Re: Fw: Re: What I saw in Sichuan Mian Yang Zhao Zuozhou

[Tong Zhang]

Dear Zuozhou,

Please find the following message from Prof. Kwan.

Zhang Tong

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Dear Tong,

As a Chinese National, I would like to participate in what you guys are
planning to do. Please count me in.

Please also send my regards to our postgraduate alumni, which I am very
proud of.

Yours,
Albert K.H. Kwan

At 03:27 PM 5/28/2008 +0800, you wrote:
>Professor Kwan,
>FYI.
>ZT
>----- Original Message ----- From: "ÕÔ×÷ÖÜ" <zzz...@mail.tsinghua.edu.cn>
>To: <HK...@googlegroups.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:25 PM
>Subject: Re: Re: What I saw in Sichuan Mian Yang Zhao Zuozhou
>
>
>>
>>Dear Dr Xiong,
>>
>>I came from Tiansui, Guansu Province. Wen xian is a count close to Jiu
>>ZaiGou, boundary between Guansu and Sichuan. should I contact local
>>government about the plan of the Sowers Action?  I donot know the
>>requirement of the engineer volunteers. I wish I can do something for there.
>>
>>About the seismic design education to local design and construction
>>engineer, I will ask our department and faculty leader tonight.
>>
>>Thank you for your messenger and help.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Zhao Zuozhou
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: XIONG Zhaohui <david...@yahoo.com>
>>>Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 01:25:20 -0700 (PDT)
>>>To: HK...@googlegroups.com
>>>Subject: Re: What I saw in Sichuan Mian Yang  Zhao Zuozhou
>>>
>>>Dear All,
>>>¡õ
>>>I also watched TV in Wester Rail last evening, conclusions get by GuoXun
>>>from IEM is that all the collapsed buildings especially school buildings
>>>are not satisfied with seismic design code. I talked to my parents these
>>>days, they have the same conclusions as you said. Although we have did
>>>many many researches, and have¡õ strict requirements on¡õcode. The front
>>>designer,¡õcontractor¡õand inspector even have no¡õcommon sense of
>>>seismic design. Dr. Guo said most of the designer don't understand the
>>>code requirements. Is it the truth?
>>>¡õ
>>>Arup has organized two internal¡õmeetings, many director level leaders
>>>pay close attention to it.¡õThe basic purposes are 'what can we learn
>>>from the earthquake' and 'what can we help for it'. One of Arup's plan
>>>is provide education program¡õon seismic design to local design and
>>>construction engineer. But as you know it is impossible for a foreign
>>>private company provide such assistant to mainland. ZZZ, I wonder
>>>whether Qinghua has such training program?¡õArup could provide assistant
>>>by the name of¡õBJ office if it is not so sensitive or join Qinghua
>>>team. If you think it is practical, please contact with me.
>>>¡õ
>>>Meanwhile, Sowers Action (Education development Program In China) has
>>>collected more than 30M HK$, they plan to rebuild the damaged¡õschools
>>>in Wen Xian, Gansu province, the second serious damaged region. They
>>>require engineer volunteers¡õon both HK and Gansu¡õand plan to establish
>>>an office at Wenxian to supervise rebuild work in following 2 to 5
>>>years. Anyone of you have such interest (no matter short term or long
>>>term), you may register on http://www.sowers.org.hk/¡õor contact
>>>me¡õdirectly.¡õZZZ I know you are from Gansu, I am not sure your exact
>>>hometown, but if you know someone at Wenxian or in that region who has
>>>such interest to help Sowers Action, please let me know. Thanks.
>>>¡õ
>>>BTW, who know where is Wang Haitao? His mobile is out of service, I
>>>can't contact with him. I have another urgent¡õthing need his help. Thanks.
>>>¡õ
>>>Regards,
>>>¡õ
>>>Xiao XIONG
>>>¡õ
>>>Regards,
>>>¡õ
>>>David
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----
>>>From: "jimmy...@hwpg.com" <jimmy...@hwpg.com>
>>>To: HK...@googlegroups.com
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:30:10 PM
>>>Subject: RE: What I saw in Sichuan Mian Yang Zhao Zuozhou
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Ngai & prof. Zhao,
>>>
>>>Thanks for sharing. I known some prinpical and chief enginners of local
>>>design institutes in Chengdu and have inqueried with them on the
>>>situation of the sismic damage.¡õ As per their intrduction, most of RC
>>>structural type buildings designed by the big LDIs can sustain well
>>>during the earthquake just like inspected by prof. Zhao. As an example,
>>>Beichuan middle school collaped during the earthquake while Beichuan
>>>primary school, designed by a big LDI in Chengdu, stands well.
>>>
>>>I think that the seismic design code in China is quite well developed.
>>>The design concept of "СÕð²>>>>µ,ÖÐÕð(Éè·ÀÁÓ¶È)¿ÉÐÞ,´óÕð²>>µ¹" is very
>>>good. It really depends on how much percentage of the buildings
>>>structural design fulfilling the code requirements.
>>>
>>>Best
>>>Zhang Nianquan
>>>
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: HK...@googlegroups.com [mailto:HK...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>>Of Ngai YEUNG
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1:40 PM
>>>To: HK...@googlegroups.com
>>>Subject: Re: What I saw in Sichuan Mian Yang Zhao Zuozhou
>>>
>>>
>>>Prof. Zhao,
>>>
>>>It is so good of you, your colleagues and your U to take the solid
>>>rescue action.¡õ Thanks a lot for sharing with us such valuable
>>>findings and experience.¡õ Wait to see the typical pictures.¡õ About
>>>the collapsed school buildings, should any one of them be classified
>>>as the so-called jerry-built buildings?
>>>
>>>Take care,
>>>Ngai
>>>
>>>
>>>Quoting -\âF¸- <zzz...@mail.tsinghua.edu.cn>:
>>>
>>>
>>>Hello, everyone,
>>>
>>>I just came back from Mianyang yesterday. I went to Mianyang on May
>>>17. As one member of the rescue groups from Tsinghua University, I
>>>stayed their for 9 days. Our main job is safety check of buildings,
>>>such as, the public buildings, school buildings, local governmend
>>>buildings, residential buildings, sport centers and so on. I went to
>>>An Xian, Jiang You, Zi Tong and Ping Wu to help local government to
>>>check the safety of the buildings. Based on our check results, we
>>>stick different marks, such as, "Usable", "Usable after
>>>strengening", "Danger,No enter" and "Unusable", to each checked
>>>building.
>>>
>>>In diferent areas, the earthquake damage is different. I feel the
>>>earthquake damage is serious in Mianyang, especially in its local
>>>counts. We checked more than 190 buildings and found all those
>>>designed and constructioned following the Seismic Design Code, its
>>>damage is relatively light, especially its structure element.
>>>
>>>Most brickworks(brick wall with precast RC slabs,wood roof, with or
>>>without RC ring beams and constructing columns) were damaged
>>>seriously. Most 3-story brickworks(without RC ring beams and
>>>constructing columns, its wall thickness is 120 mm or 180mm)
>>>collapsed. However, among the buildings we checked, there are 2~3
>>>buildings we can not find cracks, as it there were no earthquake
>>>occured.
>>>
>>>Most RC frame buildings and RC frame with shear walls or tubes
>>>behaved well. Most structral members in this kind of buildings do
>>>not crack, but infilled brickworks cracked.
>>>
>>>Most staircases in RC frame buildings and brickworks were damaged.
>>>For precasted staircases, its supports moved and cracked. For cast
>>>in place one, its slab cracked at middle span.
>>>
>>>I will process what I see later and share with you the typical
>>>pictures.
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>
>>>Zhao Zuozhou
>>>
>>>Department of Civil Engineering
>>>Tsinghua University
>>>Beijing 100084
>>>
>>>Tel: 010-62788620(O) 010-82367838(H) 13661303543(M)
>>>Fax:010-62788620
>>>
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Ngai YEUNG <nye...@graduate.hku.hk>
>>> > Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:47:59 +0800
>>> > To: HK...@googlegroups.com
>>> > Subject: Re: A glimpse of the Epicentre - From the Air
>>> >
>>> > check this out - proof of your thought.
>>> > http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_46e7ba41010091pk.html
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Quoting XIONG Zhaohui <david...@yahoo.com>:
>>> >
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ Although most of the buildings are collapse. I still believe the
>>> >¡õ concept of 'No collapse under serious earthquake' is practical
>>>since
>>> >¡õ there are still many buildings stand there.
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ ----- Original Message ----
>>> >¡õ From: Ngai YEUNG <nye...@graduate.hku.hk>
>>> >¡õ To: HK...@googlegroups.com
>>> >¡õ Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:46:40 AM
>>> >¡õ Subject: Fw: A glimpse of the Epicentre - From the Air
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ Lend your helping hands...
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ View these multiple aerial¡õ pictures of the Earth Quake
>>> > Epicentre
>>> >¡õ in
>>> >¡õ China :-
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ -¡õ Turn on the speakers for the 'soft music'.
>>> >¡õ -¡õ Click on the link below, and click on the individual
>>> > pictures.
>>> >¡õ -¡õ Move your mouse (cursor) as if you are the pilot of a
>>> >¡õ helicopter
>>> >¡õ (bird's eye view).
>>> >¡õ -¡õ I cannot tell you to enjoy the slide show, but I must
>>>ask
>>> > you
>>> >¡õ to
>>> >¡õ pray for the victims.
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ ¡õ ¡õ http://umedia.nddaily.com/#20080515-8
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ Up to yesterday, 40,000 deaths and the Chinese Government is
>>> >¡õ expecting
>>> >¡õ the death toll will rise to 70,000 or more.
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ This is also an living example of:¡õ 'geological analysis
>>> > needed
>>> >¡õ before
>>> >¡õ any town-site is chosen'.
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ ¡õ ¡õ ¡õ
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ
>>> >¡õ
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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