any plastic model enthusiasts out there? runner or sprue or?

[Brian Watson]

Still working with my toys, and this time it's the assembly instructions.

You have to remove the model parts from the ランナー, which, according to

Wikipedia, is technically called a 'sprue' in English. But I'm writing this for

kids to early teens. I don't think 'sprue' is going to cut it.

Could I call it a template? Does that make sense to model enthusiasts?

TIA,

Brian Watson
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[Michael Hendry]

A Google search shows 'sprue' to be the word used most often. 'Tree' also has a lot of usage but sprue is most common by the look of it.

 

Michael Hendry, in Newcastle Australia

[Peter Rothstein]

That's what they were always referred to when I used to build models.  But then again, my mom insists that my frustration at trying to figure out 1970s era model instructions (from Japaneseis why I learned Japanese.

Hope this helps,

Peter Rothstein

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[BJ Beauchamp]

Hi Brian,

Depends on what type of model it is. In the Gunpla community, we all know the sheets by their proper name (runners). So long as they're able to determine which sheet to take it off of, 'runner' should work just fine. 

BJ B.

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A Google search shows 'sprue' to be the word used most often. 'Tree' also has a lot of usage but sprue is most common by the look of it.

 

Michael Hendry, in Newcastle Australia

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[Peter Rothstein]

Oops- finger slip on tablet.  In the middle of typing "(from Japanese manufacturers) is why I learned Japanese."

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[Brian Watson]

Peter, could you clarify? What does 'that' refer back to? Sprue or template?

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Peter Rothstein <pdrot...@gmail.com> wrote:

That's what they were always referred to when I used to build models.

[Brian Watson]

Thanks, BJ.

These are in fact LBX models, so they would count as Gunpla.

I guess I can use runners.

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 4:09 PM, BJ Beauchamp <bj.bea...@gmail.com> wrote:

In the Gunpla community, we all know the sheets by their proper name (runners).

[Alan Siegrist]

BJ Beauchamp writes:

> Depends on what type of model it is. In the Gunpla community,
> we all know the sheets by their proper name (runners).

I'm not sure what you mean by the "proper name." Yes, ランナー is the
Japanese name.

See this diagram here:
http://imoldmaking.com/mold-making-2/mold-design/runner-and-gate/injection-m
old-sprue-and-runner/

Technically, the "sprue" is the portion that leads from the outside of the
mold in, the "runners" are elements that spread the plastic in parallel to
the parts and the "gates" lead from the runners to the parts.

So neither "sprue" nor "runner" is technically the correct name for all of
the excess plastic surrounding the parts in a model.

But when I was making plastic models long ago, we (when speaking in English)
called all of the excess plastic "sprue" or "sprues." For whatever reason,
ランナー became the accepted Japanese term, despite similarly being not
quite technically accurate.

I think "sprue" is just fine, even for younger modelers.

Regards,

Alan Siegrist
Carmel, CA, USA

[Jens Wilkinson]

On 2013/04/03, at 7:35, Brian Watson <brian....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Still working with my toys, and this time it's the assembly instructions.
>
>

> Could I call it a template? Does that make sense to model enthusiasts?
>

I think runner sounds fine. I used to make plane models, but don't remember ever using a word for those things.

And about template, isn't that what you would use for balsa models, the sheets that you punch the pieces out of?

Jens Wilkinson

[Peter Rothstein]

Sorry, sprue is the term I always encountered.

Peter Rothstein

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[Jens Wilkinson]

On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Peter Rothstein <pdrot...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry, sprue is the term I always encountered.

Peter Rothstein

Yes, it sounds fine to me. I don't think there's any problem about understanding the term anyway, because when you're building plastic models it's painfully obvious what it's referring to. I think you could probably use the term zambitzer and people would still understand. In fact, I think the reason I don't remember the terms, even though I built hundreds of models, is that it isn't anything that really needed to be talked about. If I remember correctly, the instructions would usually have numbers, and the pieces were numbered on the sprues, so you just compared the numbers to find the right piece. And it's very clear that you have to cut the piece off the sprue before gluing the pieces together (I hope!). The only place I can imagine using it would be a sort of warning,

For best results use an x-acto knife to cut the pieces off the sprues. Do not twist them off.

Or something like that. But instructions that say:

1. Cut the piece off the sprue

Seems fairly unnecessary, IMO. My memory is that instructions were basically like this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/47661552@N00/7609435154/sizes/k/in/photostream/

So it doesn't even mention that you have to cut the pieces off the zambitzers or whatever the things are called.

Jens Wilkinson

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[Simon Varnam]

On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 7:35:30 AM UTC+9, Brian Watson wrote:

. I don't think 'sprue' is going to cut it.

40+ years ago, "sprue" was the word in the instructions of my "Airfix" kits.

FWIW

 

Could I call it a template? Does that make sense to model enthusiasts?

Not to this one. A template is something you might use to make a new part from scratch. Balsa wood models have (had?) them. 

Simon Varnam