DiscoveryWorks Global and Harry A. DeBari are LIERS AND CHEATS, Beware

[Dave Ottley]

Hello everybody,

I have posted about this company before, but just wanted to make it clear to all you who have contacted me about the non-payment of DiscoveryWorks Global and/or Harry A. DeBari that I am going to help you collect your money if at all possible.

They still owe me over $7,500 which is over 6 months late. They have been making installment payments after significant threats and tooth pulling by me, but I am done doing that.

When I called their offices today very persistently they hung up on me about 100 times so it is time for my lawyer to take over.

If you are thinking about working with DiscoveryWorks, THINK AGAIN.

The boss (I think?) over there is named Harry A. DeBari is very incompetent and unethical, as well as very aggressive and controlling. If the only problem at the company was having to work with Harry, I would say run for your life.

But that is not the only problem. The main problem is that you will never get paid.

So please contact me so we can work together. I have a good lawyer in the States lined up and we can go in together to get DiscoveryWorks where it hurts (i.e. the pocketbook).

I can't guarantee anyone that you will get your money out of them because they either don't have money or are determined to cheat you out of it if they can or both. However, we can try.

I will contact a few of you with large balances with DiscoveryWorks off list and we will work this out. If I don't contact you soon, please contact me ASAP. I am going to sign all the papers with the Attorney tomorrow if possible, but sometimes these things take a few days.

Don't forget to go over to ProZ.com and leave some negative feedback about the company, as well as posting to this list and other public and visible internet sites and communities to make sure nobody falls prey to DiscoveryWorks again. Not only Japanese practicioners but all lanuage pairs should be warned about DiscoveryWorks and Harry A. Debari.

I have heard that Harry likes to intimidate people by saying he will sue for defamation, but don't be fooled by this. He is not paying YOU so you are free to talk about that all you like.

Anyway, please don't contact me with anything other than requests to go in with me on a lawsuit against them because trust me I have tried all other methods and they do NOT work. There IS NO OTHER WAY TO COLLECT FROM DISCOVERYWORKS, OTHER THAN SUING.

My contact email is:  dot...@ottleygroup.com

Feel free to drop me a line if you have questions, but if is something other than wanting to get your money out of DiscoveryWorks Global by legal means, I may not respond.

I hope this is a good heads up for those out there considering working with this company, and if you have been stiffed by them, please post another comment on this list and on ProZ.com about how badly they (Harry and company) treated you.

Have a good day all.

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Best regards,

Dave Ottley
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Patent, Legal, and Business Translations
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[Dave Ottley]

Yakkers,

I wanted to note that 120 days after payment was due and 16 days from my post above, I have been paid in full for all outstanding invoices from DiscoveryWorks Global.

[Diane]

Our company is owed $32,500.36 for work completed in July and early August 2011.  We remain owed a balance of $32,500.36.  

I just emailed DiscoveryWorks Global / Harry A. DeBari (the owner) at hde...@dw-global.com, and he answered the email.  I would post what he wrote, but I am afraid that it would have to be censored.  This is a individual who likes to intimidate people when he owes them money, so be prepared when you deal with Mr. DeBari.... 

Diane S. Richer
CONTINENTAL COURT REPORTERS
Houston, Texas
email:  dri...@texasdepos.com



On Saturday, June 9, 2012 11:31:57 AM UTC-5, chikasan wrote:

 

"I can’t send my invoices to them because their website and e-mail addresses are no longer active, their phone numbers are not in service, and there is no positive sign that they are there at the physical address in New York. Please see the Google air photo. The building is a furniture store. They are supposed to be at the second floor of this building, but you can not see any positive sign of them."  

"Is there anybody who still have any active e-mail addresses, please kindly let me know. I will really appreciate it."

 Chika K. Cox

Lake Oswego, OR

 

[Dave Ottley]

It's easy to call a moratorium when you are not owed thousands of dollars.

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Steven P. Venti <spv...@bhk-limited.com> wrote:

"Chika K. Cox" <chik...@smile.ocn.ne.jp> wrote:
> Mr. Harry A. DeBari, CEO e-mailed me at 12:54, 13:02, 13:05, 13:09 and
> 13:14. The first four e-mails came with his name, and the last e-mail came
> with DWGTranslations on the same e-mail address hde...@dw-global.com.

I realize that this was posted just 30 seconds after I requested a moratorium,
so no problem there. But please, everyone, let's just let this issue alone
until I straighten some things out.

Your cooperation is appreciated.

 Steve Venti, on behalf of
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[Mike Sekine]

Dave,

Let's be fair to Steve here. He's not our enemy. He's a respected member of our community who dedicates a lot of time and effort to moderate this list. I think we owe him this moratorium, and he's only asking for *7* days.

Mike Sekine
Okinawa, Japan

[jmarc...@comcast.net]

Dave Ottley wrote:

It's easy to call a moratorium when you are not owed thousands of dollars.

Dave,

Steve has an obligation to sort out the facts. If list members are posting things that are at odds with the facts, the entire list may suffer for this. Steve did not say the issue can no longer be discussed here. He just asked for some time to sort out the facts that are in dispute, off list. I do not think that is at all unreasonable, and it might well help those who are owed money to collect it.

John Marchioro

[Wayne Root]

I think I'd have to agree with this. 

[David J. Littleboy]

From: Wayne Root

> I think I'd have to agree with this.

>>> It's easy to call a moratorium when you are not owed thousands of
>>> dollars.

And I'd have to agree with Steve and John. This isn't a place to vent/rant,
it's a place to discuss.

By the way, the title of this thread is problematic. I find the phrase
"liars and cheats" (especially when misspelled) to be childish and
unprofessional. The last time I heard it uttered, things turned out badly.
During the Clinton administration, Ms. Albright made a trip to Japan and I
went to hear her speak. Someone asked about Saddam Hussein, and she went off
on an emotional (hysteric, nearly psychotic) rant, calling him a liar and a
cheat. Sure, Hussein was a despotic dictator who brutally suppressed the
Shia majority in Iraq, but when the Secretary of State can only come up with
schoolyard-level invective, one worries that foreign policy is going to be
less than rational. It took a while, but, sure enough, we fought a war that
although it liberated said Shia majority, resulted in a new government that
has explicitly stated they will side with Iran in any US-Iran conflict.

So no matter how bad the object of your hatred is, I strongly recommend
slowing down and thinking of a better way of expressing yourself. End
results will be much improved.

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan

[jmarc...@comcast.net]

I wrote:

Steve has an obligation to sort out the facts. If list members are posting things that are at odds with the facts, the entire list may suffer for this. Steve did not say the issue can no longer be discussed here. He just asked for some time to sort out the facts that are in dispute, off list. I do not think that is at all unreasonable, and it might well help those who are owed money to collect it.

And J.C. responded:

Steve has no obligation whatsoever to sort out the facts. This list is not any sort of legal entity and the only rules we have to obey are Google's rules regarding list management.

I do not think it is that simple, J.C. 

The laws about libel on the Internet are not at all clear (and it is not at all clear that any of the statements made here about DW Global, heated though they may be, are in fact libelous; that is the factual matter to be determined). 

In addition, Mr. DeBari has stated that the information posted here by some list members (true or not) is making it impossible for him to run his business, which potentially falls under tortious interference in a business relationship. 

Now, if the negative information posted here about DW Global is all true, it is highly unlikely that any lawsuit would result, but I think that it is prudent to do as Steve asks and let him and the other moderators sort this matter out. 

A moratorium is not a ban. It is a time-out. Let's take Steve at his word, and assume that this issue can be addressed again in one week's time, if need be.

John Marchioro

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[Chris Poole]

Steve has an obligation to sort out the facts.

 

 

For Christ's sake it is not the remit of Honyaku to ascertain the facts of a commercial dispute. That is only for a court to do. The sums mentioned are certainly high enough to warrant litigation. So litigate. If it doesn't stack up in court please don't place Honyaku in any sort of jeopardy by posting things that some parties may, for whatever reasons, consider defamatory. It's bad enough that the moderators are now compelled to take unpopular steps, when they do this for no personal compensation.

Can you get your mature and professional heads around that?

 

Chris