Laundry Detergent Donation?
Acru Fox
Detergent as a donation? We recently purchased an He Washing machine and
even at half the amount it suds up too much for a front loader, so there
isn't really a point to have these three bottles just sitting around.
Thanks in advance
kozmo
the Dartmouth SPCA will take it.
Rick Walker
"Acru Fox" wrote:
>
> Do these food donation boxes I see in the grocery store also accept
> Laundry
> Detergent as a donation? We recently purchased an He Washing machine and
> even at half the amount it suds up too much for a front loader, so there
> isn't really a point to have these three bottles just sitting around.
>
> Thanks in advance
If the food boxes don't take it, maybe the bins that accept clothes would,
Acru Fox. You know (or expect) that the Red Cross, Diabetes Society or
whomever owns the bin would wash those clothes before they're either sold or
distributed. Also, some of the shelters and half-way homes in Metro would
probably welcome it as well. Shelters like Adsum House.
Some could use it, for sure.
Acru Fox
donations.
The donation bins at Sobeys took them, although with some stupidity. First
they wondered where I was going with two bags full of bottles of laundry
soap, had to explain that I was donating them. I then made my way over to
the bin where another employee came over and was concerned that they didn't
accept opened bottles of laundry detergent.
Not sure how exactly you would prove it considering you can just go to the
isle where the laundry detergent is and unscrew the cap and see/smell the
soap inside. (3 bottles were new and the 4th was 80% full)
Hopefully it makes it to those who need it :)
"Rick Walker" <R...@WR.com> wrote in message
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Rob
> If the food boxes don't take it, maybe the bins that accept clothes would,
> Acru Fox. You know (or expect) that the Red Cross, Diabetes Society or
> whomever owns the bin would wash those clothes before they're either sold or
> distributed. Also, some of the shelters and half-way homes in Metro would
> probably welcome it as well. Shelters like Adsum House.
>
> Some could use it, for sure.
>
>
If you give to Diabetic Society do it anonymously. Don't give contact
information unless you want a new friend for life.
J
Keep in mind everything that goes in the Diabetes Society boxes ends
up at Value Village. The Diabetes Society is paid a few pennies per
pound of whatever is collected and every other penny of profit goes
directly to the private individual and his son in the USA who own the
outlets. It's basically a scam.
kozmo
lol
kozmo
>
> Have you complained to their HO?
Canadian Blood services are the same way, you give blood once and
they're constantly calling.
Al Smith
You got that right. They keep right on sending their flyers long
after the person they are sending them to is dead.
-Al-
J
> On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:09:46 -0700 (PDT), J <jvang...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Have you complained to their HO?
Is it technically a scam? Well that's a matter of personal opinion.
They call asking for donations of used clothing and other items as a
fundraiser for the Canadian Diabetes Association (or Big Brothers Big
Sisters or god knows what other associations). You assume that the CBS
or Big Brothers will sell you stiff and the profits will go to their
society and their patrons. Only too happy to help the diabetics and
medical research, or pay for some bowling nights for a big brother and
a little kid, eh?
What really happens is that Value Village, owned by private equity
investment firm Freeman Spogli and Company (they bought it under the
name Savers from a private family in 2005 for $550 million US), takes
all your stuff to sell in their stores and gives the Canadian Diabetes
Society some miniscule amount per pound of crap they pick up from your
doorstep.
In other words you get a call from a charity, you pack all this stuff
up assuming the charity will come get it and sell it, like the local
softball team might do a bottle drive. What actually happens is the
charity sells their name to a for-profit company to gain your trust,
and the company sells it for profit, giving a tiny amount back to the
charity.
Much better off dealing with the Salvation Army or the Parker Street
Furniture Bank, etc.
Rick Walker
"J" wrote:
Keep in mind everything that goes in the Diabetes Society boxes ends
up at Value Village. The Diabetes Society is paid a few pennies per
pound of whatever is collected and every other penny of profit goes
directly to the private individual and his son in the USA who own the
outlets. It's basically a scam.
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No charity scam shocks me anymore - I give to the Heart Foundation and the
Canadian Cancer Society; both diseases have hit either side of my family,
and I like to think my little bit goes towards saving someone else's life
someday. Me? Pfft... I'm not going anywhere soon. :)
Rick Walker
"Al Smith" wrote:
>
> You got that right. They keep right on sending their flyers long after the
> person they are sending them to is dead.
>
Send one back... "from the grave", and let them have it Al. :)
Wayne Hines
The Canadian Diabetes Society website says they get $32 million annually
from the sale of items to Value Village.
gwh
Rick Walker
"Wayne Hines" wrote:
>
> The Canadian Diabetes Society website says they get $32 million annually
> from the sale of items to Value Village.
>
And the guys that pick up their used clothing use laundry detergent too, so
you're never quite sure where it ends up. I'd give it to a friend - or a
Laundromat. That's why I mentioned shelters earlier. I'm sure they would
appreciate it.
J
Yes it's one helluva successful business model that Spogli and Company
is running. They're raking in a huge amount on the lie.
Wayne Hines
It's not all bad, John. Some of the "charities" involved seem to be quite
happy with the arrangement:
gwh
Carter
What lie is that?
Carter
Al Smith
I doubt they have a sense of humor. All they want is the money.
-Al-
Al Smith
This is interesting to know about Value Village, although it
doesn't surprise me in the least. Organized charities are
money-making rackets, run for profit. That's just the way it is.
They prey upon the good will of the general population to line
their own pockets.
-Al-
Ice Age
>
> This is interesting to know about Value Village, although it doesn't
> surprise me in the least. Organized charities are money-making rackets,
> run for profit. That's just the way it is. They prey upon the good will
> of the general population to line their own pockets.
>
> -Al-
It's interesting, Al, but I really don't care who makes the profit.
90% of what I wear comes from there or the Sally Ann Thrift Store. I
don't care what kind of scam is behind it. If I can get a pair of $50
trousers for $4.99, I'll take them. I have better things to spend my
money on than clothes. Beats giving the money to whoever runs "Old
Navy", "Dockers" and the like.
When I travel, I load up on 5-7 $1 tee-shirts from these places and
toss them in the garbage after 1-2 days wear. Makes for a light
suitcases, and I am saving the planet by not polluting everything with
detergents.
--
Ice!
James Warren
Does any of the money they collect go to their stated purpose?
--
jw
Rick Walker
Send by Purolator a bunch of pennies, stating this is all that person had
left in this world, and they would not have wanted it to go anywhere else.
But do this *just before* you move out of your house. That should put an
end to that nonsense and make your move that much lighter too!
Rick Walker
"J" wrote:
Keep in mind everything that goes in the Diabetes Society boxes ends
up at Value Village. The Diabetes Society is paid a few pennies per
pound of whatever is collected and every other penny of profit goes
directly to the private individual and his son in the USA who own the
outlets. It's basically a scam.
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More Canadian money leaving Canada, and it comes from those too unfortunate
to purchase new clothing (not that the money from all stores stays in Canada
either). Not all of their clothing goes to the poor, either - I have
grabbed a coat, a couple of tee-shirts, you know, things that you could need
for a project and you want to keep your good clothing safe and clean. And
my wife has bought the odd thing or two there as well.
I would much prefer seeing a box where I know the donations will reach their
point, free of charge, and even if they assist someone who needs it just one
night, that would be fine with me. Places that need it though - half-way
houses, Phoenix, Adsum... places where people enter with nothing. A fresh
change of clothing could do wonders for the self-esteem of a person.
J
That's a great article and it lays out the facts quite nicely. It's
sad that there's so much competition for donations that organizations
have to stoop to that level.
What I mean is playing the emotional violin so that people will
actually bag up their surplus things based on the basic human instinct
to make a donation of some survival item to someone else who's doing
without. The complaint is that the whole image is deceptive.
J
The lie that the value of your donation is to benefit the Canadian
Diabetes Society.
Considering that 80% (or so) of the profit from the sale goes to a
private corporation it's a pretty deceptive sales pitch.
Carter
Who said that?
>
> Considering that 80% (or so) of the profit from the sale goes to a
> private corporation it's a pretty deceptive sales pitch.
What sales pitch?
Carter
J
"Would you like to make a onation to the Canadian Diabetes Association"
Al Smith
I don't think that using clothing once and throwing it away
qualifies as environmentalism.
-Al-
Rick Walker
"Al Smith" wrote:
>
> I don't think that using clothing once and throwing it away qualifies as
> environmentalism.
>
Shirts can be worn again (with some cleaning), and Ice's travel light idea
seems perfect for a short jaunt. You're clean every day, no body odour and
the shirt looks new, If they're new and warn once, perhaps there's a market
for them.
One of them signed *ICE AGE* might become a collectible; or at least a good
family heirloom to pass along the family lines.
The real point of this situational ... some poor bugger needs clothing, and
that's sad. We need better, and more truthful and transparent booking, and
we should be allowed to vote with more power.
But we'd need someone to vote for first - the current parties simply toe the
line.
Brian Smith
>
> The lie that the value of your donation is to benefit the Canadian
> Diabetes Society.
>
> Considering that 80% (or so) of the profit from the sale goes to a
> private corporation it's a pretty deceptive sales pitch.
The reality of this is, that the 80% is a larger percentage than other
"fundraisers" give to the charity that they solicit the donations they
raise. I know that companies that were raising monies for the NS Lung
Association in the late seventies were keeping 90% of the amount donated
for administrative purposes (wages and other operational expenses, as
well as their reason for being in business to turn a profit for their
owners).
Wayne Hines
> On Jun 13, 9:14 pm, Wayne Hines <w.d.hi...@unspammed.ns.sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>> It's not all bad, John. Some of the "charities" involved seem to be
>> quite happy with the arrangement:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/29xmlxe
>>
>> gwh
>
> That's a great article and it lays out the facts quite nicely. It's sad
> that there's so much competition for donations that organizations have
> to stoop to that level.
Could be worse. It could be a 24-hour telethon, or a big lottery with the
associated annoying TV commercials.
> What I mean is playing the emotional violin so that people will actually
> bag up their surplus things based on the basic human instinct to make a
> donation of some survival item to someone else who's doing without. The
> complaint is that the whole image is deceptive.
We sometimes "dispose" of unneeded/unwanted clothing through the Diabetes
Society. It's a decision we made, knowing what happens to the items. We
knew they would be sold to Value Village who would sell some of the items
for considerably more than what they paid.
gwh
Rob
> When I travel, I load up on 5-7 $1 tee-shirts from these places and toss
> them in the garbage after 1-2 days wear. Makes for a light suitcases,
> and I am saving the planet by not polluting everything with detergents.
>
Plus you're keeping children employed ;-) Good for you.
KD
> On Jun 13, 6:34 pm, Mick Walker <Suxstob...@whereiam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:09:46 -0700 (PDT), J <jvang...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >On Jun 13, 1:34 pm, "Rick Walker" <R...@WR.com> wrote:
> > >> "Acru Fox" wrote:
>
> > >> > Do these food donation boxes I see in the grocery store also accept
> > >> > Laundry
> > >> > Detergent as a donation? We recently purchased an He Washing machine and
> > >> > even at half the amount it suds up too much for a front loader, so there
> > >> > isn't really a point to have these three bottles just sitting around.
>
> > >> > Thanks in advance
>
> > >> If the food boxes don't take it, maybe the bins that accept clothes would,
> > >> Acru Fox. You know (or expect) that the Red Cross, Diabetes Society or
> > >> whomever owns the bin would wash those clothes before they're either sold or
> > >> distributed. Also, some of the shelters and half-way homes in Metro would
> > >> probably welcome it as well. Shelters like Adsum House.
>
> > >> Some could use it, for sure.
>
> > >up at Value Village. The Diabetes Society is paid a few pennies per
> > >pound of whatever is collected and every other penny of profit goes
> > >directly to the private individual and his son in the USA who own the
> > >outlets. It's basically a scam.
>
> > I can't believe that the Diabetes Society is scamming donators!
>
> > Have you complained to their HO?
>
> they're constantly calling.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
I'm SO sick of them calling. Every time they call (if I even pick up
the call) I think I'm going to tell them to just lose my phone number,
I'll come when I'm ready. I never make appointments when they call
anyhow, I go when it's convenient for me, which I generally don't know
weeks in advance.
They're moving though, which will make it handier for me to donate
blood. They're going to the Village at Bayers Road, I don't remember
when.
KD
Rob
> I think the rot set in when they created CBS, the Red Cross always did
> a good job.
Tell that to the people who contracted Hep C and AIDS because part of
their blood source came from maximum security jails in California. They
could have done better testing but decided saving money was more important.
Krever Inquiry
http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0009152
"The Canadian RED CROSS SOCIETY, which bore the brunt of bad publicity
though only a portion of the blame, was..."
KD
> On 6/14/2010 8:29 AM, lucretiabor...@fl.it wrote:
>
> > I think the rot set in when they created CBS, the Red Cross always did
> > a good job.
>
> Tell that to the people who contracted Hep C and AIDS because part of
> their blood source came from maximum security jails in California. They
> could have done better testing but decided saving money was more important.
>
>
> "The Canadian RED CROSS SOCIETY, which bore the brunt of bad publicity
> though only a portion of the blame, was..."
Yes, I have an uncle out west who has Hep C from a blood transfusion
many years ago. A strange story there. He was cleaning a weapon at the
time (which unfortunately was loaded) and ended up shooting himself in
the abdomen. At first things seemed very dire, as from the location of
the wound, it appeared to go right into his kidney.
'Sort of' fortunately for my uncle, he learned that day that he had
only one kidney, and it wasn't on that side that was injured. The
unfortunate part was that he got tainted blood.
KD
Ice Age
>
>
> I don't think that using clothing once and throwing it away qualifies as
> environmentalism.
>
> -Al-
Trust me, Al, the stuff I buy for travelling is one wear away from
the garbage to begin with. My point is, for $5-7 you can spend a week
in another city and not have to lug a lot of clothes back and forth.
Every major city in Canada has a Value Village or Sally Ann. Don't even
carry them with you -- hit the first cheap used clothes store in Ottawa,
Toronto, or wherever you go, get your weeks worth of throw-away stuff,
and come home empty handed. No checked baggage, no laundry, no nuisance.
The saving the planet aspect is secondary! :-)
--
Ice!
Al Smith
My father had three kidneys.
-Al-
Al Smith
The small amount of traveling that I've done has taught me to
always travel as light as possible, so I'm not saying your
practice is all bad. However, clothing is less harmful to the
environment when it is reused. Mind you, by buying second hand you
are reusing.
-Al-
Rich Johnson
> This is true, however, in their slight defence, it was in the early days
> of HIV - before the full ramifications were clear. Not that I clear
> them of all blame by any means, still they did do the collecting and
> dealing with donors part well.
My mum had a friend, a hematologist, who was involved in some of the
medical decision making at the time. Some of it came down to the simple
fact of if they didn't use the blood products then the patient would die.
What were the doctors to do?
--
Rich
Enfield NS
Canada
Al Smith
> I seem to remember that was how the case of the little two year old
> who contracted HIV at the IWK was resolved. The parents sued but
> didn't get anywhere because it was shown that sadly it was either way.
> Giving the blood had prolonged his life and he died of another cause
> unfortunately. Nobody can guarantee anything like that, as I now know
> so well with the mess they made of my knee replacement.
Two surgical procedures I would never have done. Knee replacements
and laser eye surgery. Doctors *do* make mistakes. These things
are too critical to allow them to screw up.
-Al-
Rick Walker
"Al Smith" wrote:
>
> Two surgical procedures I would never have done. Knee replacements and
> laser eye surgery. Doctors *do* make mistakes. These things are too
> critical to allow them to screw up.
>
I have a different feeling about knee replacements - I watched my wife's
recovery - about 3 days - and she never once used a cane or a crutch. She
walks up and down stairs (an effort before), and I've even caught her
running down the stairs once or twice.
Now the eye surgery thing? I've given up on the progressive glasses - I'm
taking them back, getting distance only for when I'm in the car, and readers
for computer work and reading books. Screw that "tilt you head" so you can
see bullshit. I find when I'm wearing the progressives I have to take them
off to speak to someone face to face.
What's the use of that? Glasses that are supposed to adjust to any distance
should work when you're a couple of feet away from someone's face - but
these don't. And no, I wouldn't consider eye surgery at all. My Dad had
it, but still required reading glasses for close-up work. He could drive
without a problem though, reading road signs that I can't without the
distance glasses.
Each to their own, I guess.
Al Smith
> anaesthetist.
Really? That could be dangerous. The gas kills a lot of people.
-Al-