Posting Merger votes on the Google Group?
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Francine Shammami (Beta Epsilon President)
Apr 8, 2008, 1:05:06 PM4/8/08
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Hi everyone,
Now that we have ballots and the merger vote is due soon, how do you
feel about posting the way each chapter votes on the group space for
others to know? I've asked Kathy Ricker about it, and she said she
does not know if Nationals can make that information public.
Now that we have ballots and the merger vote is due soon, how do you
feel about posting the way each chapter votes on the group space for
others to know? I've asked Kathy Ricker about it, and she said she
does not know if Nationals can make that information public.
Nick Hardy (Alpha chapter)
Apr 8, 2008, 1:10:57 PM4/8/08
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I think its a good idea. I don't know if we will be able to get that
many to post (especially if a smaller chapter thinks it has made an
unpopular decision), but i think i would be useful. If everyone that
post is against, and it passes, it would be a little suspicious.
On Apr 8, 12:05 pm, "Francine Shammami (Beta Epsilon President)"
many to post (especially if a smaller chapter thinks it has made an
unpopular decision), but i think i would be useful. If everyone that
post is against, and it passes, it would be a little suspicious.
On Apr 8, 12:05 pm, "Francine Shammami (Beta Epsilon President)"
Eddie Pettis
Apr 8, 2008, 1:32:27 PM4/8/08
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On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Nick Hardy (Alpha chapter)
<nha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think its a good idea. I don't know if we will be able to get that
> many to post (especially if a smaller chapter thinks it has made an
> unpopular decision), but i think i would be useful.
<nha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think its a good idea. I don't know if we will be able to get that
> many to post (especially if a smaller chapter thinks it has made an
> unpopular decision), but i think i would be useful.
Beta Chapter = AGAINST
As everyone has probably expected, Beta Chapter voted against the
merger at our meeting last night. I think I speak for Beta when I say
that we support posting votes on a volunteer basis.
--
Eddie Pettis
Electrical and Computer Engineering
Purdue University
Anup Kotadia
Apr 8, 2008, 3:03:08 PM4/8/08
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We will have our meeting for this tomorrow for Iota Lambda. I will post
my chapter's response then.
dav...@gmail.com
Apr 9, 2008, 10:17:49 AM4/9/08
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I must have missed that email - when is the merger vote due?
David
David
Francine Shammami (Beta Epsilon President)
Apr 10, 2008, 8:49:29 AM4/10/08
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The vote is due no later than April 30, 2008.
Francine
Francine
Anup Kotadia
Apr 10, 2008, 3:42:38 PM4/10/08
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Iota Lambda has voted against the merger.
Wes Allen (Beta Alum)
Apr 12, 2008, 2:59:14 PM4/12/08
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On 8 abr, 11:05, "Francine Shammami (Beta Epsilon President)"
I assume by "that information" Kathy Ricker is referring to a chapter-
by-chapter rundown of the voting. However, according to the bylaws,
they have to provide the official record of the convention to all
chapters. This would include AT LEAST the aye-nay counts if not the
chapter-by-chapter voting information (See HKN Bylaw II.4.G).
by-chapter rundown of the voting. However, according to the bylaws,
they have to provide the official record of the convention to all
chapters. This would include AT LEAST the aye-nay counts if not the
chapter-by-chapter voting information (See HKN Bylaw II.4.G).
Andrew Muehlfeld (Alpha - UIUC)
Apr 12, 2008, 3:15:13 PM4/12/08
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I haven't seen the voting materials yet. What is it that we submit?
Is it a yes or no from the chapter, or a tally of individuals' yes and
no votes? Did they comment on whether they will use a simple majority
vote, or a 3/4 vote? What exactly is the vote for? Do they mention
amendments to the constitution?
Is it a yes or no from the chapter, or a tally of individuals' yes and
no votes? Did they comment on whether they will use a simple majority
vote, or a 3/4 vote? What exactly is the vote for? Do they mention
amendments to the constitution?
Chris Kurecka
Apr 13, 2008, 2:30:28 PM4/13/08
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They do not mention amendments to the constitution in the ballot.
They're just saying it's a contract between HKN and IEEE. Nationals
still intends to go forward with a 1/2 vote instead of a 3/4 vote
because of this. It's unclear if they legally can, but that's only
something to worry about if the final tally comes between 1/2 and 3/4.
I believe you only submit a yes/no vote from the chapter, and each
chapter gets one vote.
For full disclosure, Beta Epsilon's bylaws (I don't know if these are
the same everywhere or not) require a 2/3 vote to approve a national
ballot item. We voted yesterday and had 62.5% approve it (35 out of
56), so it was voted against. I suspect this would have been much
lower had the recent call with IEEE and to a lesser extent the meeting
with HKN Nationals not gone so well.
On Apr 12, 3:15 pm, "Andrew Muehlfeld (Alpha - UIUC)"
They're just saying it's a contract between HKN and IEEE. Nationals
still intends to go forward with a 1/2 vote instead of a 3/4 vote
because of this. It's unclear if they legally can, but that's only
something to worry about if the final tally comes between 1/2 and 3/4.
I believe you only submit a yes/no vote from the chapter, and each
chapter gets one vote.
For full disclosure, Beta Epsilon's bylaws (I don't know if these are
the same everywhere or not) require a 2/3 vote to approve a national
ballot item. We voted yesterday and had 62.5% approve it (35 out of
56), so it was voted against. I suspect this would have been much
lower had the recent call with IEEE and to a lesser extent the meeting
with HKN Nationals not gone so well.
On Apr 12, 3:15 pm, "Andrew Muehlfeld (Alpha - UIUC)"
Laurie Miller (Omicron past president)
Apr 15, 2008, 11:45:50 AM4/15/08
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My chapter has voted but not discussed posting our result here. I
submitted a motion to do so to be voted on at our next meeting.
Given what has transpired so far, I think it's a good idea to demand
some form of auditing of the ballots.
submitted a motion to do so to be voted on at our next meeting.
Given what has transpired so far, I think it's a good idea to demand
some form of auditing of the ballots.
Andrew Muehlfeld (Alpha - UIUC)
Apr 21, 2008, 8:48:55 PM4/21/08
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Alpha voted moments ago.
We voted to REJECT the merger.
We voted for STEVE WATKINS as President.
Andrew Muehlfeld
Alpha - UIUC
We voted to REJECT the merger.
We voted for STEVE WATKINS as President.
Andrew Muehlfeld
Alpha - UIUC
Laurie Miller (Omicron past president)
Apr 25, 2008, 1:34:44 PM4/25/08
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Omicron voted against the merger.
Greg Novak (Beta Omicron, Marquette)
Apr 26, 2008, 9:42:45 AM4/26/08
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Beta Omicron voted against
Darren Lo (Mu Chapter Corresponding Secretary Sp 2008)
Apr 27, 2008, 3:25:48 AM4/27/08
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Mu Chapter (University of California Berkeley) voted against. Only a
20.6% approval.
-Darren
On Apr 26, 6:42 am, "Greg Novak (Beta Omicron, Marquette)"
<Gregory.D.No...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Beta Omicron voted against
20.6% approval.
-Darren
On Apr 26, 6:42 am, "Greg Novak (Beta Omicron, Marquette)"
<Gregory.D.No...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Beta Omicron voted against
Thomas (Kappa Phi President - UNCC)
Apr 29, 2008, 3:21:44 PM4/29/08
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Kappa Phi Chapter (University of North Carolina at Charlotte) voted
against the merger. All members (present at the meeting) voted No,
with the exception of 1 member Abstaining.
Still, too many details need to be addressed...
- Thomas Rogers
against the merger. All members (present at the meeting) voted No,
with the exception of 1 member Abstaining.
Still, too many details need to be addressed...
- Thomas Rogers
Shirin
May 1, 2008, 11:27:04 PM5/1/08
to HKN/IEEE merger
Hi,
I'm the Treasurer from Upsilon Chapter at USC.
We have voted against the merger.
-Shirin Nikaein
I'm the Treasurer from Upsilon Chapter at USC.
We have voted against the merger.
-Shirin Nikaein
Blake Hargis (Beta Nu President)
May 2, 2008, 4:17:57 PM5/2/08
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Beta Nu (RPI) voted against the merger.
Jacob (Gamma Mu)
May 3, 2008, 3:51:17 PM5/3/08
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Gamma Mu (Texas A&M) voted AGAINST.
(We just decided to post our vote here at a meeting yesterday.)
(We just decided to post our vote here at a meeting yesterday.)
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