Artificial flavorings in Bluebell Ice Cream
S. Rex
its ice creams? Other premium brands (such as Breyer's) do not do
this and they remain competetive price-wise. Our family tries to stay
away from artificial ingredients as much as possible, and when there
are options we always go for "all-natural". I too once believed that
Bluebell Ice Cream was one of the "Basic Texas Food Groups." It took
the experience of living on both the West and East Coasts, where I
discovered other brands that don't use artificial ingredients, to make
me realize that Bluebell perhaps does not live up to its exalted
reputation.
Jordan Mills
:)
No idea, but I want to know more.
-- Jordan
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Jack Tyler
I'm not aware that Blue Bell has ever claimed to use no artificial
flavoring, or other ingredients. I've always enjoyed it, though, and now
that it's been pointed out to me, probably *still* will. However, IMHO,
Blue Bell compares favorably with Breyer's. I get the feeling that there's
a lot of air in Breyer's. That may not be true, but the texture gives me
that feeling. Frankly, of all of them, I like Hygeia ( I think that looks
like it's spelled wrong). I assume it's all fake inside, too, though.
Jack Tyler
kyle littlefield
should first understand how "artificial and natural flavorings" are
derived. You might come to understand why "all natural" ingredients may
not be all that desirable.
Check out this very interesting excerpt from the book Fast Food Nation:
http://www.rense.com/general7/whyy.htm
From The Atlantic Monthly
Why McDonald's Fries Taste So Good
By Eric Schlosser
Excerpt From Eric Schlosser's new book
'Fast Food Nation' (Houghton-Mifflin, 2001)
Jeremy Goodwin
Mc's fries are predominantly potato. The reason they
cannot use the word potato in the advertizing is that
the fries contain mainly corn starch.
JJ
Kerr
> away from artificial ingredients as much as possible, and when there
> are options we always go for "all-natural".
Poison ivy is all natural. So are shark bites & botulism. However sun-tan
lotion is made with artificial ingredients....go figure.
Kerr.
Eid Redrum
Who cares why they do? You know, in the old days, before all these
"horrible" artificial ingredients, people lived to an average age of
about 50. Now, it's about 75. Go figure.
Maybe you are doing your family more harm than good with your irrational
fear of artificial ingredients. The age of Aquarius is over, my friend.
Bruce Reistle
Bluebell is the Shiner Bock of ice cream. Low quality, cheap
ingredients, but embraced for whatever reasons.
Bruce Reistle
Danzilla
wrote:
Oh goody, logic... NOT. That was meant as a joke, right? I really
hope so. To try and suggest that the use of artificial ingredients
must be the reason the average lifespan is increased is very funny.
That can only be based on your opinion that nothing else has
changed/advanced that might account for a increased lifespan. Hey,
was that you on "street smarts" last night? Lifespans might be up,
but it's too bad about what's happening to reasoning ability.
H Newcomb
"Bruce Reistle" <brei...@pdq.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Bluebell is the Shiner Bock of ice cream. Low quality, cheap
> ingredients, but embraced for whatever reasons.
>
> Bruce Reistle
You sure you're not thinking about Lone Star?
Bill Suspect
> ingredients, but embraced for whatever reasons.
I like Blue Bell and Shiner Bock for one specific reason... they taste good.
Bill
Master of the Obvious
C. Briden
Cindy
Jack Tyler
Jack
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Bruce Reistle
Lone Star is certainly a low quality beer, lower that Shiner
Bock. But in the grand scheme of things, Shiner Bock is a
corny lager that happens to be brown in color.
Bruce Reistle
Bruce Reistle
Bill Suspect wrote:
>
> I like Blue Bell and Shiner Bock for one specific reason... they taste good.
Actually, they don't taste good. For about the same price as
Shiner Bock, you could get Spaten Optimator; buy some of each
and compare.
What is the saying? "Had I not seen such riches, I wouldn't
have realized my poverty" - or something like that. Keep
sucking down the swill, at least it has alcohol.
Bruce Reistle
Larry Kessler
Hard to take someone seriously whose pseudonym is "murder die"
backwards...
Arthur Forman
from the Northeast. It is certainly not up to the quality of Breyers
(originally a Philly outfit, lost a bit when they moved to midwest plants)
whose mint chocolate chip remains a paragon of mass market ice cream, IMHO.
For density and luxury ice creams Hagen Daz takes the prize, though their
pistachio oddly only has chips in it so I must give the nod to Ben & Jerry's
for that flavor, as they use whole nuts. For the ultimate in ice creams,
one must travel to Philadelphia's Reading Terminal Market where LD Bassett,
Inc. has been making ne plus ultra ice cream since before the War of Yankee
Aggression. Their french vanilla is a gustatory orgasm.
How can any of you extoll the virtues of artificial flavors and be seriously
interested in food? Is vanillin ever the match for vanilla? Tang for orange
juice?? Oleo margarine for butter??? Emulsifiers are no substitute for
cream or egg yolks either. Ice cream should melt smoothly and not leave a
gummy sensation on the tongue as does Bluebell.
I suspect this will cause some flaming responses, given the veneration of
Bluebell in these parts. Texans hold Bluebell just slightly less than the
Alamo in reverence. I simply don't understand it.
Mattress.Tester
>Bluebell has to be one of my great disappointments since moving to Houston
>from the Northeast. It is certainly not up to the quality of Breyers
>(originally a Philly outfit, lost a bit when they moved to midwest plants)
>whose mint chocolate chip remains a paragon of mass market ice cream, IMHO.
You can buy Breyers from Kroger.
Bruce Reistle
Arthur Forman wrote:
>
> How can any of you extoll the virtues of artificial flavors and be seriously
> interested in food? Is vanillin ever the match for vanilla? Tang for orange
> juice?? Oleo margarine for butter??? Emulsifiers are no substitute for
> cream or egg yolks either. Ice cream should melt smoothly and not leave a
> gummy sensation on the tongue as does Bluebell.
Well said, indeed.
Bruce Reistle
Jack Tyler
Arthur Forman <afor...@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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I'm proud of the things that Texas has to offer that are superior to
offerings from other states, but I hold no reverence for Texas institutions
that haven't improved, or won't improve to match or surpass the competition.
However, in your list of examples of artificial flavors in food, don't you
think that listing oleo as a substitute for butter is a little extreme? You
have a little more than artificial flavor working there.
Jack
>
>
Jack Tyler
exotic and desirable (gosh, it it were only available here).... I remember
how we all wished we could get Coor's Beer here. It came... we saw... we
went back to whatever we were drinking.
Jack
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Mattress.Tester
ashamed of. I always think of Lone Star first when it comes to Texas Beers.
On the subject of things made better in the N.E., I think a better example
might be Italian Bread, ever had Italian Bread up North? If you know any
place in Texas where they make bread like that I'd love to know where.
>===== Original Message From "Jack Tyler" <market...@ix.netcom.com> =====
Bill Suspect
Bell and Shiner Bock taste good, don't even try to tell me otherwise.
Whats the point?
For the record, my fave beer is Straub. Sold only in Ohio and
Pennsylvania, it's almost worth the trip.
Bill
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Bruce Reistle
"Mattress.Tester" wrote:
>
> Coors is pretty bland and flavorless, and Texas Beers are nothing to be
> ashamed of. I always think of Lone Star first when it comes to Texas Beers.
I'm pretty sure Lone Star is not a Texas beer. I'm not sure
who brews it now, but the proceeds probably go to a
corporation in the midwest.
But I'm not here to criticize all that is Texas. I consider
Houston to be a great food city.
Bruce Reistle
Jack Sloan
to stroh's. Somebody here will correct me if I'm wrong about to whom it
was sold.
ama...@postoffice.swbell.net
Lone Star is brewed/owned by Pabst. The brewery is in San Antonio.
If you're interested in it check out the www.pabst.com website.
Amanda
Mattress.Tester
>===== Original Message From ama...@swbell.net =====
Wingman
Stroh's bought up Heileman, Pabst then bought up Stroh's. I think the
beer industry in the US is basically now 4 companies: Anheuser-Busch,
Miller, Coors and Pabst. Everything else appears to be regional.
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 21:41:43 -0500, ama...@postoffice.swbell.net
wrote:
Professor Vonroach
wrote:
> I'm pretty sure Lone Star is not a Texas beer.
You're pretty wrong . Lone Star was brewed in San Antonio. Grand Prize
in Houston until it closed. Southern Select in Galveston until sold to
Greisidicke (?) folks of St. Louis. Shiner in Shiner Texas cave still
pumping out the suds.
Professor Vonroach
wrote:
>The "begat"'s kind of go like this, G. Heileman bought up Lone Star,
>Stroh's bought up Heileman, Pabst then bought up Stroh's. I think the
>beer industry in the US is basically now 4 companies: Anheuser-Busch,
>Miller, Coors and Pabst. Everything else appears to be regional.
>
Then you equate the stuff they bottle in Milwaukee and that which
comes from San Antonio? And the stuff they make in St. Louis with that
which comes from Houston. Where did Pearl get lost in this discussion?
What of all those deceptively labeled `Lite'. Incidentally, isn't
`Miller' a division of Phillip Morris Co.? So that eliminates another
from your list. Financial problems have been severe and long at Coors,
I don't know if they are still independent? Pabst apparently has good
business management and advertising, the beer has always been lousy.
Bruce Reistle
I wouldn't consider Lone Star a Texas beer. Yeah, Lone Star
is brewed in Texas, kind of like Krispy Kreme donuts are baked
in Texas. Anyway, Lone Star is merely a label, bought and
sold, and whatever "beer" that happens to be in the bottle is
irrelevant.
Bruce Reistle
Bruce Reistle
Bill Suspect wrote:
>
> Jesus, just shut up. If _I_ (thats me, myself only) think that Blue
> Bell and Shiner Bock taste good, don't even try to tell me otherwise.
> Whats the point?
Jesus here: Don't get me wrong, but the entire point of this
group is to discuss *opinions* about food (and drink).
Ideally, we discuss what we like and don't like, and try to
explain why.
If you like Blue Bell and Shiner Bock, then I envy your
dedication to simplicity and economics, and your ability to
conform.
Bruce Reistle
Steve Cutchen
<DDD67F4EEFD0F578.9AD05FBA...@lp.airnews.net>, Bruce
Reistle <brei...@pdq.net> wrote:
My understanding is that Lone Star is still a Texas beer in that it is made
here like it was and by the recipies it was made by back when it was an
independent brewery.
Back in the late 80's, I had several colleagues visiting from Belgium (land
of 1500 beer varieties), and they said that Lone Star was their favorite
'pils'-type beer. They thought the high volume American beers had no
flavor.
---Steve
Bruce Reistle
Steve Cutchen wrote:
> >
> My understanding is that Lone Star is still a Texas beer in that it is made
> here like it was and by the recipies it was made by back when it was an
> independent brewery.
>
> Back in the late 80's, I had several colleagues visiting from Belgium (land
> of 1500 beer varieties), and they said that Lone Star was their favorite
> 'pils'-type beer. They thought the high volume American beers had no
> flavor.
The current rendition of Lone Star is not considered a quality
pilsner by anyone who knows beer.
You do not know beer, nor do your friends from Belgium. Can
you name a world-class Belgian pilsner? Belgian lager?
Belgium is the Disneyland of beer, but it aint lagers.
Bruce Reistle
ama...@postoffice.swbell.net
;-)
just kidding
Amanda
Steve Cutchen
<45EBADC42FD02D42.5AC6208E...@lp.airnews.net>, Bruce
Reistle <brei...@pdq.net> wrote:
Why get rude when you state you opinion?
<sigh>
Professor Vonroach
wrote:
>The current rendition of Lone Star is not considered a quality
>pilsner by anyone who knows beer.
>
>You do not know beer, nor do your friends from Belgium. Can
>you name a world-class Belgian pilsner? Belgian lager?
>Belgium is the Disneyland of beer, but it aint lagers.
>
>Bruce Reistle
I understand, you are one of the elitist fools who collect beer
labels, rather than enjoying a cold beer on a hot day. Of course you
know that beer is consumed warm, chilling destroys the flavor. ROFLMAO
And some slop from the far east including Australia exposed to weeks
of tossing on a small boat and the heat of the sun over the ocean, is
the pinnacle of enjoyment. ROFLMAO That is a great way to produce
`Lager' beer (aged a few weeks or months to allow the sediment to
sink). ROFLMAO Please stop you're nonsense is killing me! ROFLMAO Have
you ever even been to Wisconsin? Or for that matter Shiner? Or are you
some fan of some local nickel and dime party store that sells you `all
you need to make great beer'. ROFLMAO.
Professor Vonroach
Cutchen) wrote:
>My understanding is that Lone Star is still a Texas beer in that it is made
>here like it was and by the recipies it was made by back when it was an
>independent brewery.
And San Antonio had another beer - Pearl Beer.
Bruce Reistle
Professor Vonroach wrote:
>
>
> I understand, you are one of the elitist fools who collect beer
> labels, rather than enjoying a cold beer on a hot day. Of course you
> know that beer is consumed warm, chilling destroys the flavor.
Allow me to educate you, Roach. Some beer is best served
chilled, others are best served cool. It is a very rare beer
indeed that is best served "warm." Cellar temperature, i.e.
cool, is about as warm as most beers should be served to best
express themselves. But like anything else, opinions will
vary.
> And some slop from the far east including Australia exposed to weeks
> of tossing on a small boat and the heat of the sun over the ocean, is
> the pinnacle of enjoyment. ROFLMAO That is a great way to produce
> `Lager' beer (aged a few weeks or months to allow the sediment to
> sink).
You're half right. The brutality you decribe does damage most
beers, but very few lagers contain sediment after bottling or
kegging. Ales are much more likely to contain sediment.
> ROFLMAO Please stop you're nonsense is killing me! ROFLMAO Have
> you ever even been to Wisconsin? Or for that matter Shiner? Or are you
> some fan of some local nickel and dime party store that sells you `all
> you need to make great beer'. ROFLMAO.
Been to Wisconsin, been to Shiner. Have you been to Belgium?
Roach, I hope this helps bring you up to speed so you no
longer have to embarrass yourself.
Jack Tyler
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That would make it the liebfraumilch of beers, wouldn't it?
Jack
> >
> > Bruce Reistle
>
MareCat
Straub before. The brewery, in St. Mary's, PA, is part of my hubby's family
(his grandmother's brother-in-law founded it). In fact, one of the beers we
served at our wedding was Straub (if it we hadn't, half of our guests
wouldn't have shown up). Whenever we go to St. Mary's for get-togethers with
my hubby's relatives, the Straub flows.
For the record, I'm not a huge fan of Straub beer. I think it has kind of a
musty taste to it. I like Shiner Bock much more.
Mary
--
You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can
do nothing for him.
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Bill Suspect
quite a few other poeple) that my opinion is wrong?
Bruce said:
> Actually, they don't taste good.
Bruce should have said:
Personally, I don't think they taste good.
Take a seat. Have a nice day.
Bill
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Bill Suspect
couple of shows last March... we cried when they told us they couldn't
sell it down here. We have a friend who travels to PA once ever few
months, and 50% of the time we can get him to bring back a case.
Perhaps you could pull a few family strings and get it down at
Rudyards? :-)
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Rex McCall
No need to get snotty, Steve also stated back in the late 80's. To me that
is not a current rendition.
Rex
Professor Vonroach
wrote:
>
>
No, Bruce, misinformation never `brings one up to speed'. You seem
confused on the temperature at which beer is consumed. You seem to
focus on Belgium as the `beer center'. Ever even heard of Germany?
England? Ireland? You do distinguish among beer, stout, and ale, I
hope. Regardless of what temperature the only beer which used to be
delivered cool was Coors. All the others including imports shake and
bake on a delivery truck on the way to your saloon. That's why they
all take measures to kill the yeast (and perhaps flavor and zest as
well), before shipping - still an occasional bottle explodes. You can
avoid some of the problems by consuming from the keg, but few people
go to this trouble particularly at home; of course the barkeep uses
required chemicals to keep his lines clean and up to standard if you
decide to go the keg route. Still if one is bored and easily amused, a
collection of beer labels may entertain for a few minutes. Anheuser
Busch is the only one that regularly features a team of brewers in
their advertising. And, many ladies swear by a stale beer shampoo.
Al and Sharon Amabile
is not gods' ambrosia?????????????? Oh my!!!!!!!!!!!!
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> Does anyone know why Bluebell uses artificial flavorings in so many of
> its ice creams? Other premium brands (such as Breyer's) do not do
> this and they remain competetive price-wise. Our family tries to stay
> away from artificial ingredients as much as possible, and when there
> are options we always go for "all-natural". I too once believed that
> Bluebell Ice Cream was one of the "Basic Texas Food Groups." It took
> the experience of living on both the West and East Coasts, where I
> discovered other brands that don't use artificial ingredients, to make
> me realize that Bluebell perhaps does not live up to its exalted
> reputation.
Al and Sharon Amabile
subsequent unification in Germany. Many of those companies mentioned were
started as a result of disgruntled Germans packing up and going to America.
My guess is that applies to Blue Bell too.
An Amabile Person.
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ama...@postoffice.swbell.net
or I would weigh a ton! ;-)
Amanda
j-...@brokersys.com wrote:
> Hazelnut gelato.
>
> Jack Tyler had this to say:
> > Sorry... sounds good, but for me, it's Rum Raisin.
>
> > Jack
>
> > C. Briden <cinshep@@@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:tlbja6k...@corp.supernews.com...
> >> Haagen-Dazs, man. Strawberry. It is THE ONE for me. ;)
> >>
> >> Cindy
>
> --
> J-Mag Guthrie /"\
> \ /
> X
> Will work for food / \
Bruce Reistle
Professor Vonroach wrote:
>
> You do distinguish among beer, stout, and ale, I
> hope.
Let me teach you more, Vonroach. Stout *is* an ale, and ale
*is* beer. The category "beer" generally consists of two
major groups: ales and lagers. There are of course many
subcategories of ales and lagers, like pilsners and stouts.
> That's why they
> all take measures to kill the yeast (and perhaps flavor and zest as
> well), before shipping - still an occasional bottle explodes.
Most beers are pasteurized, but there are plenty of "living"
beers available at your local beer store. Try some Chimay
Blue.
Bruce Reistle
Professor Vonroach
wrote:
>
>
>Professor Vonroach wrote:
>>
>
>> You do distinguish among beer, stout, and ale, I
>> hope.
>
>Let me teach you more, Vonroach. Stout *is* an ale, and ale
>*is* beer. The category "beer" generally consists of two
>major groups: ales and lagers. There are of course many
>subcategories of ales and lagers, like pilsners and stouts.
Purveyors of ale and stout dispute your definitions, so why should I
be impressed.
>
>> That's why they
>> all take measures to kill the yeast (and perhaps flavor and zest as
>> well), before shipping - still an occasional bottle explodes.
>
>Most beers are pasteurized, but there are plenty of "living"
>beers available at your local beer store. Try some Chimay
>Blue.
I prefer beer that does not explode in my hand or on the counter.
Now, teach what is the next dangerous lesson?
>Bruce Reistle
Bruce Reistle
Professor Vonroach wrote:
>
> Purveyors of ale and stout dispute your definitions, so why should I
> be impressed.
No need to be impressed, but at least try to be informed
before you shoot your mouth off. If you're interested in
beer, you might start with Michael Jackson's Pocket Guide to
Beer; apparently your source of information - "purveyors" - is
unreliable.
Bruce Reistle
Jo
Good lord boy! You know nothing about nothing. You actually
need a pocket book to tell you what beer is good??? You're
joking right? A POCKET book by *Michael Jackson* no less. What
a riot!
I travel to Europe extensively and I drink beer like the Dickens.
I have had 2 hour old Guiness Stout in Dublin and I have had
pints of bitter till I am blue in the face and every other kind
of Europen beer. But I'll tell ya something, the best tasting
beer after mowing the lawn in the Texas heat is a nice *ice cold*
Bud or Coors. American beer, baby! Deal with it!
As for Bluebell ice cream having artifical flavor - so freakin'
what. It tastes great!
I can appreciate you liking the natural stuff because that is one
huge Texas grown corn cob wedged up your ass. That thing ought
to be about ripe. Have a taste.
Jo (still laughing that some driod needs a book to tell him what
tastes good!)
lol !!!
Bruce Reistle
Jo wrote:
>
> Good lord boy! You know nothing about nothing. You actually
> need a pocket book to tell you what beer is good??? You're
> joking right? A POCKET book by *Michael Jackson* no less. What
> a riot!
I have a feeling that we are thinking of distinctly different
Michael Jacksons. I'm referring to the beer connoisseur, not
the pedophile/rock star.
As for needing a guide to tell me which beer is good; no, I
don't. I was suggesting this guide to a novice, although it
is an excellent guide and there is no shame in using it as a
reference. There are many thousands of beers out there,
sometimes a frame of reference is helpful.
> I travel to Europe extensively and I drink beer like the Dickens.
> I have had 2 hour old Guiness Stout in Dublin and I have had
> pints of bitter till I am blue in the face and every other kind
> of Europen beer.
I'm impressed. There are some very rare styles of European
beers; to have had them all is quite an accomplishment.
> But I'll tell ya something, the best tasting
> beer after mowing the lawn in the Texas heat is a nice *ice cold*
> Bud or Coors. American beer, baby! Deal with it!
I can deal with that with effortless ease. There is nothing
wrong with liking cold beer. Bud and Coors are definitely
best served ice-cold. I really mean that.
>
> As for Bluebell ice cream having artifical flavor - so freakin'
> what. It tastes great!
When I said I didn't like it, I was told to phrase it in the
form of an opinion.
> I can appreciate you liking the natural stuff because that is one
> huge Texas grown corn cob wedged up your ass. That thing ought
> to be about ripe. Have a taste.
Jo, I like your style.
> Jo (still laughing that some driod needs a book to tell him what
> tastes good!)
What's a driod? I read movie, theater, music, and food
reviews. They are excellent references, but not a substitute
for one's own opinion, as you suggest.
Jo, I recommend you get the Pocket Guide to Beer as well.
Bruce Reistle
MareCat
> I got hooked on Straub when when band flew to Pittsburhg to play a
> couple of shows last March... we cried when they told us they couldn't
> sell it down here. We have a friend who travels to PA once ever few
> months, and 50% of the time we can get him to bring back a case.
>
> Perhaps you could pull a few family strings and get it down at
> Rudyards? :-)
>
I'll see what I can do. ;)
Mary
Professor Vonroach
wrote:
adolescent comment. Grow up kid.
>Bruce Reistle
Professor Vonroach
wrote:
> There are many thousands of beers out there,
>sometimes a frame of reference is helpful.
>
If you've got a couple of bucks go suck on a cold beer, it may soothe
your bruised ego. Bruce, you know little or nothing about beer,
brewers of beer, or drinkers of beer.
Bruce Reistle
Now that's a sound argument, based on the facts.
It is time to take this off-line.
Bruce Reistle
Jo
<brei...@pdq.net> wrote:
>
>
>Jo wrote:
>>
>> Good lord boy! You know nothing about nothing. You actually
>> need a pocket book to tell you what beer is good??? You're
>> joking right? A POCKET book by *Michael Jackson* no less. What
>> a riot!
>
>I have a feeling that we are thinking of distinctly different
>Michael Jacksons.
No kidding? What tipped ya off Einstein?
>
>As for needing a guide to tell me which beer is good; no, I
>don't.
Yes you do need it. That's why you have it. D'oh!
Jo
Bill Suspect
Bill
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Professor Vonroach
wrote:
>I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Bruce is a fooker.
>
>Bill
>
Just a little over optimistic about his expertise in some areas.
Vienna is a waltz town where the folks know their wine, women, and
song. Houston is a boogie and blues town where the folks know their
beer, broads, and ballads. Several decades ago Paul Hoculi (?) night
life reporter for the now defunct Houston Press said Houston was a
bourbon and trombone town, but I've seen a lot more beer and guitar
``consumed' over the years. An adult beverage consumed in Houston is
apt to be a cold beer, especially at this time of year.
Carey Akin
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>
> I'm not aware that Blue Bell has ever claimed to use no artificial
> flavoring, or other ingredients. I've always enjoyed it, though, and now
> that it's been pointed out to me, probably *still* will. However, IMHO,
> Blue Bell compares favorably with Breyer's. I get the feeling that
there's
> a lot of air in Breyer's. That may not be true, but the texture gives me
> that feeling. Frankly, of all of them, I like Hygeia ( I think that looks
> like it's spelled wrong). I assume it's all fake inside, too, though.
>
I seem to remember hearing or reading somewhere that in many situation
artificial vanilla flavoring is superior to real vanilla beans.
Carey in Pearland
Mattress.Tester
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>On 23 Jul 2001 07:22:27 -0700, bi...@thesuspects.com (Bill Suspect)
>wrote:
>
>>I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Bruce is a fooker.
>>
>>Bill
>>
>Just a little over optimistic about his expertise in some areas.
>Vienna is a waltz town where the folks know their wine, women, and
>song. Houston is a boogie and blues town where the folks know their
>beer, broads, and ballads. Several decades ago Paul Hoculi (?) night
>life reporter for the now defunct Houston Press said Houston was a
Hold the phone: Houston Press is defunct?
http://www.houstonpress.com/ <---<< This Houston Press?
Bruce Reistle
Has anyone tried the food at the Gingerman? They're serving a
cheese and fruit plate, and something else, which I forget. I
usually go a couple doors down to the Istanbull Grill, which
is excellent.
Bruce Reistle
Professor Vonroach
<Mattres...@MailAndNews.com> wrote:
>Hold the phone: Houston Press is defunct?
Yes, kid, the Houston Press went down probably before you were born.
As I recall it was affiliated with the Scripps Howard group. Tended on
the side of sensationalism. It was a legitimate Houston newspaper, not
a give-away sheet. It has since been followed into the grave yard by
the Houston Post (traditionally the morning paper published by the
Hobby interests) and for all practical purposes, the Houston Chronicle
(traditionally the evening paper and the one preferred by advertisers
published by the Jesse Jones interests). Present `Chronicle is an
illegitimate offspring of left wing San Francisco extremists published
by the Hurst interests of that strange town. So in effect it is now
correct to state that, with the Houston Press, the Houston press is
also dead - leaving us with some give away rags such as the Green
Sheets and latter day `Houston Press' (a joke), along with a rag
basically out of San Francisco with no local credibility.
Guess what, Houston Radio is also almost dead having given way to
syndicated national shows and `Houston' TV is just a melange of
out-of-town networks spinning propaganda.
This is the sorry state of Media today. Ignorant talking heads and
typing hands babbling propaganda from scripts provided by their
bosses. Only the faces of these mindless robots are different, they
all share the same ridiculous ego-centric pomposity. One of their
bosses was laid to rest yesterday in Washington DC with all the
bureaucrat robots in attendance - good riddance.
Jack Tyler
I assume that you also remember the Houston Tribune?
Jack Tyler
Jeremy Goodwin
that he believes that given his perspective on the
world, should he run the media, it would be balanced,
focused, locally aware, empathetic, without bias,
bigotry, prejudice, mechanistic tendencies, in now way
repetitive while maintaining consistency and adhering
precisely to the topic.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It begs the question; What tone would the editorial
replies have, to reader's letters criticizing the
reporting? :-)
JJ
lance hirsch
> I wouldn't consider Lone Star a Texas beer. Yeah, Lone Star
> is brewed in Texas, kind of like Krispy Kreme donuts are baked
> in Texas. Anyway, Lone Star is merely a label, bought and
> sold, and whatever "beer" that happens to be in the bottle is
> irrelevant.
>
Does the owner of a brewery invalidate a beer's standing as a Texas beer?
Assuming the process wasn't changed, I'd still consdier it a Texas Beer.
Lance
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"...Bond reflected that good Americans were fine people and that most
of them seemed to come from Texas."
Casino Royale. Chapter VII
Thunder
New York media mogul who died. Who cares? This is Houston, and frankly, I
don't care if a Houston media mogul dies, unless I know them. Then, KPRC
goes on to say "KRPC is owned by so-and-so" - which is who New York old/dead
chick was the owner of. Imagine that!
Oh well - - back to the food!
"Professor Vonroach" <vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:3b5d3f0...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com...
Professor Vonroach
<jer...@dcnet2000.com> wrote:
>Having caught your quote of the Roach, one must assume
>that he believes that given his perspective on the
>world, should he run the media, it would be balanced,
>focused, locally aware, empathetic, without bias,
>bigotry, prejudice, mechanistic tendencies, in now way
>repetitive while maintaining consistency and adhering
>precisely to the topic.
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>
No, JJ, just truthful.
>JJ
>
>
>>
>> I assume that you also remember the Houston Tribune?
What a joke.
>> Jack Tyler