Reply 1: Repent ! Ask for Forgiveness for committing "Nassie" !!!

[Chief Editor, Hijri Committee of India]

Dear Br. Sultan Alam

Assalaamu Alaikkum wa Rahmathullaahi wa Barakaathu hu

Your mail clearly shows that you are trying to findout some alibi to 

justify your error.

Any astronomer will vouch that the Full Moon will never occur when the moon age 

is 12 days !!!

Not only in this month but in the past too on many occasions your calendar showed 

Full Moon falling on 12th and we have been telling you about this for many years.  

In 1433 itself you had Full Moon on 12th  during Shabaan,  Shawwal, Dhul Qa'da,  Zul Hijjah.   

Only this time you came up with the alibi that at 10:58 GMT, it was not Full Moon in Pakistan!! 

You claim to be an astronomer and such a statement coming from you was least expected.

You know very well that the Full Moon, Conjuntion & Eclipses are all Universal Phenomena 

and they should be expressed and considered according to the Universal Time and Universal Day.  

It is the Hindu traditions to convert the time of Conjunction, Full Moon & eclipses into 

local time so that their rituals are performed coinciding with the time of these 

celestial phenomena.  How come you have succumbed to their beliefs and traditions?? 

NAUDUBILLAH !!

Your dates are not tallying with the moon-phases and hence are contrary to Quran.

We would like to have your answers for the following questions, at the earliest:

1)  Quran says that the phases of moon are the dates.  True or False ?

 

2)  When  calculation of sun is used for the prayer timing, can we use the calculation 

      of moon for starting the new month? If "No",  provide proofs from Quran and authentic hadeeth.

 

3)  Quran says that stages (manaazil) of the moon is for calculating the moon-age and 

      for counting the years.  True or False ?

 

4)   Quran says that the last visible phase of moon is “Urj Oonil Qadeem”.  True or False ?

 

 5)   Quran and hadeeth says that the 24-hour period in Islam starts at Fajr.  True or False ?

For Ques 4 & 5, if your answers are "FALSE", please provide proofs from Quran and authentic hadeeth 

 to prove your stand.

Usually those who insist on seeing the hilaal in order to start the month quote the tail-end 

of a hadeeth. They never quote the full text.  

About the tail-end of the hadeeth, "... Soomu li ruyiathi hi ,,,," we have explained umpteen 

times what it implies.  But still you, who is a "Mufti" do not understand it. It is surprising. 

Or are you pretending unawareness?? If one is asleep, we can easily wake him up.  

But, if someone is pretending, then it is humanly impossible. 

We are re-producing the explanation once again. (Others please pardon us for repetition  !!) 

“Soomoo li ru’uyathihi…..”  is a portion of the Hadhees  which explains the verse 2:189,  

“Yas’aloonaka anil Ahillathi qul hiya mawaakeethu linnasi wal hajji”, meaning 

“They ask you about the phases of the moon, tell them they are dates for the people and Hajj”.  

Asbabul Nuzul of Verse 2:189, clearly states that the Sahaba (RA) were asking about the 

waxing and waning phases of the moon.

 

Thafseer Ibn Kathir explains quoting the full-text of the Hadhees  “Ja’alallahul ahillatha 

mawaakeetha linnasi fa soomoo li ru’uyathihi wa afthiroo li ru’uyathihi, ......

 (Allah has appointed phases of the moon as dates for the people, so fast according to its view 

and celebrate Eidul Fitre according to its view .....). 

"Hi" means not crescent as conceived by the majority. It is the 'moon with its phases'. 

 

 

Quran which came to lead people from darkness to light will not lead 

them to darkness. 

We can see how Dr.  Yusuf Qaradawi explains this Hadhees.  

He says:“In the language of the faqeeh, we might say that the hadith both 

indicates an objective and specific means for achieving it. The objective in the 

hadith is clear, to fast the entire month of Ramadan without missing a single day, 

or without fasting in a month other than Ramadan, like Sha’ban or Shawwal. 

And that is to take place through ascertaining the beginning of the new 

month, and the end of the old one, by any means possible, so long as such

 means are available to the general populace without causing them hardship 

or difficulty in their religion.” 

 

 

In Quran 2:189, Almighty Allah says that the "Ahillah" are the dates for the mankind and 

for Hajj.  Why "Hajj" was mentioned?

 

Hajj has to be performed on 6 fixed days - Zul Hijja 8th to 13th and dates must tally 

with 8th to 13th moon phases.  Subuhaanallah !!  

You have also written that "Those All people are wrong (ضال، گمراہ) who says that starting 

the month after seeing the hilaal is Bida’t."

If it is a Sunnah, why cannot you produce atleast one authentic 

hadeeth which says that the Prophet (Sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) 

ever went in search of the hilaal on the western sky or asked the 

Sahaba (RA) to do so.

Till you or anyone else produce such a hadeeth, the 

sighting of hilaal in order to start the new month 

is a Bid'ah.

We request you to stop propagating a Bid'ah.

If new months have to be started on seeing the hilaal, you have to agree that there will

 be a minimum of three calendars in the world.   If that is what Islam implies, 

how can Lailathul Qadar which falls on the odd day in the last ten days occur 

in this world ?? If it is odd day for a few, it will be even for others !!

So, it is crystal clear that the sighting of the hilaal is not the criteria to start 

the new month nor it is the one advised by our beloved Prophet 

(Sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) as such a criteria compels the Muslims

 to have a minimum of three calendars, with odd and even dates for a single week-day !!

You all have misunderstood the word "Ru'uya"  in the above quoted hadeeth.   

You say that it means only "seeing" ! It does not only mean "seeing with naked eye".  

The word ‘Ru’uya’ is from the verb “ra’aa” which means ‘to see’ or ‘understand‘. 

The word ra’aa is used in many places in Quran in different meanings - to see,  

to know,  to understand etc.    ‘Ru’uya’ the noun form of “ ra’aa ”  can be translated 

as “sight, view, appearance” etc in English. In Quran it is used in both the meanings 

“to see” as well as to “understand".  

 

 The Quran explains Ra’aa in its different meanings beautifully in verse 37:102  

“And when his son was old enough to walk about with him he said: 

Oh, my son. I have seen (Araa) in a dream that I am slaughtering you. 

So look, what do you think (tharaa) ! He said: ‘Oh, my father ! 

Do what you are commanded, you shall find me Insha Allah 

among the patient’ ”.

 

We must interpret words in Hadhees  without contradicting Quran. 

Sahaba (RA) were following the Prophet (Sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) who 

observed the phases of the moon throughout the year, especially the month 

of Shabaan.  But those who insist on sighting the moon search for it only on 

three or four occasions !!!

They (RA) were also not like you who start the month on the 2nd or 3rd day 

of the month and get Full Moon on 12th !!!!

What you have to say about the Solar eclipse falling on your 27th day 

of Zul Hijjah 1433 ?????  How will you justify about your wrong calendar?? 

Hope you  will accept the fault  and repent to Almighty Allah.

Ahmadiyyas (Qadiyaanis)  who are not within the fold of Islam claim that 

solar eclipse will fall on 27th or 28th.   Your calendar is supporting their claim !!!!

Either you correct your calendar  or your stand  indirectly implies as correct 

 the ideology/claim of Ahmadiyyas (Qadiyaanis). NAUDUBILLAH !!

Realise your mistake  !! Repent  !!  Life is short  !!

May Almighty Allah forgive all our sins, errors and faults and may He, the Almighty 

 provide all of us with a place in Jannathul Firdouse.  Aameen

Wa Salaam 

For HIJRI COMMITTEE OF INDIA

S. N. Mohamed Sultan
(Chief Editor)

HIJRI COMMITTEE OF INDIA
7/858 B, AWH Building
S. M. STREET
KOZHIKODE - 673001. INDIA
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On 29 October 2012 20:51, sultan alam <sultan...@yahoo.com> wrote:

1.Moon is not full this time at 10:58 GMT, it will become full after sunset in Pakistan i.e. on 13^th night hence there is no problem.

2.this demand has no meaning that provide authentic hadeeeth which 

says that the Prophet (Sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) ever went in search 

of a hilaal on the western sky

because

Our prophet Sallallaho-alaihi-wasallam said:

صوموا لرؤيته وأفطروا لرؤيته

We all know that here ro’yat means is actual sighting not calculation because prophet Sallallaho-alaihi-wasallam did not use calculations to start Islamic month as he said:

إنا أمة أمية لا نكتب ولا نحسب الشهر هكذا وهكذا

 يعني مرة تسعة وعشرين ومرة ثلاثين

Sahabah always used to start the months by sighting not by calculation.

PS:

Those All people are wrong (ضال، گمراہ) who says that starting the month after seeing the hilaal is Bida’t.

I don’t like to communicate with such persons.

Nowadays emailing and answering is difficult for me as well.

 

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From: "Chief Editor, Hijri Committee of India" <edito...@gmail.com>
To: sultan...@yahoo.com
Cc:
Sent: Monday, 29 October 2012 11:26 AM
Subject: Repent ! Ask for Forgiveness for committing "Nassie" !!!

Dear Br. Sultan Alam

Assalaamu Alaikkum wa Rahmathullaahi wa Barakaathu hu

Today (Monday) is the Full Moon and the date as per the moon-phases

is 14th of Zul Hijjah.

But you have started this month on Thursday and according to you today's date

is 12th !!!!!

How can a Full Moon occur on the 12th day of a month ???

We have been asking you this question for several years, but you who

start the new months after seeing the hilaal and who regularly get 

Full Moon on your 12th have not answered us. The worst part is that 

you have not relaised (or is it intentional?) the mistake and keep on 

propagating the Bid'ah of starting the month after seeing the hilaal.

We have also been asking you to provide authentic hadeeeth which 

says that the Prophet (Sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) ever went in search 

of a hilaal on the western sky or asked the Sahaba (RA) to do so.  As long 

as you are unable to quote  such a hadeeth, you and all who start the 

months after seeing the hilaal on the western sky are indulged in Bid'ah. 

We would like to get views of  Br. Omar Afzal,  Br. Khalid Shaukat &  Br. Sheikh 

Zafar Salman also on this Bid'ah.  They are also welcome to provide such a 

hadeeth to prove their stand.

We have also warned you about the gravity of your misdeed and its consequences 

and obstacles created by your unwise, unfounded acts in the spread of

Islam.  

How can you explain to the non-muslims when they ask why they are being

invited to a religion which has a calendar showing the Full Moon occurring 

on a 12th ???

The Full Moon on 14th also indicates that this month will end with 29 days

on Tuesday.

Those who have started this month on Wednesday are also equally liable for

presenting Islam in an inappropriate way.

On Tuesday, 29th day as per the moon-phases, (13 Nov) there is a Total 

Solar Eclipse.  Solar Eclipse marks the end of a month.   Through  a

 Solar Eclipse,  Almighty Allah is clearly showing the mankind, how a month 

ends and when a new month starts. In fact visually showing what Quran says 

in 36:40, "It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, ...".

It is the moon which overtakes the sun.  

This is exactly what is happening during Conjunction & Eclipse. Subhaanallah !!

The beauty is that this verse follows the one which describes the "Urj Oonil Qadeem".

Allahu Akbar !! Almighty Allah has vividly described in sequence  the "Urj" which

is the last visible phase of the moon and the conjunction (It is not for the sun to overtake 

the moon, .....)   following the "Urj".

 "Fabiayyi alaai rabbikumaa tukaththibaan "  (Then which of the Blessings

 of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny?)

The Total Solar Eclipse of Tuesday (13 Nov) is a Sign of Almighty Allah.

Those who have started this month on Wednesday will have a date of 28 on this 

Eclipse day and those who started it on Thursday will have a date of 27  !!!

We are sorry to tell that both the groups are in error. They have openly transgressed

the limits.  Our beloved Prophet (Sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) has prescribed

a minimum of 29 days for a month.  But, both these groups have gone contrary to 

an authentic hadeeth and their months will end  either with 28  or 27 days !!!

NAUDUBILLAH.

We request all who have started Zul Hijjah on Wednesday and Thursday

to repent and ask for forgiveness from Almighty Allah, for indulging in a Bid'ah

and for committing "Nassie". 

We warn all that if the dates are not corrected immediately, they will 

start the month of Muharram on wrong days,  again committing 

"Nassie" which is 'ziadathun fil kufr" (Quran 9:37).

They should be aware of the impending danger in committing the same sin repeatedly, 

even after being warned.

May Almighty Allah forgive all our sins, faults and errors and may He, the Almighty 

provide all of us with a place in Jannathul Firdouse.  Aameen

 Wa Salaam

For HIJRI COMMITTEE OF INDIA

S. N. Mohamed Sultan
(Chief Editor)

HIJRI COMMITTEE OF INDIA
7/858 B, AWH Building
S. M. STREET
KOZHIKODE - 673001. INDIA
www.hijracalendar.com  www.hijracalendar.in  www.mooncalendar.in  www.hijracalendar.org