...@dnai.com> wrote in message
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> Anybody remember these?:
>

Yup, all but Mel's.


> ....


>
> Valian's Steak House - S. Main, across from where The Shamrock Hotel
> was. I remember the ceiling was blue, with painted stars.
>

Anyone remember Mike Sanjakian who worked at Valian's in the 60s? My
grandparents were good friends with him and his wife, Rose (both came over
from Armenia, I believe), and they invariably brought us a pizza whenever
they visited us. (BTW, my grandparents used to own Bluebonnet Gardens on S
Main and later on Bissonnet. Sold beer and watermelon by the slice.)
Anyway, the Sanjakians were some of the nicest people I've ever known. I
think Mike died a couple years ago in his late 90s, but they'll both live in
fond memories as long as I'm around.

> Alfred's in The Village - Wonderful soups and breads. Just the thing
> to satisfy hungry student types.
>

Great place. Cut my teeth on the corned beef and matzo ball soup. When I was
a kid, I'd marvel at the chocolate-covered insects they sold. Feh!

> The Cellar Door on Stella Link - This was my "special" restaurant when
> I was young and "in love".
>

Another good memory. I used to work across the street at the old FedMart
when I was 16 (ok, 15 -- I fudged my age to get the job) and would eat at
Cellar Door when I got a little extra money. When you're making $2.75 an
hr., a place like Cellar Door was a huge extravagance.

> ...

>
> Rolando's Burger Factory - various locations. Always good - and cheap!
>

Great hippie hangout. Anybody remember their ads in Houston's underground
newspaper of the 60s/70s? Space City News, or something like that...


Paul

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Aug 19, 2002, 10:19:29 PM8/19/02
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"Kennon Baird" <k...@dnai.com> wrote in message
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> Anybody remember these?:
>
> Zorba's - Tuam @ Helena. In '72, it was a small, overcrowded,
> crumbling shack (my foot actually went through the floor one night) -
> but what a feed! Later, they built a larger place at the same
> location, but it wasn't the same.
>
> Valian's Steak House - S. Main, across from where The Shamrock Hotel
> was. I remember the ceiling was blue, with painted stars.

Remember it, but don't think I ever went there.


>
> Alfred's in The Village - Wonderful soups and breads. Just the thing
> to satisfy hungry student types.

We used to go to Alfred's on Stella Link when I was a kid. Great pastries.
It was a long time before I found almond crescents like the ones at
Alfred's.


>
> The Cellar Door on Stella Link - This was my "special" restaurant when
> I was young and "in love".

Remember it, don't think I ever went there.


>
> Hamburgers by Gourmet - various locations (I recall the one at Yoakum
> and Alabama the best). You placed your order from your table via an
> old-timey telephone. I can still taste their Hickory Burger.
>
> Rolando's Burger Factory - various locations. Always good - and cheap!

Have mercy. Rolando's on Kirby. Good burgers and cheap beer. Went through
many a pitcher of Schlitz Dark when I should have been in school. Tried to
play a little foosball too, but that's tough when you're not real
coordinated and have been putting away Schlitz Dark.


>
> Mel's BBQ - A tiny little place just west of far South Main. Mel was
> always there.

This one doesn't ring any bells.

I was in Houston recently and drove down South Main between 610 and
Willowbend. It's a freeway now! Off on the right (on the access road now) is
the Chez Lounge, which has been there as long as I can remember (I'm 46). I
really gotta go in there for a beer sometime...

Others: Prince's Hamburgers, Roznovsky's, the Red Lion, the list goes on.

Are you related to a David Baird?

Paul


Wilkinson

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Aug 20, 2002, 12:15:52 AM8/20/02
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>
>
>Anybody remember these?:
>
> Zorba's - Tuam @ Helena. In '72, it was a small, overcrowded,
>crumbling shack (my foot actually went through the floor one night) -
>but what a feed! Later, they built a larger place at the same
>location, but it wasn't the same.
>
It came complete with overdone decor -- a whole fishing rowboat in the
ceiling, if I remember rightly. Complete with nets and the little glass
float balls. Great place. But if you REALLY wanted atmosphere with
your Greek food, you had to go to the Athens Bar and Grill on McCarty.

>
>Hamburgers by Gourmet - various locations (I recall the one at Yoakum
>and Alabama the best). You placed your order from your table via an
>old-timey telephone. I can still taste their Hickory Burger.
>
>Rolando's Burger Factory - various locations. Always good - and cheap!
>

As a student at Rice, I was intimately familiar with both of these.
Always in good taste.

And the most "restaurants of yore" choice for me would have to be Capri
Pizza on Shepherd at Greenbriar. Beer so cold there was usually ice
floating on top, and pizza so greasy you needed that cold beer...

Wendy W.

Gort

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Aug 20, 2002, 8:28:24 AM8/20/02
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You forgot the best "thin" crust pizza of all time:

Panjo's

I think they had two locations, one in Town and Coutry Mall and one near
Briargrove on Winrock.


Thunder

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Aug 20, 2002, 8:30:01 AM8/20/02
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I've had a burger or two at Roznovsky's, and frankly, I didn't see the big
deal. It tasted pretty much like any other burger I've eaten.....

What IS the big deal with this place?

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Jack Tyler

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> I've had a burger or two at Roznovsky's, and frankly, I didn't see the big
> deal. It tasted pretty much like any other burger I've eaten.....
>
> What IS the big deal with this place?
>
A couple of friends and I were headed to Roz's yesterday and wondered that
same thing as we drove by Bubba's on Wescott. We stopped and ate at
Bubba's. The burgers are just fine there.

Jack Tyler


lance hirsch

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Aug 20, 2002, 10:42:01 AM8/20/02
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I lived in South Park (on Mountbatten) until I was five (1969) and remember
going to Panjo's but I certainly don't recall where it was. However, I'm
sure my dad wouldn't have driven to either of those locations so there had
to be more than two. We went there after Ball games at some fields on
Belfort.

There was an indoor slot car racing track in the same shopping center!

South Park Blvd. is now MLK Blvd.

Lance
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Frank Matthews

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Aug 20, 2002, 11:57:53 AM8/20/02
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It's a run down old neighborhood burger shack that server big greasy
burgers. It's one of the few historical things left in Houston.

Frank Matthews

Chris Pando

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Aug 20, 2002, 12:32:23 PM8/20/02
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:30:01 GMT, "Thunder"
<thu...@goaway.houston.rr.com> wrote:

>I've had a burger or two at Roznovsky's, and frankly, I didn't see the big
>deal. It tasted pretty much like any other burger I've eaten.....
>
>What IS the big deal with this place?
>

It's the closest thing to Burgerville #2 that I can find.

Chris


Chris Dieckmann

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Aug 20, 2002, 1:17:32 PM8/20/02
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In article <dDq89.313552$q53.10...@twister.austin.rr.com>,
thu...@goaway.houston.rr.com says...

> I've had a burger or two at Roznovsky's, and frankly, I didn't see the big
> deal. It tasted pretty much like any other burger I've eaten.....

Your comment could be applied to any of Houston's burger emporiums, which
is what you seem to be saying. Do you find anything to distinguish one
from another? As the Best Burger thread that rears its ugly head from
time to time indicates, it's as subjective as any other Best In Show
debate. Taking up the gauntlet for my favorite, I used to eat at the
Roznovsky's on Westcott and Feagan and at the old schoolhouse on Abbott
fairly regularly before they disappeared. A Roznovsky's Double-Double is
the archetype for this sandwich: the burgers are the right size for the
bun, the bun is properly toasted, and the cheese is thoroughly melted and
acts as an both adhesive for the toppings and a gooey, lubricating foil
to the hot bites of beef in your mouth. The seasonings on the burger
aren't overdone and the toppings stay on (my way: no pickles - mayo, no
mustard). The double-double is the perfect size for eating as well,
fitting nicely into your hand and holding together as you alternate bites
with your fries. Roznovsky's fries are perfect examples of the
institutional fry: a bit thicker than fast food fries, golden outside
yielding to a tongue-searing, fluffy white interior. No crunchy, overly
oily fries here. Add in the neighborhood, folks-who-always-seem-to-be-
there atmosphere and the Decor By Entropy and you have it. Wait, add in
a very fair price and then you have it.

I also like other burgers around town, but have my beefs (pardon the
pun): Lankford Grocery is good but they have a heavy hand with the black
pepper, their fries, in a word, suck (greasy inside, crunchy outside,
frequently ends 'n pieces) and at lunchtime the atmosphere is like New
Otto's...lots of downtowners in ties and suspenders waiting in line,
noisy and physically uncomfortable. Better later on or on Saturday when
it's more neighborhood-oriented. New Orleans Po Boy is also great, but
the owner has a thing about messing up the griddle with cheese so the
cold, extra-thick slabs of cheese never quite melt. They also seem quite
fond of using the most pungent onion they can find and so the whole
sandwich never quite fuses. Points off for krinkle-cut fries. I also
like Miller's but am of the opinion that when you're in need, you should
be able to order a burger and fries for 5.00, which is impossible there.
Bellaire Broiler Burger and its neighbor, Roadster Grill are fine too,
but also push the price envelope depending on your order. Roadster is
erratic on cooking their fries, Bellaire uses krinkle-cuts to my memory
and both, in my highly subjective assessment, could be accused of trying
to do too much with a burger. Otto's is OK, but if people are
complaining that Roznovsky's is greasy... Finally, I do like MyTi-
Burgers, which don't get a lot of acknowledgement here.

RonDL

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Aug 20, 2002, 3:18:38 PM8/20/02
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How about:

Across The Street...was on Hilcroft...used to order your food from the table
phone...great burgers

Delmonicos...Not the one in the Galleria hotel...great family italian food

Green Parrot...Family style fried chicken...if we were good, we got their jello
w/ a pear in the middle and cottage cheese (sounds disgusting but it was good)
and then we'd watch the peacocks.

Hebert's Ritz...use to go there w/ my grandparents...great steaks

And of course Houston's most famous restaurant of lore...Sonny Looks

Ron.

Paul

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I really liked Yamin's pizza too.

And then there was Village Inn Pizza in Westbury Square. I don't remember
that the pizza was all that great, but the place was a fun hangout back in
the early '70s.

Paul


Paul

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Kelly Younger

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Aug 20, 2002, 7:49:37 PM8/20/02
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Jeremy Goodwin wrote:
>
> Rovz' has gone down hill recently. Myti on 34th is well
> worth the visit, and quite an interesting place to go
> and read a book.

> Chris Dieckmann wrote:
> > Finally, I do like MyTi-
> > Burgers, which don't get a lot of acknowledgement here.

Yeah, and you damn well better bring a thick one. "Magister Ludi" (Das
Glasperlenspiel) by Hermann Hesse comes to mind. You can probably finish
it before you get your burger.
The burgers are good, though a little overpriced, but, damn, it takes
f..o..r..e..v..e..r.
My favorite is the Cafe Roma Bacon Cheeseburger. First Floor, Medical
Place at St. Joseph Hospital. I'm not saying it's worth a special trip,
but *I* make it occasionally. If you're down there for some reason or
another, you can't beat it.
--
Kelly Younger

Gulffritallary

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>Finally, I do like MyTi-
>Burgers, which don't get a lot of acknowledgement here.
>

I'm also a mytiburger fan. You might want to try Someburger at llth and
Studemont. Be sure to try one of the shakes also. As for burger joints of
yore - I remember Mytibite on Shepherd near the Bookstop. Mini-burgers without
bun that were very tasty.

kerr

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Wow, nice mini-reviews!
What about Poppa-Burger on N.Main?
Kerr.

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Jack Tyler

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Sally and I had dinner last night with Sonny and Carole Look at Massa's.
Sonny has had a pretty severe stroke.... has been in a wheel chair for some
time and has difficulty speaking... but we had a mini-version of this thread
during dinner and loved it. I DO really miss his restaurants and related to
him an experience that I had in his restaurant on Westheimer where, after
arguing with the host about being wanting to be seated in the "club" so I
could have a cocktail with dinner, we were finally seated there. The waiter
brought a tray of drinks for us and a table behind us. As he placed the
drinks before a guest at the other table, he spilled the entire tray of
drinks down my back. Someone took my jacket off to dry it... and while I
sat there trying to simmer down from the incident, the manager came over and
told me that they required jackets there... and I would have to leave. I
explained the problem and the evening went OK... but Sonny sent me a letter
of apology with a gift certificate for a dinner for two, which we used at
the location on South Main. As the waiter served my salad... he spilled the
entire salad in my lap. Dinner went well after that.

Jack Tyler

>
> Ron.


Chris Dieckmann

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In article <sYC89.316704$q53.10...@twister.austin.rr.com>,
rke...@houston.rr.kom says...

> Wow, nice mini-reviews!
> What about Poppa-Burger on N.Main?
> Kerr.

I do like Poppa Burger as well: proper french fries on my visits and a
well-constructed sandwich. Based on taste and mouthfeel, I think the
meat they use, however, is a small step down in quality from other
places... at least that's the feeling I can't seem to shake whenever I've
eaten there.

Albert Nurick

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Kennon Baird wrote:
> Mel's BBQ - A tiny little place just west of far South Main. Mel was
> always there.

Was Mel's right by a railroad track, and was there a guy called Bunny
that worked there all the time?

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Jack Sloan

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Aug 21, 2002, 4:25:47 PM8/21/02
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I must've sat at the same table in Zorba's because I have the same foot
story. The seafood was excellent and cheap.A really great place...Met both
my criteria.
Jack

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Tom Spillman

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LOL...

Was Sonny's stroke before or after hearing of the multiple disasters to a
customer at one of his restaurants?

Regards...

Tom

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Jack Tyler

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> LOL...
>
> Was Sonny's stroke before or after hearing of the multiple disasters to a
> customer at one of his restaurants?
>
> Regards...
>
> Tom

Long before... although, he almost had another last night after hearing
about those that affected me.

Jack Tyler


Kelly Younger

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Aug 21, 2002, 7:37:43 PM8/21/02
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Jack Sloan wrote:
>
> I must've sat at the same table in Zorba's because I have the same foot
> story. The seafood was excellent and cheap.A really great place...Met both
> my criteria.
> Jack

> >


> > Zorba's - Tuam @ Helena. In '72, it was a small, overcrowded,
> > crumbling shack (my foot actually went through the floor one night) -
> > but what a feed! Later, they built a larger place at the same
> > location, but it wasn't the same.

Actually the new location was on Fairview, just west of Harry's. I used
to *live* at Zorba's, Harry's, Phil's (On Richmond) and Leo's (on
Shepherd). Damn! I'm spotting a trend!
--
Kelly Younger

kerr

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Aug 21, 2002, 8:34:01 PM8/21/02
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You must be the foremost hamburger expert in the group. Me? I haven't had
a burger in years, but I admire your style.
Kerr.


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Lee S.

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I concur. A great burger.


cheers

Lee S.

who really likes their hot turkey sandwiches too!!

Kennon Baird

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Aug 21, 2002, 9:47:03 PM8/21/02
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I don't remember Bunny, but I think perhaps it might have been on
Willowbend, circa 1974, not far from some tracks.

KB

Kennon Baird

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"Paul" <paulDONTSP...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Are you related to a David Baird?


Nope.

KB

john

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In article <M5M89.320775$q53.10...@twister.austin.rr.com>,
"Jack Tyler" <market...@houston.rr.com> wrote:

> Sally and I had dinner last night with Sonny and Carole Look at Massa's.
> Sonny has had a pretty severe stroke.... has been in a wheel chair for some
> time and has difficulty speaking... but we had a mini-version of this thread
> during dinner and loved it.

that is so great that Sony is alive. talk about a link to the past, the
knight on the horse for the restaurant on Westhiemer which is now the
Palm was classic kitsch, and the 4 flavored butters and the ICE COLD
salad....... heheheh ahh the memories of foodstuffs

now here are a couple or three that you have to be old time houston to
know :

Bud Bigelowes Steak House on Westheimer, the site is now mini storage,
next to the old Molinas which moved down the street to the old Boston
Sea Party bldg. Bigelows made homemade bread, i helped as a kid and it
was one of the real deals. To that end, if you want a steak in Houston,
Brenners on Katy Fwy is the last remaining vestige of the glory days,
and simply kicks azz on anything else in town.

2Ks. Burgers and ICe Cream parlor.
Others will have mentioned it, but it wasn't in this thread. In the
Sakowitz center on Post Oak. You don't remember Sakowitz ? You are
new.... you probably think the Bellaire Broiler Burger wasn't
Brittain's Broiler Burger in a previous life. Place hasn't changed much
at all, and i'm glad. It's like going to Burbank, the land that time
forgot; step in and it's 1962 again.

Across the Street. hamburgers and such, also ordered over the phone
like Gourmet. ( Gawd, Hamburgers by Gourmet was *good*) Across the
Street was on Hillcroft, next door to the original Jack in the Box, when
it was striclty a drive thru. Great burgers and onion rings in the
early 70s.

And last but not least, especially in light of the recent HPD follies at
Kmart and James Coney Island and Sonic;;;

Bill Williams Chicken in the Rough

a classic drive in with curb service on Main and Fannin, was destroyed
to expand the Med Ctr circa 1972, it had great food and was a mecca for
street racing in the old days. AFter Saturday night at Houston
International Speedway, folks would meet back there for some money races
on the empyt streets out by the Dome. Murworth was dead empty with
nothing around it.

Bill Willimas also had later on the Steakhouse in the Sky, advertised
all night long on KILT 610 from 12midnite to 6 am.

I can come up with more, but tell me some folks remember these gems, or
I really am gettin' to damn old

jm

Jay P Francis

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The basement of downtown Foley's for hot dogs. They trimmed the sides of the
buns before toasting them. Superior to James's Coney Island and sorely missed.
I don't think I've ever seen any other establishment trim their buns like that
and it is a great trick.

Aje RavenStar

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> And then there was Village Inn Pizza in Westbury Square. I don't remember
> that the pizza was all that great, but the place was a fun hangout back in
> the early '70s.
>
> Paul

My lady remembers that place, and loved it. They had a huge old bathtub
they used for the salad bar.


Aje RavenStar

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"Paul" <paulDONTSP...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> And then there was Village Inn Pizza in Westbury Square. I don't remember
> that the pizza was all that great, but the place was a fun hangout back in
> the early '70s.
>
> Paul

My lady also wonders if you remember Rumpleheimers (sp?), the ice cream shop
in there.

Which reminds me of my childhood favorite ice cream shop. It was on or
close to the triangle where North Main, Studewood, and 20th/Calvacade came
together just on the edge of the Heights, across from Akin's Pharmacy. I
have no idea what the name of it was, but was a close enough walk for my
grandfather from his house to take us way back when. Didn't survive into
the 70's, though, I don't think. Last time I saw it, it was an auto parts
place.


Todd Brooks

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Wasn't there a Victoria's Station restaurant or something to that effect
over near Greenspoint mall. It was a restaurant that was inside a couple of
traincars? I remember being taken there for my birthday when I was young
when I was fascinated with trains (like every kid was when the were that
age).

todd


Todd Brooks

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Aug 22, 2002, 1:23:53 AM8/22/02
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Not sure I would call it a fetish...I was just reminiscing about a
restaurant "of yore".
:D

I didn't realize they had more than one restaurant, though. Actually, come
to think of it, I was over there in that area just a while ago and I
remember seeing that store and remarked to my wife that I remember going to
Victoria's Station at Greenspoint when I was a kid. funny.

todd

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> > Wasn't there a Victoria's Station restaurant or something to that effect
> > over near Greenspoint mall. It was a restaurant that was inside a
couple of
> > traincars?
>

> If you have a Victoria's Station fetish, you can see the shell of their
> location at South Main and Kirby that current houses a branch Droubi's
> Imports.


Chris Dieckmann

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> Wasn't there a Victoria's Station restaurant or something to that effect
> over near Greenspoint mall. It was a restaurant that was inside a couple of
> traincars?

If you have a Victoria's Station fetish, you can see the shell of their

stephen s.

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Todd:

Did you get to sit in the two-leveled caboose?

I, as a child, was brought to the one in Boston for a special occasion
and we did not sit in the caboose. I guess they didn't really love
us. :)

stephen

Todd Brooks

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Aug 22, 2002, 6:51:04 AM8/22/02
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Truthfully, I don't remember. I remember walking through the restaurant to
our table but that was about it. I was really young when I went (5yrs old
or so), so I don't remember much of the experience unfortunately. Guess
I'll have to ask the folks next time I talk to them.

Regards,

todd

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Jack Tyler

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> In article <M5M89.320775$q53.10...@twister.austin.rr.com>,
> "Jack Tyler" <market...@houston.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Sally and I had dinner last night with Sonny and Carole Look at Massa's.
> > Sonny has had a pretty severe stroke.... has been in a wheel chair for
some
> > time and has difficulty speaking... but we had a mini-version of this
thread
> > during dinner and loved it.
>
> that is so great that Sony is alive. talk about a link to the past, the
> knight on the horse for the restaurant on Westhiemer which is now the
> Palm was classic kitsch, and the 4 flavored butters and the ICE COLD
> salad....... heheheh ahh the memories of foodstuffs
>
> now here are a couple or three that you have to be old time houston to
> know :
>
> Bud Bigelowes Steak House on Westheimer, the site is now mini storage,
> next to the old Molinas which moved down the street to the old Boston
> Sea Party bldg. Bigelows made homemade bread, i helped as a kid and it
> was one of the real deals. To that end, if you want a steak in Houston,
> Brenners on Katy Fwy is the last remaining vestige of the glory days,
> and simply kicks azz on anything else in town.
>
> 2Ks. Burgers and ICe Cream parlor.
> Others will have mentioned it, but it wasn't in this thread. In the
> Sakowitz center on Post Oak. You don't remember Sakowitz ?

We used to enjoy the gumbo at Sakowitz's Sky Terrace.... my sister was a
model there at the luncheon fashion shows while the ladies who lunch
lunched... and Bobby Sakowitz had his legendary wine auctions at the Post
Oak locations. My wife, Sally, visits Ann Sakowitz (Bobby's mom) at her
condo on Woodway from time to time, just to chat about the Houston of those
years As an aside, Ann feels that the best sushi in Houston is at Kurumaya
at the corner of Memorial and Dairy Ashford,

Jack Tyler

lance hirsch

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Aug 22, 2002, 9:32:34 AM8/22/02
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I was wrong about Panjo's - I was thinking of Shakey's. I actually woke
myself up last night when that thought came in my head.

I think the banjo at Shakey's tricked my brain into thinking Panjo's?

Lance
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of them seemed to come from Texas."
Casino Royale. Chapter VII

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> I lived in South Park (on Mountbatten) until I was five (1969) and
remember
> going to Panjo's but I certainly don't recall where it was. However, I'm
> sure my dad wouldn't have driven to either of those locations so there had
> to be more than two. We went there after Ball games at some fields on
> Belfort.
>
> There was an indoor slot car racing track in the same shopping center!
>
> South Park Blvd. is now MLK Blvd.
>
> Lance
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> "...Bond reflected that good Americans were fine people and that most
> of them seemed to come from Texas."
> Casino Royale. Chapter VII

Hane

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Your mention of Leo's reminded me of something I heard last night. Star
Pizza on Waugh is moving to the old Leo's place next to Rockefeller's.
The Star man bought all that land and Rockefeller's as well.


Harry Parker

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Aug 22, 2002, 2:48:10 PM8/22/02
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Bud Bigelowes Steak House had a great oyster stew with lots of black pepper
but no milk/cream.

--
Harry Parker
Houston Restaurant & Dining Guide
http://www.b4-u-eat.com


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K. B. Rook

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Aug 22, 2002, 3:19:12 PM8/22/02
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I have been hearing this story for what seems like over a year. Anybody
have any information on when this is supposed to happen?

Paul

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"Aje RavenStar" <whine...@wt.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Paul" <paulDONTSP...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:ajub8u$rab$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> > And then there was Village Inn Pizza in Westbury Square. I don't
remember
> > that the pizza was all that great, but the place was a fun hangout back
in
> > the early '70s.
> >
> > Paul
>
> My lady also wonders if you remember Rumpleheimers (sp?), the ice cream
shop
> in there.

I do remember it. Way at the back of the shopping center. My dad took us
kids there once when I was maybe 10. We asked him where we were going and he
said, "Rumpleheimer's." We thought he was making that name up!

Another place I remember was a restaurant on the east side of Westbury
Square, kind of where Home Depot is now. I think it was the Bull and Anchor
or something like that. Pretty good food, the one time I went there.

>
> Which reminds me of my childhood favorite ice cream shop. It was on or
> close to the triangle where North Main, Studewood, and 20th/Calvacade came
> together just on the edge of the Heights, across from Akin's Pharmacy. I
> have no idea what the name of it was, but was a close enough walk for my
> grandfather from his house to take us way back when. Didn't survive into
> the 70's, though, I don't think. Last time I saw it, it was an auto parts
> place.
>

Don't know about that one. I led a pretty sheltered childhood -- didn't get
out of the southwest part of town much.

Paul


Paul

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"Chris Dieckmann" <chen...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No fetish, but I did go there for a pre-prom dinner or two back in the day.
Actually, I think I went to that one and also one that was out Richmond a
little ways, around Chimney Rock or Hillcroft, IIRC.

Speaking of which -- also out that way was what I think was the first
Chili's in Houston. It was a cooler place back then.

Paul


Dave Garrett

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Aug 22, 2002, 4:29:27 PM8/22/02
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In article <3D65391A...@jeanneret.com>, KBR...@jeanneret.com
says...

And perhaps more importantly, what they intend to do with Rockefeller's?
I really miss that place, and fondly remember the many great shows I saw
there. It seems like no one's really filled the niche Rockefeller's once
occupied for live music acts that fit in somewhere between the smaller
clubs and the large arena-sized venues.

Dave

Patrick L. Humphrey

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Aug 22, 2002, 4:57:29 PM8/22/02
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"Paul" <paulDONTSP...@mindspring.com> writes:

>"Aje RavenStar" <whine...@wt.net> wrote in message
>news:3d64...@sys13.hou.wt.net...

>> "Paul" <paulDONTSP...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:ajub8u$rab$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
>> > And then there was Village Inn Pizza in Westbury Square. I don't remember
>> > that the pizza was all that great, but the place was a fun hangout back in
>> > the early '70s.
>> >
>> > Paul

>> My lady also wonders if you remember Rumpleheimers (sp?), the ice cream shop
>> in there.

>I do remember it. Way at the back of the shopping center. My dad took us
>kids there once when I was maybe 10. We asked him where we were going and he
>said, "Rumpleheimer's." We thought he was making that name up!

I lived in Westbury about six blocks from the Square, the first year we lived
in Houston -- Brittain's Broiler Burgers at the west end of the shopping
center, with the Weingartens flanked by Mading Dugan Rexall to the west and
the TG&Y to the east, with Rumpleheimer's Ice Cream up at the top of the
"hill" the Square portion was built on, with the big vacant lot between the
shopping center and Chimney Rock where there were fireworks on the Fourth up
until I was in college.

>Another place I remember was a restaurant on the east side of Westbury
>Square, kind of where Home Depot is now. I think it was the Bull and Anchor
>or something like that. Pretty good food, the one time I went there.

The east side was where the TG&Y was, unless you mean the east side of the
Square itself...where Village Inn Pizza was in the '70s? I remember a
restaurant there, but like you, can't remember the name.

>> Which reminds me of my childhood favorite ice cream shop. It was on or
>> close to the triangle where North Main, Studewood, and 20th/Calvacade came
>> together just on the edge of the Heights, across from Akin's Pharmacy. I
>> have no idea what the name of it was, but was a close enough walk for my
>> grandfather from his house to take us way back when. Didn't survive into
>> the 70's, though, I don't think. Last time I saw it, it was an auto parts
>> place.

>Don't know about that one. I led a pretty sheltered childhood -- didn't get
>out of the southwest part of town much.

That first year in Westbury, at the ripe old age of ten, I was busy exploring
the southwest side of town on a bicycle -- and that was back before there was
a Fondren Southwest, or even a paved Fondren Road south of Beechnut...I made
frequent trips up to Sharpstown Center to watch the Arena Theater being built,
because of the way it was built -- concrete poured over a mound of dirt, after
which the dirt was excavated. In 1965, that was not the normal way of putting
buildings up...

--PLH, whose first exposure to Jack In The Box was at the location on the
opposite corner of Chimney Rock & Bellfort from Westbury Square

kerr

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> And perhaps more importantly, what they intend to do with Rockefeller's?

Plenty of private parties there. Almost any weekend night and something's
going on inside that place.
Kerr.


Frank Matthews

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Aug 22, 2002, 8:42:09 PM8/22/02
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My memory says Spring 2003. But that date is a year old. I don't know
the current prediction

Frank Matthews

Frank Matthews

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Aug 22, 2002, 8:40:52 PM8/22/02
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I don't know about the Rockefellers space but Star told folks a year or
so ago that they were moving around the corner. That was why the
restaurant there closed.

Frank Matthews

Hane

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"Paul" <paulDONTSP...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Chris Dieckmann" <chen...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.17ce2ea19...@news.rice.edu...
> >
> > If you have a Victoria's Station fetish, you can see the shell of
their
> > location at South Main and Kirby that current houses a branch
Droubi's
> > Imports.
>
> No fetish, but I did go there for a pre-prom dinner or two back in the
day.
> Actually, I think I went to that one and also one that was out
Richmond a
> little ways, around Chimney Rock or Hillcroft, IIRC.

That was The Railhead on Richmond at Unity. I really miss that one. They
had a wonderful cheese soup with tiny diced carrots in it and were
famous for their excellent prime rib. It was roomier and more elegant
than the Victoria Station but VS was in town first, I think. That
location is now a huge dance hall that's changed names quite a few times
(doesn't calling it a dance hall date ME).


Albert Nurick

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Aug 23, 2002, 9:55:18 PM8/23/02
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Kennon Baird wrote:
> I don't remember Bunny, but I think perhaps it might have been on
> Willowbend, circa 1974, not far from some tracks.

That's the spot! One of my parents' favorite BBQ places; Dad always
called it "Mel and Bunny's", which was odd to me because Bunny was
not mentioned on the sign, but was always working there.

Fun place, and wonderful BBQ, as I recall.

--
Albert Nurick
alb...@nurick.com
www.nurick.com

ama...@postoffice.swbell.net

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Hi,
I remember Alfred's. I loved their cheesecake and the matzo soup was
great
too.

Rolondo's Burger Factory had great burgers and french fries that were
supposed
to have been fried in peanut oil. Back in those days that was an oddity.
The one over off 59 close to the channel 2 studios had a bar upstairs. My
favorite one however was the one in Meyerland.

Sorry but my memories of Hamburgers by Gourmet aren't good ones. I ate
there twice and got food poisoning both times so I quit eating there.

Remember Yammins and Steffano's? They had a wonderful sub sandwich with
tons of sautéed mushrooms.

What about Zappo's that used to be across from Meyerland? They were much
better than Schlotzky's I thought.

One of my favorite all time places to eat back then was Don the
Beachcomber on Gessner. Remember the torch on top? There were several
good places to eat in that block including The Hungry Tiger and Lillian's
Masion d' Crepes.

Thanks for the mental stroll down memory lane!

Amanda


Kennon Baird wrote:

> Anybody remember these?:


>
> Zorba's - Tuam @ Helena. In '72, it was a small, overcrowded,
> crumbling shack (my foot actually went through the floor one night) -
> but what a feed! Later, they built a larger place at the same
> location, but it wasn't the same.
>

> Valian's Steak House - S. Main, across from where The Shamrock Hotel
> was. I remember the ceiling was blue, with painted stars.
>
> Alfred's in The Village - Wonderful soups and breads. Just the thing
> to satisfy hungry student types.
>
> The Cellar Door on Stella Link - This was my "special" restaurant when
> I was young and "in love".
>
> Hamburgers by Gourmet - various locations (I recall the one at Yoakum
> and Alabama the best). You placed your order from your table via an
> old-timey telephone. I can still taste their Hickory Burger.
>
> Rolando's Burger Factory - various locations. Always good - and cheap!


>
> Mel's BBQ - A tiny little place just west of far South Main. Mel was
> always there.
>

> Kennon

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