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vikas79654
Subhash ji,
1. Please point me to my post where I have said that inferences are dangerous. What you have written about Mr. Shourie is false assertion and a personal bias not a logically arrived at argument. Why? Because you have no proof. Forgive me for sounding like a music CD in an infinite loop.
2. Reg. the point about journalist destroying politicians careers. Quite ironic that you say it. Isn't this what you are doing, smearing Shourie with outright lies? Of course, it goes without saying, you can't touch Shourie's or his career (he's got the smarts). What was the saying, practice before you preach....
3. Oh, and Sudheendra Kulkarni (not Sudhirendra Kulkarni, as you put it) is there on the Internet.
http://tinyurl.com/2rmrx8
From the above link, he was A.B. Vajpayee's scriptwriter and an
ex-activist of the, in my humble opinion, traitorous communists.
I'm starting to think "Could this error be deliberate"?
Namaste!
vikas
--- In himvani@yahoogroups.com, "Subhash Mendhapurkar" <sutrahp@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Vikas,
> Yes, you may be right when you search on Internet for information,
largely
> you get the information that is supplied by the informer. can you
find out
> about Shri Sudhirendra Kulkarni who was a speech writer for Shri
Atal Bihari
> Bajpai what he was during his youth and early days of his carier. I
would be
> surprised if the Internet tells you that he was a puckka member of Left
> youth movement.
> Shourrie's connections with BJP are atleast known to you - he was
Minister
> in NDA Ministry. The point is as you say, inferences are dangerous,
but when
> one has seen the person long enough, one draws these inferences. The
freedom
> to accept them or not is upto us and I respect your freedom not to
accept my
> inference.
> The point which was discussed was how journalist destroy the carrier of
> politicians without being accountable - like judiciary, the media is
also
> becoming unaccountable and that is dangerous for democracy. There
are large
> instances where the Media has played a very positive and proactive
role but
> there are also equally large instances where media has played havoc.
> Entering some one's personal parties and viedographing it, for me is a
> criminal act and media shall never be made accountable for this and
that is
> tragedy.
> Love
> Subhash Mendhapurkar
>
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Surender,
Firstly, it was precisely for the reason(not to break the flow of the
discussion) I had changed the subject line. Too bad it did not have
the desired effect. Forgive me, I am a novice in yahoo groups.
Secondly, why private e-mails, I assume any person's public response
to mean that he/she is agreeing to a public debate.
Thirdly, i agree to your rule, respect for other point of views but
never for carefully slipped in blatant lies.
Lastly, when you request the Moderators to not approve 'these'
messages, aren't you forgetting your own rule 'Let's respect every
one's views here'?
namaste!
vikas
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Surender Dhaleta
Well Vikas, the only problem is that we tend to dwindle from the topic or from the main theme - Himachal - and end up sadly discussing RSS and fundamentalism. Well, I'm not averse to these topics but that this is not the right forum for that.
And that for us ironically generate the maximum of responses. Each time, we've initiated a debate on development, nobody comes forward. But tomorrow if I'm supposed to take up the topic - RSS, Congress, Muslim/Hindu/Sonia, everyone starts shouting at the top of his/her voice. Not that one is not allowed to But that again this is not the forum to do that.
And ironically, I do not understand why should RSS and BJP and Congress creep into every topic?
Can we not keep them out? Is it necessary that all good/bad work has to be done either by RSS or by Congress?
Why can't HimVani do it? And why can't we all aim and will and strive to make HimVani as iconic as RSS or Congress that people take pride in or blasting HimVani?
This mail goes to about 480 people as of now. But a discussion between two people when others may not be interested and deem it as spam when they've joined the forum because they are interested in Himachal related topics, hence just proves why you should reply directly, especially when you want to write to that person.
And that's why I'll have to end the discussion. From here on, I'll request all to refrain from dwindling from the topics.
I'll suggest if you want to continue the debate in a public forum, use
HimVani.com, We still have the Bali article there. You can debate it out there.
Regards,
Surender
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--- In himvani@yahoogroups.com, "Surender Dhaleta" <dhaleta@...> wrote:
>
> On 14/08/07, vikas79654 vltq@... wrote:
> >
> > Subhash ji,
> >
> > 1. Please point me to my post where I have said that inferences are
> > dangerous. What you have written about Mr. Shourie is false
assertion and a
> > personal bias not a logically arrived at argument. Why? Because you
have no
> > proof. Forgive me for sounding like a music CD in an infinite loop.
> >
> > 2. Reg. the point about journalist destroying politicians careers.
Quite
> > ironic that you say it. Isn't this what you are doing, smearing
Shourie with
> > outright lies? Of course, it goes without saying, you can't touch
Shourie's
> > or his career (he's got the smarts). What was the saying, practice
before
> > you preach....
> >
> > 3. Oh, and Sudheendra Kulkarni (not Sudhirendra Kulkarni, as you put
it)
> > is there on the Internet.
> > http://tinyurl.com/2rmrx8
> > From the above link, he was A.B. Vajpayee's scriptwriter and an
> > ex-activist of the, in my humble opinion, *traitorous* communists.
> >
> > I'm starting to think "*Could this error be deliberate*"?
> >
> > Namaste!
> > vikas
> >
> > --- In himvani@yahoogroups.com, "Subhash Mendhapurkar" sutrahp@
> ढलेटा सॠरेनॠदॠर
कॠमार
>
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Robert
> Nathan
>
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