The octupluts

[jnmorrow]

I watched twice the women who just had the octuplets get interviewed.
And it gave me a lot to think about. I was curious what others
thought.

It seems like so many our outraged by her. But I feel differently
after watching her today, and thinking more about why we should or
should not have children.

[TayMae27]

The woman who has fourteen children now? She had six kids before she
gave birth to the octuplets. And the method in which she was able to
have the new babies was by using money from an insurance interaction
to support her already born six kids. She used money for the kids she
already had to have more kids! She was already having problems before
giving birth to the octuplets. And she has a history of seeking sperm
donations. Personally, I feel her actions are outrageous. This is
mainly because the human race is so overpopulated already! And this
woman doesn't even have the means to raise them properly, she'd been
relying on her mother with the other six kids and her mom claims to be
sick of it. The mother created a website for people to donate money
for her kids. Clearly, all she wants is attention.

[morrow]

I think she has no business trying for a seventh pregnancy either ( at
least not at that time she could have waited till later)

But I found out some new things

First of all I guess the odds of what happening her having eight are
almost nonexistent, and the last times she also put in six embryos and
each time she only ended up with one baby and one time twins.

So that clears up why she would think to put in so many. Although the
doctor should not have put in so many according to the guidelines.

She was also infertile for seven years - so seven years she tried to
get pregnant and could not and that might have effected her
psychologically. It probably did.

I dont think she is looking for attention. I think she just wants to
keep having children. And maybe it is selfish.

But I kind of understood how hard it would not to implant your own
embryos if you have already had them made. I think I would be tempted
too,

Personally, I think she had two many made, but if she was infertile
that might be why. She still has some frozen.

and what all this fuss and anger towards her has made me wonder if in
america we focus so much on how financially you have to be all set
before having children maybe too much - american families are getting
smaller and smaller and women are waiting later and a later to have
children only to find they cant - they waited too long. and bigger
families are becoming a thing of the past.

And a lot of people who are financially all-set can still be bad
parents.

And no one has said she is a bad mom in how she interacts and loves
her children. I got a feeling that she except for the money thing she
is very good with them.

So if I had to decide between someone who was going to be kind and
nice and respectful to their children but maybe kinda poor and someone
who was not any of those things but had the money....

well, what I am trying to say is that being a good Mom is more than
about money, and I think a lot of people resent her decision cause
maybe they wish they had kind of taking the same risk.

I have one kid would love to have a had a big family - but I waiting
till I was older and in a somewhat better financial spot, and I am
turning 40...

So I am not the best with money, but I am pretty good with kids, so it
would be easy for me to resent her, but I kind of understand her
motives

Now that being said I feel bad for her I think she is in for a real
shock when all those babies come home.

She has to have help. And people dont have to like her to offer help,
just think of those little babies.

But yes some of the decisions she has made are easy to questions and
think they were not the best. She seems unrealistic.

[morrow]

I think the more I watch her I think Taylor you make a good point. She
may have not started out seeking attention... but I think along the
way she might be liking the attention now.

[TayMae27]

Today I found out Octomom used to be a stripper. Wow.

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[Jill Sinclair]

Strippers can not have children?

Today I found out she fired her help, but I guess she has new help now. Thought Angels in Waiting were making her feel unwelcome in her home, creating a negative atmosphere, and communicating poorly.

Of course they say something different..

Always two sides!

She seems to be needing some more maturity.

[TayMae27]

The stripper idea, to me, confirms that she just wants attention.

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