explaining death

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Niels Olson

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Jul 10, 2011, 11:48:24 PM7/10/11
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Our dog died last night. She was 14 and had diabetes, and we woke up
at 2:45 am to her seizing in bed. By the time we had the urgent care
vet on the phone, she was responding to voice and walking, albiet
groggily. Talking with the vet, we decided to wait and see. Sure
enough Lily had another grand mal seizure within the hour and my wife
took her in. Her blood sugar was normal (eg, this was not
hypoglycemia) and the decision was made to euthanize her. At that
point, she'd had 4 seizures in less than 2 hours.

I stayed home with the kids, and when my wife got back, one of the
things we talked about was how to tell the kids. In that discussion,
one question was whether we should have woken them up, so they could
understand exactly why we did what we did. Quite frankly, in the
moment, at 3 am, waking up the kids wasn't on the agenda. We were just
trying to get through situation. But had we paternally excluded them
from an important experience? My position in the conversation was,
well, yes, we had, but to me it seemed that was outweighed by the
cruelty of waking a kid up for no other reason that to witness
suffering.

As a physician, I feel like bearing witness is a sacred trust, and
there's real learning there. There's some higher level learning, but
the heavy lifting is on the right side of the brain: understanding,
perception, training the part of the mind that understands art. And I
reject the argument that kids aren't ready for it. They're smart. They
get it. And the earlier people integrate that understanding into their
being, the better, IMHO. But we didn't do that. Would I do things
differently? I don't know. But I wish I had thought of it at the time.

Submitted for your consideration.

Jem

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Jul 11, 2011, 3:44:49 AM7/11/11
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My cat was run over when I was 14, in the middle of the night. My mum
woke me up at something like 2am to tell me... show me his mangled,
lifeless body. These days all I remember of my cat was his dead body,
eye hanging out the eye socket, bloody tangled fur.

I would rather have missed that "opportunity", personally. Perhaps,
though, it was the state of him, rather than the fact that he was dead.

Stephen Haberman

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Jul 11, 2011, 8:46:44 AM7/11/11
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> And I reject the argument that kids aren't ready for it.

Eh, I dunno. Depends on how old your kids are.

Kids being smart doesn't automatically mean they can handle
emotions in the same way as a mature adult.

As an example, I remember aspects of childhood that freaked me out
(scary movies, specifically). Now I can laugh and say "haha, yeah,
that's not real," but, at the time, even despite "knowing" it's not
real, something about my emotional immaturity made them hard to
deal with. Overactive imagination or something, where I'd be disturbed
by them for days/weeks afterwards.

I could see watching the family dog suffer be the same sort of
emotional experience that, as an adult, doesn't seem like a big deal,
but could really effect and stay with a kid.

Granted, they will witness/experience suffering eventually, but I
wouldn't have any reservations about sparing them that until they were,
oh, say, young teenagers.

In your situation, I think you did the right thing, and I would be
fine telling my young (4-6yo) kids the truth, describing the seizures,
how the dog was suffering, etc. As I think they could definitely handle
hearing and thinking about it, just outside of the emotional situation
of watching it actually happen.

- Stephen

Matt Murphy

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Jul 11, 2011, 1:04:25 PM7/11/11
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Interesting question.  I think you dealt with it admirably.

In one case, the children wake up and the dog is gone, never to be seen again.  In the other case, the children are awoken to say goodbye to a suffering dog (who may have had another seizure in their presence).  The decision you chose insulates the children from the brutality and suffering of death, but heightens the mystery and unknowability of it.  Seeing the dog suffer and then watch as he was brought to the Vet would have filled the children with pity and hope, only to have them learn of the eventual decision to euthanize.  

I think you relied on your instinct and without knowing your children I can't say that you made the wrong decision.  Confronting suffering, hope and the complexities of euthanasia is demanding for anyone (child or adult).  Your decision didn't insulate them from this, only kept it a bit more abstract this time.  Maybe in the future with another pet or loved one they'll have to deal with a similar situation without the benefit of abstraction.  

Nahlyee Van Brunt

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Jul 11, 2011, 1:10:44 PM7/11/11
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My 4-yr-old daughter recently witnessed the accidental death of her new pet parakeet, at her own hands. 

It was a rather gruesome scene... She cries over it every night. I wish I could have spared her that image.
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