"C Gakari" of 29th Civil Division of the Tokyo District Court

[Robin Boyd]

Hello Everyone,


I'm struggling to find a standard way to express 東京地方裁判所民事第２９部Ｃ係 in English. I found a previous poster had a similar issue that went unresolved (see below).

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/honyaku/district$20court$20/honyaku/-HBXfQ_7xpA/RqM1qVLiFwsJ

Does anyone have any ideas?

Right now, I'm leaning towards "Clerk C of the 29th Civil Division of the Tokyo District Court" which is similar to the previous poster's proposal...

What do you think?

Robin Boyd

[Hào Anh Lê 黎英豪]

"Clerk C" seems wrong: http://www.courts.go.jp/tokyo/saiban/tanto/minji_tanto/

民事第29部

民事第29部の担当裁判官一覧

係	裁判官	開廷曜日	法廷
A係	嶋末和秀，鈴木千帆（西村康夫），森川さつき	毎週月・水・金曜日 毎週月曜日	421 623(R)
B係	嶋末和秀，鈴木千帆，西村康夫（森川さつき）	毎週月・水・金曜日 毎週月曜日	421 623(R)
C係	嶋末和秀，鈴木千帆（森川さつき），西村康夫	毎週月・水・金曜日 毎週月曜日	421 623(R)

There are 50 district courts in Japan having territorial jurisdiction over their respective districts, the area of which is identical to that of each prefecture (except Hokkaido, which is divided into four districts). The district courts have 203 branches in total.

Hào Anh Lê

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[Herman]

係 does not have the meaning of clerk in this case. An appropriate
translation would be "Section" or similar.

Herman Kahn

[Toshihiro Nagasaka]

「係」は、日本の伝統的な会社組織における部署名の最小単位ですね。

組織の長の肩書きも、それに応じて、部長->課長->係長となります。

課がSection であれば、係は、Sub-section というところでしょうか。

組織名とは別に、実働部隊に「グループ」という名前をつけることもあります。

今週の日曜日にもテレビで『警視庁捜査一課９係』という刑事モノの名番組が放映されていました。


裁判所では、「い・ろ・は」のような係名が付けられることがある、というのは初耳でした。英語でも、A
quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog. という文章がアルファベットのすべての文字を含む、ということら
しいですが、この「色はにほ(匂)へど...」の古い歌は、日本語の47音をすべて含んだ歌として知られています。


slim> > Right now, I'm leaning towards "Clerk C of the 29th Civil Division of
slim> > the Tokyo District Court" which is similar to the previous poster's
slim> > proposal...
slim> >
slim> > What do you think?
slim> >
slim>
slim> 係 does not have the meaning of clerk in this case. An appropriate
slim> translation would be "Section" or similar.
slim>
slim> Herman Kahn

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Toshihiro Nagasaka
長坂俊宏

[Alan Siegrist]

Herman Kahn writes:

> On 10/6/2014 17:29, Robin Boyd wrote:
> > I'm struggling to find a standard way to express 東京地方裁判所民事第
> > ２９部Ｃ係 in English. I found a previous poster had a similar issue that
> > went unresolved (see below).
> >

> > Right now, I'm leaning towards "Clerk C of the 29th Civil Division of
> > the Tokyo District Court" which is similar to the previous poster's
> > proposal...
>

> 係 does not have the meaning of clerk in this case. An appropriate translation
> would be "Section" or similar.

I concur with Herman and the others in that 係 does not mean clerk in this case, but rather it refers to a subdivision of the Civil Division (or Civil Affairs Division).

In the English literature, one can find references to this particular subdivision as follows, for example:

Tokyo District Court, Civil Affairs Div. 29-C
http://www.patentgenius.com/patent/8382250.html

Regards,

Alan Siegrist
Orinda, CA, USA

[Robin Boyd]

Thank you! 

Since my original post, I have discovered something written by a colleague of mine that was different again, but I think I will go with Herman's Suggestion.

Best regards,

Robin Boyd

[Fred Uleman]

Having no idea where you are, Robin, I hesitate to suggest you just phone them and ask, but . . .

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Fred Uleman