Dhanyvaad Mujhse har ek ki madad keliye

[EmrldAnkh]

मैँ ठीक हिन्दी मेँ बोल्ना cआहती हूँ।  मैँ ठीक हिन्दी मेँ लिख्ना cआहती हूँ।                  मैँ एक वाक्य के लिये क्षमा याचना बनाना चाहती हूँ।   मैँ वक्य कितब के लिये पाती थी।                    I have noticed that between my books even the pronunciation and spelling is different.  The spellings  of the words that I asked about came from my friends in India.  Do the spellings and pronunciations differ from state to state?                                Thank you again,                                                          Peggy

[Yogendra Joshi]

If you are reading Hindi in its own script, Devanagari, then therre should not be a problem, because the pronunciation is uniquely determined by the Devanagari spellings of the words involved. But you have to know the exact spoken sounds associated with the letters and other marks of the text. In principle, there is no variation from palce to place. But minor local effects could be present there. They should not pose serious problems. But if the text is in Roman, then there are definitely problems, and I do not think anybody could help you.। - योगेन्द्र

२००८ नवम्बर १३ २२:२६ को, EmrldAnkh <emrl...@gmail.com> ने लिखा:

[EmrldAnkh]

I translated it from the script, and that is the way they typed it in. I am pretty decent at translating the script into romanized, anyway, I had the email that they had in script in front of me, and kept it the same. Without this board I would be in big trouble.  So I thank you again for your time and efforts to try and help me.   Peggy    -------Original Message-------

[Bob Eaton]

Not to disagree with Yogendra भाई, but I just had an interesting
experience. I was in Bihaar helping at a language workshop and we were
reviewing a text and I asked the native speaker I was working with,
"is this part clear?" (क्‍या यह स्‍पष्‍ट है?) and he replied, "यह
अस्‍पष्‍ट है।" (this is unclear), to which I replied, "what can we do
to fix it?" (हम इसको सुधार करने के लिए क्‍या कर सकते हैं?) and he
replied, "नहीं, यह अस्‍पष्‍ट है।"

Those of you who are familiar with Bihaarii Hindi, already know the
problem: In that area, the word for 'clear' is pronounced अस्‍पष्‍ट
and the word for 'unclear' is pronounced 'औस्‍पष्‍ट' :-)

Just like Spanish speakers, they have a prohibition on initial 's's
(or maybe it's initial 'sp's, I didn't pursue it further) and without
being aware of it, automatically insert a vowel so that the initial
syllable is VC rather than C(C)V. It just so happened, though, that
the vowel they insert makes the word ambiguous :-)

Bob

On Nov 13, 10:17 pm, "Yogendra Joshi" <yogendrapjo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[narayan prasad]

<<Those of you who are familiar with Bihaarii Hindi, already know the problem: In that area, the word for 'clear' is pronounced अस्‍पष्‍ट
and the word for 'unclear' is pronounced 'औस्‍पष्‍ट' :-)>>

 

Although I have come across the former in case of illiterate or under-educated people, the latter I have never experienced in spoken form. So it may be taken as an individual or highly local phenomenon.
 

In initial consonant clusters, it is quite usual in certain parts of India to insert a vowel (अ or इ); e.g.

स्पष्ट ---> अस्पष्ट,

स्थान ---> अस्थान,

स्कूल ---> इस्कूल

 

Punjabis generally remove the initial consonant cluster by insering an "a" sound:

स्कूटर ---> सकूटर
स्क्रीन ---> सक्रीन

 

 

2008/11/16, Bob Eaton <pete_de...@hotmail.com>:

[Jyotsna Gupta]

hi
It is not possible, I think no one can do this, but u can speak pure Hindi which is acceptable any where in India.

2008/11/13 EmrldAnkh <emrl...@gmail.com>