Company name [Q]

[timl...@aol.com]

Does anyone know what 共に棟ソー is called in English? Tosoh seems logical but what about the "tomo ni"?

Regards and TIA

Tim Leeney

[John Stroman]

Tim,

Can you provide more context? Normally, 共に is a connector that means "together with" or "in cooperation/conjunction with"

John Stroman

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[timl...@aol.com]

Context is an enumeration of finely powdered silica brands, hence

. . . (登録商標）（共に棟ソー）

So in the light of your suggestion, maybe it means (jointly with Tosho).

Regards and thanks

Tim Leeney

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[timl...@aol.com]

Tosoh of course, not Tosho (!)

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[John Stroman]

Tim,

If Tosoh is at the end of the enumeration, then it probably means something like "along with" to suggest that Tosoh is the major player, but there are others which were enumerated previously. Depending on your context, it may be OK to simply omit 共に to make the English read better (unless the customer expects a literal translation).

John

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[Herman]

On 4/14/23 05:55, timleeney via Honyaku E<>J translation list wrote:
> Context is an enumeration of finely powdered silica brands, hence
>
> . . . (登録商標）（共に棟ソー）
>
> So in the light of your suggestion, maybe it means (jointly with Tosho).
>

Presumably it would mean that both (all) are made by Tosoh.

Herman Kahn

[John Stroman]

Herman,

I agree. It should be easy to verify by tracking down the other enumerated items to see who makes them.

John Stroman

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[timl...@aol.com]

Looking again at the context, it seems to refer just to the two products named immediately before the parenthesis, so "both" probably works best.

Tim

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[Kiyonori Sakurai]

もしかして「東ソー」ではないですか。
ただの勘なのですが。

Kiyonori Sakurai

> Does anyone know what 共に棟ソー is called in English? Tosoh seems logical but what about the "tomo ni"?
> Regards and TIATim Leeney
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[timl...@aol.com]

John and Herman,

Thankyou again for your help. The list also contained other items made by other firms, but there were two made by Tosoh. Job now completed and sent to client.

Regards

Tim

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[Motohiro Kojima]

解決したようで何よりです。

たとえば、

　製品A、製品B　共に東ソー

というように書かれていた場合、

　製品Aと製品Bはどちらも東ソーの製品です

という意味です。
前に2つのことがらを並べておき、その後に「共に〇〇」
という言い方は、よくされます。

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 15:07:15 +0000 (UTC)
timleeney via Honyaku E<>J translation list様 wrote:
|Looking again at the context, it seems to refer just to the two
|products named immediately before the parenthesis, so "both" probably
|works best.
|Tim

2023.04.16 00:42:53
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