Mojibake file names in Mac>Windows zip files

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Tom Donahue

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May 21, 2014, 4:32:50 PM5/21/14
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Often when I get a zip file from a Mac user, the file names are
garbled when I look inside with Explorer (Windows 7) or unzip it with
my normal zip program (7-Zip).

But there's a free program called CubeICE that will unzip them correctly.
It installs itself as an option on the menu that appears when you
right click a zip file.
I had this program installed, and it worked again today.

Here's some information about it, in case anyone else has this problem.
http://www.yaunix.com/2013/01/06/macで圧縮されたzipファイルを文字化けせずにwindows上で/

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Also BTW, here's a site that will un-escape URLs with Japanese
characters in them.
http://www.motobit.com/util/url-decoder.asp

This is handy for the times when you copy an URL from the address bar
of your browser, and then when you paste it, it looks like this:
http://www.yaunix.com/2013/01/06/mac%E3%81%A7%E5%9C%.....%ABwindows%E4%B8%8A%E3%81%A7/

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Tom Donahue

Patrick Oblander

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May 22, 2014, 11:40:55 AM5/22/14
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Hi Tom (and everyone with similar experience),
Are mojibake file names (inside zip folders) strictly a Mac > Windows problem? It happens to me all the time. I receive compressed files on Windows and am reasonably sure all my senders do too, but invariably any Japanese in a file name turns to mojibake. I've searched for a solution (Gmail settings, perhaps?), but have found nothing. I will look into CubeICE--thanks for the tip.
Patrick Oblander

Stephen Suloway

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May 22, 2014, 11:47:11 AM5/22/14
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> Are mojibake file names (inside zip folders) strictly a Mac > Windows problem?

It has been a Windows > Mac problem for me on occasion.


Benjamin Barrett

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May 22, 2014, 1:24:12 PM5/22/14
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On May 22, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Stephen Suloway <nmjap...@cybermesa.com> wrote:

>> Are mojibake file names (inside zip folders) strictly a Mac > Windows problem?
>
> It has been a Windows > Mac problem for me on occasion.

Here, too. I reported it once on an Apple forum and was told that it did not happen and it must be something else.

Reporting it as feedback is probably a good idea.

Benjamin Barrett
Formerly of Seattle, WA

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Tom Donahue

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May 22, 2014, 7:38:04 PM5/22/14
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Patrick Oblander wrote:

> Are mojibake file names (inside zip folders) strictly a
> Mac > Windows problem?

I don't think so. I've had plenty of problems in the past with
Japanese file names in Windows zip files.

Lately not so much in Windows<>Windows. If that's giving you problems,
it probably your zip program. The old version of WinZip that I used
to use couldn't handle it at all.

But for Windows<>Mac it seems like there are still various
incompatibilities in the particular flavor Unicode that that they are
using (UTF-8 or UTF-16), or how they normalize charcters like だ, that
can be treated as 1 character or 2 (た+dakuten).

Anyway this CubeICE program seems to have it figured out better than
Microsoft, so that's what I use when there are problems with zip
files.
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Carl Freire

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May 22, 2014, 8:32:39 PM5/22/14
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Another unzipper that handles the problem well is The Unarchiver,
available for free through the Mac App Store or from the developer:

http://wakaba.c3.cx/s/apps/unarchiver

That's actually an old link, but it points you to the new link and also
specifically addresses the issue we're talking about here.

FWIW.

Carl


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Malcolm James

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May 22, 2014, 9:21:36 PM5/22/14
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Tom Donahue wrote:

> Often when I get a zip file from a Mac user, the file names are
> garbled when I look inside with Explorer (Windows 7) or unzip it with
> my normal zip program (7-Zip).
>
> But there's a free program called CubeICE that will unzip them correctly.

Another solution for Mac-aware unzipping on Windows is Explzh.
http://www.ponsoftware.com/

I've been trying it for a month and it works extremely well. It fixes
mojibake file names, replicates the folder structure, and ignores the
resource forks.

It's highly customable, too. For instance, it was easy to add "encrypt this
zip file" to explorer's right-click menu.
(I'm testing it on XP, but it claims to work on later versions of Windows up
to Windows 8, too)

Malcolm
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Sarah Neufeld

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May 22, 2014, 9:55:44 PM5/22/14
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Thanks so much for this! I get garbled file names from one (Mac-based) client all the time and haven't been able to find a program that will keep the names legible. (Apparently it happens on the client's end as well, so it can be a Windows-to-Mac problem, but they have some sort of widget that detects the correct encoding and ungarbles the names.)

Sarah Neufeld
 

Carl Freire

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May 23, 2014, 1:44:52 AM5/23/14
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Whoops, it just registered on me that the discussion is about
Mac-to-Windows, not the other way around. Well, anyway, in case anyone
is looking for a good Windows-to-Mac unzipper, check out the Unarchiver!

Cheers,

Terry Gallagher

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May 23, 2014, 9:40:33 AM5/23/14
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I think this may actually be a browser issue, rather than an OS issue. Chrome vs. Safari vs. IE. I had it a few years ago, and went to talk to the Apple Genius about it. I believe the problem (for me) was (ironcially!) was solved by switchting to Chrome instead of Safari on the Mac. But I am a little hazy on those details. 

Try a different browser from the one you're using!

Terry Gallagher
Eastham, MA USA


Wataru Tenga

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May 26, 2014, 7:35:27 AM5/26/14
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Sarah Neufeld wrote...
The most common cause of this problem is failure to set Japanese as the
default language for non-unicode programs (in Windows). This setting is
under Language --> Advanced in the Control Panel.

Wataru Tenga, Tokyo

Patrick Oblander

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May 26, 2014, 12:07:09 PM5/26/14
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Wataru-san,
Thanks for the tip. That appears to have solved the problem for me.
Patrick Oblander
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