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Oct 3, 2007, 4:49:09 AM10/3/07
to Hipihi
As this game is based in China and China has no copyright laws for its
residents to obay to Im curious how Hipphi are going to police content
If ppl are able to steal txtrs or copy other ppls content and the
majority of HippiHIs players are Chinese then technicaly its likley to
be nightmare.
China like Russia does not govern any form of copy or IP rights at all
in its legal system.
Im curious if this new game is going to succeed they need to be ship
tight on their protection of theft from one player to another and if
the client is the same as SLs' then GLIntercept is a forgone
conclusion and as such this world wont get far in term of development
of an economy w/o serious consideration to theft of content from
resident to resident.

Sue Baskerville ( SuezanneC Baskerville )

Oct 3, 2007, 8:30:08 PM10/3/07
to Hipihi

I am about as far as one could possibly be from being knowledgeable
about Chinese copyright law, plus I'm quoting from Wikipedia, but here
it is anyway:

======== begin wikipedia ========

"In 1980, the PRC became a member of the World Intellectual Property
Organization (WIPO).

It has patterned its IPR laws on the Berne Convention for the
Protection of Literary and Artistic Works and the Agreement on Trade-
Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS).

Mainland China acceded to the Paris Convention for the Protection of
Industrial Property on 14 November 1984 and became an official member
on 19 March 1985. Mainland China also acceded to the Madrid Agreement
for the International Registration of Trademarks in June 1989.

In January 1992, the PRC entered into a Memorandum of Understanding
with the United States government to provide copyright protection for
all American "works" and for other foreign works. Several bilateral
negotiations have been conducted between the two governments. At some
points, trade sanctions were threatened by the two governments over
IPRs issues. At the conclusion of negotiations in 1995, the Sino-US
Agreement on Intellectual Property Rights was signed. In June 1996,
the two governments entered into another agreement protecting American
intellectual property in mainland China.

Generally, once the PRC has acceded to an international treaty, the
People's Courts can quote the provisions of the treaty directly in
deciding an intellectual property infringement case, without reference
to a Chinese domestic law by which the treaty provision is
======== end wikipedia ============

And ....

======== begin wikipedia ===========

"Copyright law

Copyright law is mainly governed by the Copyright Law of the PRC (中华人民共
和国著作权法) and the Implementing Rules for the Copyright Law of the PRC (著作
权集体管理条例), both adopted and promulgated in 1990.

In order to implement the Berne Convention and the Universal Copyright
Convention, as well as bilateral copyright treaties signed between the
PRC and other foreign countries, the PRC government passed the
Regulations on Implementation of International Copyright Treaties
(1992). These have given foreign copyright holders more safeguards in
terms of protecting their rights and interests in mainland China.

Before the PRC acceded to the Berne Convention, computer software was
not treated as a kind of literary work under the Copyright Law. In May
1991, the State Council passed the Computer Software Protection Rules.
Based upon these rules, the Measures for Computer Software Copyright
Registration were formulated by the then Ministry of Engineering
Electronics Industries. These regulations provide a set of rules
covering the definitions of various terms and the registration,
examination and approval of computer software programmes in mainland
China. At the moment both the Berne Convention and these two domestic
computer regulations are co-effective. However, in the event of an
inconsistencies, the Berne Convention prevails.

Though the Berne Convention does not require any copyright
registration, it is necessary to register copyright for literary works
in mainland China, in order to avoid any disputes with regard to
ownership. Nevertheless, registration procedures are not compulsory in
order to receive copyright protection."

=========== end wikipedia ===========

from Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia.

An English translation of a some parts of Chinese copyright law can be
found at . This translation
of Intellectual Property law is provided by the National Copyright
Administration of China. Here's a quote from that source:

== quote of law translated by NCAOC:

Article 2. Works of Chinese citizens, legal entities or entities
without legal personality, whether published or not, shall enjoy
copyright in accordance with this Law. Works of foreigners first
published in the territory of the People's Republic of China shall
enjoy copyright in accordance with this Law. Any work of a foreigner
published outside the territory of the People's Republic of China
which is eligible to enjoy copyright under an agreement concluded
between the country to which the foreigner belongs and China, or under
an international treaty to which both countries are party, shall be
protected in accordance with this Law.

Article 3. For the purposes of this Law, the term ""works" includes
works of literature, art, natural science, social science, engineering
technology and the like which are expressed in the following forms:

(1) written works;

(2) oral works;

(3) musical, dramatic, quyi* and choreographic works; * Quyi refers to
such traditional art forms as ballad singing, story telling, comic
dialogues, clapper talks and cross talks (translator's note).

(4) works of fine art and photographic works;

(5) cinematographic, television and videographic works;

(6) drawings of engineering designs and product designs, and
descriptions thereof;

(7) maps, sketches and other graphic works;

(8) computer software;

(9) other works as provided for in laws and administrative

=== end quote

Regarding "Russian" copyright law, Wikipedia says:

"When the Soviet Union was dissolved and the fifteen republics of the
Soviet Union became independent states, the copyright law of the USSR
also split into fifteen independent copyright laws, each with its own
jurisdiction defined by the territory of the new successor state of
the Soviet Union.[1] All these successor states initially took over
the old Soviet legislation."
== end quote

"The Copyright law of the Russian Federation became effective on
August 3, 1993. It completely replaced the older Soviet legislation
that had been in effect until then. The new Copyright law of 1993 was
based upon WIPO model laws and followed the continental European
tradition: it clearly separated economic and moral rights, and it
included detailed provisions for neighbouring rights."
end quote

===== quote:
"In 2006, completely rewritten intellectual property laws were
included in part IV of a new Civil Code of the Russian Federation.
These new laws were scheduled to enter in force on January 1, 2008,
replacing all previous intellectual property legislation, including
the separate copyright law from 1993."
==== end quote

from Wikipedia,

According to :

The main copyright statute in the Russian Federation is Law of the
Russian Federation on copyright and neighboring rights No. 5351-I of
July 9, 1993 (with changes and amendments introduced by the Federal
Law No. 72-3). Full English text of the statute is available at
=== end quote

Oct 7, 2007, 11:31:09 AM10/7/07
to Hipihi
Actually, I am now working on the IP right protection issue in HiPiHi.
What I can assure you now is that China has a IP right protection
system and HiPiHi will protect the IP rights of its residents'

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