宜伝

[bendooley]

Hello all,

I'm having a heck of a time finding the meaning of 宜伝... It's not in
any of my dictionaries and usage examples I've found online have been
a bit ambiguous. Any suggestions?

Thank you!

Best,
Ben

[Michael Hendry]

From: "bendooley" <bend...@gmail.com>

> I'm having a heck of a time finding the meaning of 宜伝...

Most likely a typo for or misread of 宣伝.

Michael Hendry, in Newcastle Australia

[William Sakovich]

[[I'm having a heck of a time finding the meaning of 宜伝... It's not in

any of my dictionaries and usage examples I've found online have been

a bit ambiguous. Any suggestions?]]

Here's one possible translation, with Japanese and English top and bottom

http://ci.nii.ac.jp/naid/110000058097

- Bill Sakovich

[Takehiko Ito]

Another possibility could be a typo for "喧伝" (kenden).

Depends on the context, anyway.

Takehiko Ito

[Minori Utsutsu]

I think also it is 宣伝. (advertisement)

if it is chinese, there is a possibility there is a such word.

宜 means "please say hallo" and 伝 means "tell"

i don't know chinese so well. please check it both way.

[Aaron Madlon-Kay]

The 伝 variant isn't used in Chinese*, so I think it's unlikely to be
Chinese (traditional: 傳; simplified: 传).

I suspect an OCR misreading of 宣伝.

-Aaron

*伝 actually does seem to exist in Chinese as a separate word (yún
"summon / propagate, transmit") but none of my dictionaries list it in
any compounds. The equivalent of the Japanese 宣伝 is 宣傳 / 宣传.

On 4月9日, 午後2:58, Minori Utsutsu

[Mika Jarmusz]

> Here's one possible translation, with Japanese and English top and bottom
http://ci.nii.ac.jp/naid/110000058097

なんともはや。
論文の内容は拝見しておりませんので同ページ掲載の要約文に限定してのコメントになりますが、この和文は・・・。言葉に窮しております。英文へのコメントはもはや差し控えさせていただきます。
もしかして、まさかこれが宜伝の良き場・・・いや、失礼いたしました。はっきりとは申せませんが、このページの「宜伝」は「宣伝」であろうものかと思われます。


Mika Jarmusz 清水美香
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[Yoshiro Shibasaki]

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[Alan Siegrist]

Mika Jarmusz writes:

> Here's one possible translation, with Japanese and English top and bottom
http://ci.nii.ac.jp/naid/110000058097

はっきりとは申せませんが、このページの「宜伝」は「宣伝」であろうものかと思われます。

I think you might be right. At first I thought that 宜伝 was an OCR error for 宣伝, but then I clicked on the main text to find the Japanese abstract, and found that it was indeed clearly 宜伝 in the PDF source.

 

I cannot explain the source of the error with any confidence, but perhaps the original of this document was typed on a Japanese typewriter, so the typist may have mistook the similar characters 宜 and 宣 on the keyboard and typed the wrong one.

 

That is all I can guess. From a meaning standpoint, I think 宣伝 is definitely meant in this document.

 

Regards,

 

Alan Siegrist

Carmel, CA, USA

[Mika Jarmusz]

> とっても不憫に感じて、何も言わないでおいたのに．．．

町女：申し訳ございません、またしてもあのような罪なことを、
何もかも私のせいにございます・・・

「ふやけ麺類むち打ちの刑」、もう覚悟はできておりますゆえ、
どうかあの方のお命だけは・・・（袴のすそにしがみつくが、カツラがずれる）

おっとこりゃ、ここでカットだわ。

[菊地健一]

 

>> とっても不憫に感じて、何も言わないでおいたのに．．．

>町女：申し訳ございません、またしてもあのような罪なことを、
>何もかも私のせいにございます・・・

>「ふやけ麺類むち打ちの刑」、もう覚悟はできておりますゆえ、
>どうかあの方のお命だけは・・・（袴のすそにしがみつくが、カツラがずれる）

>おっとこりゃ、ここでカットだわ。

>Mika Jarmusz 清水美香

 

うーーーーーむ、このメッセージ強烈だなああああああああああ！

（意見陳述、抗議、批判、皮肉、ふざけ、居直り、どう言っていいものやら）

カット、カット、カット！

 

でも、すごく、同感してしまう、ダメなボク～（おっと、これもカット、カット）

 

 

菊地健一

 

[bendooley]

Thanks for the help, everyone.

Alan, pardon my possible naivete, but do/did Japanese typewriters as
you describe really exist?

Thanks,
Ben

[Alan Siegrist]

Ben Dooley writes:

> Alan, pardon my possible naivete, but do/did Japanese typewriters as
> you describe really exist?

Yes, indeed. Here are some nice pictures of examples of them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_typewriter
http://blog.gatunka.com/2009/09/30/japanese-typewriters/

When I worked at a Japanese magazine, we would occasionally make trips to
the offices of the printer to check the galleys. Interestingly, the printer
still (ca. 1987) had a working example of a Japanese typewriter that an
experienced typist would use to produce certain jobs.

It was fascinating to watch her do her work. It took quite a bit of skill to
operate the machine.

If I recall correctly, they were putting in a Japanese-capable Linotype
typesetter at that time and the experienced Japanese typist was insisting
that they provide an input device that simulated the keyboard on the
Japanese typewriter. She did not want to be bothered to learn the "new" kana
to kanji conversion routine like that on a modern computer. I never found
out if they were able to scare up the special input device.

Times change.