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[Arturo Hernández Maldonado]

How can I do an exercise like this with Hotpotatoes7?

https://hotpot.uvic.ca/howto/hacking_workshop/examples/task_10.htm

The instructions on the website correspond to hotpotatoes6

https://hotpot.uvic.ca/howto/hacking_workshop/task_03.htm

Thank you very much in advance and congratulations on your contributions.

[Martin Holmes]

I think if you simply adapt those instructions to HotPot 7 (replacing "6" with "7" in the filenames), most of the customizations should just work. Not much has changed really.

Cheers,
Martin

[Agnès S.]

Erratum : "Martin, this exercise has not been created with one of my
add-ons but with the original Jmix."
JCloze of course.

Agnès S.

[Agnès S.]

Hi Arturo and Martin.

Martin, the needed Finish function was in hp7hotpotnet.js_ file which no
longer exists in Hot Potatoes v7.
So we have to add the function in jquiz7.js_ and the invocation of the
function in jquiz7.js_ and hp7showmessage.js_ (note sure of this one but
it seems to work)

See :
http://hpaddons.free.fr/provisoire/jquiz_next_based_on_score/jquiz7.js_
(line 694 and line 723)
http://hpaddons.free.fr/provisoire/jquiz_next_based_on_score/hp7showmessage.js_
(line 66)

Cheers,
Agnès S.

Le 02/10/2025 à 17:38, 'Martin Holmes' via hotpotatoesusers a écrit :
> I think if you simply adapt those instructions to HotPot 7 (replacing
> "6" with "7" in the filenames), most of the customizations should just
> work. Not much has changed really.
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
> On Wednesday, October 1, 2025 at 5:25:30 PM UTC-7 aher...@fam.unam.mx wrote:
>
> How can I do an exercise like this with Hotpotatoes7?
> https://hotpot.uvic.ca/howto/hacking_workshop/examples/task_10.htm
> <https://hotpot.uvic.ca/howto/hacking_workshop/examples/task_10.htm>
>
> The instructions on the website correspond to hotpotatoes6

> https://hotpot.uvic.ca/howto/hacking_workshop/task_03.htm <https://
> hotpot.uvic.ca/howto/hacking_workshop/task_03.htm>

>
> Thank you very much in advance and congratulations on your
> contributions.
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[Gérard Lefevre]

Hi all from France,

- I am very happy to see that Hot Potatoes is not dead. I've read a few deprecative reviews on the web by people who obviously cannot come up with anything better. If there is a way I can contribute financially, just tell me.

I've been using Hot potatoes with my pupils, and now I am retired I am starting to use it again because I needed to make crosswords for the magazine of an association. And I couldn't find anything better that your Crosswords module:  https://cutt.ly/MOTSCROISESHV109

- I have a question about JQuiz.
  In Multiple choice exercises, a click on the correct answer button switches the interrogation mark to a happy smiley .
But I've made a MCQ with 4 answers per question, and this only  happens on the first right answer clicked. Did I go wrong somewhere?
You can check here: https://cutt.ly/Impacter

Thank you so much!

Gérard Lefèvre from Lille, France.

[Martin Holmes]

Agnès, I see you know my software better than I know it myself. :-)
I was fooled by seeing your name in the source code.

You're right that JCloze orders the answers alphabetically in the dropdown list. I did that because I thought it would make it easier for students to find an answer they're looking for in an exercise with a lot of gaps. But it would be possible to add a function which mixes up the dropdown options every time the page loads. I'm not sure it would be kind to the students, though!

Cheers,
Martin

[Martin Holmes]

Hi Gerard,

Yes, I am still alive, although I don't really work on Hot Potatoes much at the moment.

The idea of the response you describe is:

When the student selects a wrong answer before getting the right answer, we should record that so they can see at the end how many tries they took, and understand their score.
When they click on a right answer, the question is essentially finished. They may then click on as many other (presumably mostly wrong) answers as they like to see what the feedback may be for those answers, since that's a good learning experience if the wrong answers are well-written and have good feedback. But when they do that, we don't want to give the impression that their score has been affected, since this would discourage them from checking out the wrong answers, so we don't change the button caption; we just show the feedback for that answer.

I hope that makes sense!

Cheers,
Martin 

[Agnès S.]

Le 03/10/2025 à 17:31, 'Martin Holmes' via hotpotatoesusers a écrit :

> You're right that JCloze orders the answers alphabetically in the
> dropdown list. I did that because I thought it would make it easier for
> students to find an answer they're looking for in an exercise with a lot
> of gaps. But it would be possible to add a function which mixes up the
> dropdown options every time the page loads. I'm not sure it would be
> kind to the students, though!
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>

I completely agree.
But perhaps there are cases I haven't thought of , where alphabetical
order is inconvenient.
Arturo, could you explain why you want random order?

Agnès S.

[ARTURO HERNANDEZ MALDONADO]

Thank you very much. I thought about a random order, but not for each box. I think that when the web page is reloaded, the order could change randomly and that order could be maintained for all boxes until the web page is reloaded.

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[Agnès S.]

Hi Arturo,
I tried to modify JCloze so that the items in the drop-down list are not
sorted alphabetically, but with the same order for all lists however.
http://hpaddons.free.fr/provisoire/jcl_dropdown_random_order/partition.htm

If that's what you wanted, you can download the modified file here:
http://hpaddons.free.fr/provisoire/jcl_dropdown_random_order/jcloze7.js_

Cheers,
Agnès S.
http://hpaddons.free.fr/

Le 04/10/2025 à 03:46, ARTURO HERNANDEZ MALDONADO a écrit :
> Thank you very much. I thought about a random order, but not for each
> box. I think that when the web page is reloaded, the order could change
> randomly and that order could be maintained for all boxes until the web
> page is reloaded.
>
> El vie, 3 oct 2025 a las 13:04, Agnès S. (<agnes...@gmail.com

> <mailto:agnes...@gmail.com>>) escribió:

>
>
>
> Le 03/10/2025 à 17:31, 'Martin Holmes' via hotpotatoesusers a écrit :
>
> > You're right that JCloze orders the answers alphabetically in the
> > dropdown list. I did that because I thought it would make it
> easier for
> > students to find an answer they're looking for in an exercise
> with a lot
> > of gaps. But it would be possible to add a function which mixes
> up the
> > dropdown options every time the page loads. I'm not sure it would be
> > kind to the students, though!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Martin
> >
>
> I completely agree.
> But perhaps there are cases I haven't thought of , where alphabetical
> order is inconvenient.
> Arturo, could you explain why you want random order?
>
> Agnès S.
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