getting a little snow in there are you?
tom
Rick Walker
"tom" wrote:
>
> <http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=XGO>
>
That ol' wind sure is picking up out there, tom.
tom
> That ol' wind sure is picking up out there, tom.
I've shovelled out three times since late yesterday afternoon- about
eight inches each time. I've been in long enough to grab a sandwich and
coffee (NOT going back out ..) and there's at least another three down
since I came in- and I'm only just on the edge of the yellow blotch ...
Rick Walker
"tom" wrote:
>
> I've shovelled out three times since late yesterday afternoon- about
> eight inches each time. I've been in long enough to grab a sandwich and
> coffee (NOT going back out ..) and there's at least another three down
> since I came in- and I'm only just on the edge of the yellow blotch ...
>
Our superintendent's been out a few times today too, but if I lived in a
house I'd be tempted to leave it until tomorrow - this wet stuff that's
coming down right now combined with the wind would make for mighty ugly
work.
tom, I have to ask... what is this "yellow blotch" of which you speak? ;-)
Wayne Hines
Did you notice the purple blotch about a half hour, or so, ago? Sucks to
be there.
gwh
Rick Walker
"Wayne Hines" wrote:
>
> Did you notice the purple blotch about a half hour, or so, ago? Sucks to
> be there.
>
I guess I should click links to see these marvelous colours. :-)
Warren
Can't have a snow storm without a few power outages as well.
http://www.nspower.ca/en/home/residential/outageinformation/livepoweroutagemap/liveoutagemap.aspx
Rick Walker
"Donna Whitman" wrote:
>
> I prefer to go out a few times like that too rather than wait until it
> stops and the snow is up to the top of my tires. The last time I went
> out, it was more rain than snow and it was making what was already
> down VERY heavy. I think I've had it for today. Unless the plow shows
> up and wants us to move to clear the parking spaces, I'm staying put.
> If Kevin has a medical emergency (which is why I like to keep his side
> of the car clear), I'll call an ambulance.
>
That's about all one can do Donna - that wet stuff is supposed to turn over
to rain later, I think. Wet, windy and wild out there!
Rick Walker
"Warren" wrote:
>
> Can't have a snow storm without a few power outages as well.
> http://www.nspower.ca/en/home/residential/outageinformation/livepoweroutagemap/liveoutagemap.aspx
>
Bedford and Sackville are awfully close... oh-oh. :-(
Rob
> That's about all one can do Donna - that wet stuff is supposed to turn
> over to rain later, I think. Wet, windy and wild out there!
I like to have bare ground when the rain starts up, like now. That way
the rain can clean the rest out and if it freezes like it will tomorrow
night I'm not caught with my pants down. I might go out tomorrow ow and
move some snow banks further back, make room for future snow :-(
Rob
>
> Can't have a snow storm without a few power outages as well.
> http://www.nspower.ca/en/home/residential/outageinformation/livepoweroutagemap/liveoutagemap.aspx
>
Mine was out for about 45 minutes this morning and just enough to rest
the clocks 30 minutes ago. Not enough to get the generator going :-(
Wayne Hines
They're on Environment Canada's weather radar images.
gwh
Rick Walker
"Rob" wrote:
>
> I like to have bare ground when the rain starts up, like now. That way the
> rain can clean the rest out and if it freezes like it will tomorrow night
> I'm not caught with my pants down. I might go out tomorrow ow and move
> some snow banks further back, make room for future snow :-(
>
I'll bet the sales of bags of salt will be on the rise soon. Although rain
is in the forecast for later tonight, Winter's going to be here for a while
yet.
Rick Walker
"Wayne Hines" wrote:
>
> They're on Environment Canada's weather radar images.
>
Yeah, I finally looked - I thought tom had made his own "yellow blotch" in
the snow, lol. :-)
Rob
> I'll bet the sales of bags of salt will be on the rise soon. Although
> rain is in the forecast for later tonight, Winter's going to be here for
> a while yet.
And I'll be you're correct. I don't use salt because it is bad for the
environment and it could eventually end up in my plumbing. I do have
plenty of sand though, if need be.
tom
> I guess I should click links to see these marvelous colours. :-)
yup yup yup ... that would work ...
try it again: if that doesn't work, have another one 8~)
<http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=XGO>
on the right side:
Customize your map:
>more cities
>long
right where a horizontal line from Caledonia to Lunenburg intersects the
shore is the drift I'm under
Rick Walker
"Rob" wrote:
>
> And I'll be you're correct. I don't use salt because it is bad for the
> environment and it could eventually end up in my plumbing. I do have
> plenty of sand though, if need be.
>
We'll keep a bag of salt in the trunk, just in case. I believe this place
uses both sand and salt... as long as we can get out from the underground
parking, it's in the building's hands how they choose to deal with it.
One of the few good things renting offers.
tom
> I thought tom had made his own "yellow blotch" in the snow
several over the last couple of days, actually ...
when you get done ooohing and aaaahing over the radar, try
<http://tinyurl.com/2c9w5w>
pick <48 images> at the bottom, then <play> at the top
<http://tinyurl.com/3ask72>
shows why Dawg, in Her Infinite Wisdom, created the Caribbean at this
time of year ...
Rick Walker
"tom" wrote:
>
> yup yup yup ... that would work ...
> try it again: if that doesn't work, have another one 8~)
>
Too early for that... maybe. :)
> <http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=XGO>
> on the right side:
> Customize your map:
> >more cities
> >long
> right where a horizontal line from Caledonia to Lunenburg intersects the
> shore is the drift I'm under
>
But you have great connectivity under that drift!
Rick Walker
Very cool - just showed my wife and she didn't know that option was even
available on the map.
You can hear the rain outside belting against the BBQ cover; I just opened
the door and it's turned to rain already, a balmy + 1 Celsius and a bit of a
stiff breeze. Fingers crossed for overnight.
Halifax_Hooligan
> Can't have a snow storm without a few power outages as well.http://www.nspower.ca/en/home/residential/outageinformation/livepower...
>
>
>
> Rick Walker wrote:
>
> > "tom" wrote:
>
> >> <http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=XGO>
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Why do people expect the power to stay on in weather like this? NSP
could raise your rates 300 - 400 % and bury all their lines if that
wouldmake you happy.
Al Smith
Seems to be over now. I shoveled earlier, thinking it was turning
to rain, and it turned back to snow and came down in force. I
shoveled the whole driveway a second time, and now I'm waiting for
Mr. Plow to dump a four-foot wall in the end for me to shovel
again. Taking the rain into account, which compacts the snow when
it falls, it looks to me as if we got around 8 inches here.
-Al-
Rick Walker
"Halifax_Hooligan" wrote:
Why do people expect the power to stay on in weather like this? NSP
could raise your rates 300 - 400 % and bury all their lines if that
wouldmake you happy.
--------------------
I expect the power to go out, Hooligan. I hope that it doesn't, but during
windstorms I've come to expect it.
Rick Walker
"Al Smith" wrote:
>
> Seems to be over now. I shoveled earlier, thinking it was turning to rain,
> and it turned back to snow and came down in force. I shoveled the whole
> driveway a second time, and now I'm waiting for Mr. Plow to dump a
> four-foot wall in the end for me to shovel again. Taking the rain into
> account, which compacts the snow when it falls, it looks to me as if we
> got around 8 inches here.
>
We stayed inside all day, not bothering to venture out in that mess. I was
in the den around 2:00 when I looked out the window to see how the streets
looked, but couldn't see anything through the iced-up Plexiglas of the
balcony. If I can't see outside, I don't go outside. :-)
Rick Walker
"Donna Whitman" wrote:
>
> There is stuff called ice melter that is apparently more
> environmentally friendly. I keep a container of it in my trunk for
> emergencies. I know it works faster than salt and will work at colder
> temps too.
>
Babs seems to remember seeing a container of "some kinda blue stuff" in her
travels, Donna. It's like salt... little blue crystals. Sound like the
same stuff to you? It would make getting out of a slippery situation a
little bit quicker than salt - which is just what we'd want.
Rick Walker
"Donna Whitman" wrote:
>
> It's pure rain out there now. I was out for a brief period and had to
> hang my ski coat on the shower pole to drip dry and towel dry my hair.
> I told the plow driver that I know he likes making overtime salary but
> he should stop praying for snow. :-)
>
Those fellows with the blade on the front of their 4x4s love this weather.
Right after I moved out of our family home over 25 years ago, Dad hired a
fellow with a truck & blade to appear every time it snowed enough to shovel.
Before I moved out... he had me to look after the snow! :-)
John
> "tom" wrote:
>
> > I've shovelled out three times since late yesterday afternoon- about
> > eight inches each time. I've been in long enough to grab a sandwich and
> > coffee (NOT going back out ..) and there's at least another three down
> > since I came in- and I'm only just on the edge of the yellow blotch ...
>
> house I'd be tempted to leave it until tomorrow - this wet stuff that's
> coming down right now combined with the wind would make for mighty ugly
> work.
I just got in after what was hopefully the last pass of the plow. The
unholy combination of wet snow and rain meant what was delivered to
the driveway was blocks roughly a cubic meter in size, each weighing
as much as a small car. Had to go at it methodically, disassembling it
in small blocks. I sure hope he doesn't come past again!
Rick Walker
"Donna Whitman" wrote:
>
> One poor schmuck in this lot came home to find the plow had left a
> lovely wall of snow about a foot high so he had to stop and shovel it
> away to get into his parking spot. He's home for a few hours and wants
> to go out again. Guess what? The plow had been by and buried the ass
> end of his car so he had to shovel again to get out. Now I don't feel
> so bad. I'm not the only one. :-)
>
Yes, I've seen that happen a few times living here. About a month ago a
notice went around the building stating we have a new plow driver, and
*nobody* is supposed to leave their cars in their spots when he's here
clearing the lot.
It seems that approximately a dozen people didn't get the notice... either
that or they really like shoveling, 'cause they've all got a mountain of
slushy snow behind them now.
Rick Walker
"Donna Whitman" wrote:
>
> That would be the stuff. I first saw it in use where I used to work.
> They used it on the walkway between the two buildings on campus so the
> students could safely travel back and forth.
>
If it melts ice quickly I'm going to look for it tomorrow when we go out.
Although she hasn't been stuck since we got this vehicle, now that I've said
it... well, you know the rest. ;-)
Rick Walker
"John" wrote:
I just got in after what was hopefully the last pass of the plow. The
unholy combination of wet snow and rain meant what was delivered to
the driveway was blocks roughly a cubic meter in size, each weighing
as much as a small car. Had to go at it methodically, disassembling it
in small blocks. I sure hope he doesn't come past again!
---------------
He will, John. :) This time you could back your vehicle out when you hear
him coming, and rock it back and forth in front of your driveway... he'll
think you're stuck, and maybe deposit the load in the next driveway. Or
maybe not...
Rick Walker
"Donna Whitman" wrote:
>
> Our guy is vastly improved over last winter. I think they sent him to
> plow drivers' school <g> If someone can't or won't move their vehicle,
> he's pretty good at getting as close as he safely can so that there's
> not a whole lot left around them.
>
That's what we were always afraid of, getting clipped by the plow. It only
makes sense - you expect a clean spot, so move the vehicle. He cleans the
visitors' area first, allowing room for the tenants to park until he's done.
They could also park along the street until he's done, but oh well...
they'll be the first ones to complain about the mess, too.
Ice Age
>
> And I'll be you're correct. I don't use salt because it is bad for the
> environment and it could eventually end up in my plumbing. I do have
> plenty of sand though, if need be.
Good to have a plan when wifey gives one the boot and/or the
layoffs come. Had salt here for months, although have not needed to
make use of it yet. If one gets the boot, salt in wifey's plumbing is
sort of a moot point, isn't it, "Rob?"
Ice!
tom
> One poor schmuck in this lot came home to find the plow had left a
> lovely wall of snow about a foot high so he had to stop and shovel it
when the county plow goes down my road, it's usually about two+ feet deep
and at least six feet wide across my driveway ... and by the time the
plow comes by, it's usually quite slushy- packed and piled it is the most
ignorant crap ever to shovel. It can't be shoved around- each <small +
heavy> shovel-load needs to be squared out then lifted and carried. It
ain't fun, and takes a long long long time. So no outpouring of hurt
feeling for your pet schmuck ...
tom
> But you have great connectivity under that drift!
and it's _never_ too early here either :-)
Rick Walker
Just came back from having a smoke in the den, tom... how'd you know? "-)
Let's go back a little further and dredge up some lyrics from a tune
originally recorded by Dr. Hook, circa Early 70s. I remember reading these
words in a Playboy article about Shel Silverstein, the fellow that wrote
this gem:
http://www.sylviasmother.com/lyrics/bankrupt/stonedandmissedit.htm
Rob
I disagree Mr Age. If it isn't worth while before how would it all of a
sudden be worth while after? Revenge? Spite? You're childish. I have too
much respect for my wife and if anything were to ever happen I promise
myself to maintain that respect.
You on the other hand would have to find a new beer fetcher. Woof!
"Too bad, Of Well."
Rob
>
> "Rob" wrote:
>>
>> And I'll be you're correct. I don't use salt because it is bad for the
>> environment and it could eventually end up in my plumbing. I do have
>> plenty of sand though, if need be.
>>
>
> place uses both sand and salt... as long as we can get out from the
> underground parking, it's in the building's hands how they choose to
> deal with it.
>
> One of the few good things renting offers.
There are pros and cons on either side of the fence and sometimes the
grass even looks greener on the other side too. I enjoy shoveling, snow
blowing, or snow removal though, gets me outside where I'm happiest. The
exercise is cool too, although hard on the groin.
demibee
> Awwww ...where's the compassion <g>. Seriously though, it's at times
> like this that I feel very fortunate to be an apartment dweller.
> Compared to home owners. my woes are relatively minor. That's not to
> say that I can't bitch though. :-)
Yep... no grass to mow either! :)
db
Rick Walker
"Rob" wrote:
>
> There are pros and cons on either side of the fence and sometimes the
> grass even looks greener on the other side too. I enjoy shoveling, snow
> blowing, or snow removal though, gets me outside where I'm happiest. The
> exercise is cool too, although hard on the groin.
>
Yes, take it easy on yourself there, Rob. I hated shovelling snow; but, I
sort of liked mowing the lawn when I lived at home though. The smell of a
freshly-cut lawn... memories. :)
Rick Walker
"Donna Whitman" wrote:
>
> I did get clipped by the plow 3 years ago when he was simply clearing
> the driving area overnight. Looks like he got a bit too close and
> bounced with his blade up enough to clip the top of the bumper. There
> were no witnesses and I had no proof ....until about a year later when
> someone said something to indicate she knew it was him.
>
We were dinged back at Cumberland Drive during White Juan. Of course, we
had the old Olds then so it wasn't really noticeable... sort of matched the
other side, IIRC. ;-)
Al Smith
Clearly you are a man who does not suffer from allergies.
-Al-
Rick Walker
"Al Smith" wrote:
>
> Clearly you are a man who does not suffer from allergies.
>
Cats & penicillin are my only 2 allergies, Al. Dad suffered from hay fever
though... sometimes on Summer vacation he'd sneeze a good 20 times or more
in a row. I remember my Mom getting worried about it, and all Dad would do
(between sneezes) was laugh about it.
Rick Walker
"Donna Whitman" wrote:
>
> Clip (or ding) is probably the wrong word for what happened to me. He
> left a hole toe size of a fist in the bumper and the fiberglass was
> cracked. Duct tape patched it up quite nicely. :-)
>
That's a little more than a ding. Good ol' duct tape! :-)
Rick Walker
"Donna Whitman" wrote:
>
> Clip (or ding) is probably the wrong word for what happened to me. He
> left a hole toe size of a fist in the bumper and the fiberglass was
> cracked. Duct tape patched it up quite nicely. :-)
>
Oh, while I think about it... we spotted that blue ice melting stuff at
Staples, but the price was a little high according to my wife the
price-checker -- we'll see what it goes for at CT or Wally's next time we're
near the DC.
Rick Walker
"Donna Whitman" wrote:
>
> It's more expensive than salt but you don't need as much. It also
> works at lower temperatures and is environmentally friendly. CT has it
> in large bags that you can divide into smaller containers. That's
> usually what I do. Since I'm only melting beside my car for ease of
> getting in and out, I don't use a whole lot.
>
That's why we want it too... just in case. I like the idea of a filling a
small container is a great idea; if you only need a little to get you out,
then fill it up again next time you're home.
I appreciate this heads up, Donna. We can remove the bag of salt from the
trunk, free up some space, and have a sure-fire way to get out of a slippery
situation. ;)
Rob
> Yes, take it easy on yourself there, Rob. I hated shovelling snow; but,
> I sort of liked mowing the lawn when I lived at home though. The smell
> of a freshly-cut lawn... memories. :)
Went out and moved some more snow around again today, can really feel it
now :-( All my work is done, so I think a trip to the garage is in oder
and then sit down and enjoy my Christmas gift (with World Juniors in the
background) for the rest of the evening...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2750/4218941776_7086b5ec38_o.jpg
Rick Walker
"Rob" wrote:
>
> Went out and moved some more snow around again today, can really feel it
> now :-( All my work is done, so I think a trip to the garage is in oder
> and then sit down and enjoy my Christmas gift (with World Juniors in the
> background) for the rest of the evening...
>
> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2750/4218941776_7086b5ec38_o.jpg
>
Saw that book at Coles when Richard and I were finishing off our X-mas
shopping. I saw quite a few books I'd like to read, but it irks me to pay
hardcover prices - even paperbacks are costly nowadays.
I was considering purchasing an Amazon Kindle for myself, but when I'm
reading I cover so many pages that at $10 per downloaded book I'd have a
$120 per month habit to feed.
Speaking of feeding habits, think I'll pop into the den for a second... or a
third. :-)
Al Smith
There are quite a few books for free download -- millions of them.
I own a book reader and I have never bought an e-book. I never
will buy an e-book.
-Al-
Rick Walker
"Al Smith" wrote:
>
> There are quite a few books for free download -- millions of them. I own a
> book reader and I have never bought an e-book. I never will buy an e-book.
>
The Kindle stores up to 1200 books or something... the reason I haven't
bought one or asked for one at Christmas is because I still like the
tangible product in my hands. I certainly don't read as many books as I
used to, but if I did that thing would get pretty expensive to feed. And
for some reason I'd feel removed from the story a little... maybe that's
just me.
Besides, when I devote a couple of days to a book I'd like to have it around
for a while; sometimes as a reference, other times if someone asks to borrow
it.
I'll bet I've given away half the books I once owned - hungry friends need
feeding too.
Al Smith
I've still got most of my books. Those that I sold, thinking I
would not miss them, I miss. They take up a lot of space but I'm
fond of them.
Tonight, I read John Buchan's story "The Watcher by the Gate."
It's a great adventure yarn, scary as hell. I also just finished
Walter de la Mare's story "Out of the Deep" -- a ghost story. Both
free, both read on a screen. The Buchan story I read on my
hand-held reader, and the De la Mare story I read on my computer
monitor. I really don't mind reading on a screen.
-Al-
Rick Walker
"Donna Whitman" wrote:
>
> By the time you pay the exchange, shipping, etc. The kindle comes to
> over $500 and, as far as I know, the format is proprietary so you are
> restricted to what they have. Not sure if you can load freebie in
> other formats onto it.
>
> The Sony Reader used to be like that but will now accept other formats
> so I can now take advantage of sales and freebies from other eBook
> publishers and load them onto my Sony device. It's cheaper too.
>
If I read as much as I used to I might look into one, but I'm not sure it
would be the same experience. I read a couple of books a month now as
opposed to a couple to three a week. The Amazon Kindle looks a little cold,
not the same feeling as holding a book. Plus as you say you'd probably be
limited to Amazon's format... but Amazon is pretty big, so there's no
shortage of reading material.
>
> You can keep e-books around for as long as you like too and some
> readers have a search capability so you can even look up specific
> topics quicker than you can in a paper book.
>
In my den I'm surrounded with books, so referencing would be a lot faster -
but I Google for darn near everything lately anyway. However for just
relaxing and reading, I'm content with books in their "usual" format for
now.
Rick Walker
"Al Smith" wrote:
>
> I've still got most of my books. Those that I sold, thinking I would not
> miss them, I miss. They take up a lot of space but I'm fond of them.
>
I know the feeling - books mean a lot to me too. It's more than just words
on a page making a story... it's a book. I have one my Aunt loaned me that
was printed in 1893... pages almost crumbling, signed by a few long-deceased
Dartmouthians, it's a fantasic historical account of old Dartmouth, Preston
and Lawrencetown. It has the "scent" of an old tome too... you can't buy
that, my friend. :)
> Tonight, I read John Buchan's story "The Watcher by the Gate." It's a
> great adventure yarn, scary as hell. I also just finished Walter de la
> Mare's story "Out of the Deep" -- a ghost story. Both free, both read on a
> screen. The Buchan story I read on my hand-held reader, and the De la Mare
> story I read on my computer monitor. I really don't mind reading on a
> screen.
>
I'm doing it right now! But there's a certain allure that a book has that
no screen will ever compare to; call me sentimental, but I still prefer the
real thing.
Rob
> Saw that book at Coles when Richard and I were finishing off our X-mas
> shopping. I saw quite a few books I'd like to read, but it irks me to
> pay hardcover prices - even paperbacks are costly nowadays.
This book was $35.00 everywhere but Walmart, where it was on sale for
$25.00. Imagine, and I don't think they used thinner paper or chopped
one third the words out ;-)
>
> I was considering purchasing an Amazon Kindle for myself, but when I'm
> reading I cover so many pages that at $10 per downloaded book I'd have a
> $120 per month habit to feed.
I'm a bit of a traditionalist and prefer a book. I like they way paper
sounds, feels, and smells. I will though allow others to hold their own
opinion on which they prefer. Nice of me, yes?
>
> Speaking of feeding habits, think I'll pop into the den for a second...
> or a third. :-)
Me too.
Rick Walker
"Rob" wrote:
>
> This book was $35.00 everywhere but Walmart, where it was on sale for
> $25.00. Imagine, and I don't think they used thinner paper or chopped one
> third the words out ;-)
>
People crap on Walmart for so many things, Rob. As someone once said, "If
Walmart is such a miserable place to shop, how come so many people go
there?" We picked up a box of Schneider's chicken wings a week ago,
regularly priced around $12 bucks on sale for $7 dollars. We noticed the
chicken breasts next to them on sale too, so we grabbed a box of those.
We took those to the checkouts, where the wings scanned for 7 dollars but
the breasts came up as $12 - at which point my wife says "Go back and
check... they're on sale too." When she came back she agreed, and because
Walmart screwed up a sale price we received the box of breasts for nothing.
As long as you mention the fact that they had an incorrect price come up,
it's their policy to give you that item for nothing.
Quote from my wife: "It pays to watch the register!"
>
> I'm a bit of a traditionalist and prefer a book. I like they way paper
> sounds, feels, and smells. I will though allow others to hold their own
> opinion on which they prefer. Nice of me, yes?
>
Oh yeah, lol. I like the real thing too, but I can see a change a-comin'
our way.
It's... den time! :-)
demibee
> There are quite a few books for free download -- millions of them. I own
> a book reader and I have never bought an e-book. I never will buy an
> e-book.
A writer who won't pay for an eBook... funny ;)
Then again, what can *I* say?... I'm the former programmer who won't pay
for software :)
db
demibee
> Cats & penicillin are my only 2 allergies, Al. . .
Cats are my big one! It takes only 20-30 minutes in a "cat house" for my
throat to close up and the sneezing and runny nose to start.
Once, while visiting my ex & daughter in NB, even with anti-histamines, I
had to get up periodically throughout the night to go to an open window
and just breathe in fresh air.
Yet, one friend of mine has *four* of 'em... fluffy grey & white ones; and
whenever I'm in his place, no problems! I don't know what he does
differently.
db
Rick Walker
"demibee" wrote:
>
> Cats are my big one! It takes only 20-30 minutes in a "cat house" for my
> throat to close up and the sneezing and runny nose to start.
>
It hits my lungs first (probably because I'm a smoker) after my first hour
in the presence of a cat; even if I leave the "cat's premises" after 20-30
minutes, the same symptoms will occur. Sometimes I've stayed for hours in
the vicinity of cat dander - I'm going to pay for it after 20 minutes anyway
I figure, and occasionally the symptoms are slightly easier to handle for
some reason. But they're always there... itchy lungs and / or itchy eyes.
> Once, while visiting my ex & daughter in NB, even with anti-histamines, I
> had to get up periodically throughout the night to go to an open window
> and just breathe in fresh air.
>
Anti-histamines don't make too much of a dent here either; if I think about
it before going near a cat, I'll take a couple. Again, lessened (but
present) symptoms - and I know what you mean about a cool breath of fresh
air! Cold water to your face helps too.
> Yet, one friend of mine has *four* of 'em... fluffy grey & white ones; and
> whenever I'm in his place, no problems! I don't know what he does
> differently.
>
Short-haired, long-haired... all types seem to affect me, db. Even the next
morning I have a cat "hangover". No kidding!
Rick Walker
"Donna Whitman" wrote:
>
> You didn't seem to be in any distress when you were here for at least
> 2 hours and Abigail and Logan were both in the room.
>
You weren't in the van as I drove home with Richard... I had taken an
anti-histamine before we went, but I still found it difficult to breath. I
didn't touch my eyes while I was at your place, but ask Richard how much I
suffered on the way home *and* the next day. Nonetheless, we had a good
time that night. :-)
James Warren
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 01:05:02 -0400, "Rick Walker" <R...@WR.com> wrote:
>
>> "demibee" wrote:
>>> Cats are my big one! It takes only 20-30 minutes in a "cat house" for my
>>> throat to close up and the sneezing and runny nose to start.
>>>
>> It hits my lungs first (probably because I'm a smoker) after my first hour
>> in the presence of a cat; even if I leave the "cat's premises" after 20-30
>> minutes, the same symptoms will occur. Sometimes I've stayed for hours in
>> the vicinity of cat dander - I'm going to pay for it after 20 minutes anyway
>> I figure, and occasionally the symptoms are slightly easier to handle for
>> some reason. But they're always there... itchy lungs and / or itchy eyes.
>
>
> 2 hours and Abigail and Logan were both in the room.
>
These cat breeds are supposedly hypo-allergenic: Devon Rex, Cornish Rex, Sphynx and Siberian.
--
jw
"Science is a candle in the dark" - Carl Sagan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wV_REEdvxo
http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=e5xdcxablf
Rick Walker
"James Warren" wrote:
>
> These cat breeds are supposedly hypo-allergenic: Devon Rex, Cornish Rex,
> Sphynx and Siberian.
>
I haven't met one of them yet, I guess.
James Warren
> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 13:31:03 -0400, James Warren
> <jwwar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Donna Whitman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 01:05:02 -0400, "Rick Walker" <R...@WR.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "demibee" wrote:
>>>>> Cats are my big one! It takes only 20-30 minutes in a "cat house" for my
>>>>> throat to close up and the sneezing and runny nose to start.
>>>>>
>>>> It hits my lungs first (probably because I'm a smoker) after my first hour
>>>> in the presence of a cat; even if I leave the "cat's premises" after 20-30
>>>> minutes, the same symptoms will occur. Sometimes I've stayed for hours in
>>>> the vicinity of cat dander - I'm going to pay for it after 20 minutes anyway
>>>> I figure, and occasionally the symptoms are slightly easier to handle for
>>>> some reason. But they're always there... itchy lungs and / or itchy eyes.
>>>
>>> You didn't seem to be in any distress when you were here for at least
>>> 2 hours and Abigail and Logan were both in the room.
>>>
>> These cat breeds are supposedly hypo-allergenic: Devon Rex, Cornish Rex, Sphynx and Siberian.
>
>
> anyone is sensitive the Ragdoll would set them off in spades.
>
> The cat in this image is a spitting image of my Logan
> http://www.swapmeetdave.com/Humor/Cats/Ragdoll.htm
I like cats. That one is *very* pretty. I like dogs too. We had cats once
but now we have dogs. I actually like all animals. If I had more money
and barns and time I would have an array of animals. We feed squirrels and
crows. I'd love to have a goat or a Llama but truthfully I don't know how
to look after them properly. It would be nice to be independently wealthy
and be surrounded by numerous pet animals. Sheesh. Now I'm sounding romantic. :)
James Warren
> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:16:49 -0400, James Warren
> ...reminds me of one of those paintings of the kids with the huge
> eyes. I love dogs too and would probably have one if I didn't live in
> an apartment. Used to own a Miniature Schnauzer when Kevin was young
> and Heidi was a delight.
>
> You can't possible be a romantic. That's a spiritual connection
> between beings and spirituality is bunk. :-)
Its not spiritual at all. Its just a natural attraction of one mammal
for another mammal. We mammals identify with one another. :) Its much
harder to identify with reptiles because we share so little with them.
James Warren
> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:05:32 -0400, James Warren
> <jwwar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> You can't possible be a romantic. That's a spiritual connection
>>> between beings and spirituality is bunk. :-)
>> Its not spiritual at all. Its just a natural attraction of one mammal
>> for another mammal. We mammals identify with one another. :) Its much
>> harder to identify with reptiles because we share so little with them.
>
>
> nature. What sets the human animal apart from other species is out
> ability to form spiritual and/or emotional bonds.
>
> An animal may form a lifetime bond and do whatever is necessary to
> preserve that bond but only humans can transcend that and form bonds
> that have nothing to do with nature and the need to survive and
> reproduce.
>
I don't think I'm sexually attracted to my dogs. :( I do have an emotional
attachment to them however. I have no idea what a spiritual attachment or bond
would be like. I think you are equating emotional with spiritual. These are not
two different things but the same thing.
All things and relationships are natural. You cannot transcend nature. What would
that even be?
Rick Walker
"Donna Whitman" wrote:
>
> Hard to believe that you displayed no symptoms whatsoever when you
> were here all that time. Had someone apply for a job as a respite
> worker for Kevin. When she came for the interview, she didn't even
> have her coat off when she started to sneeze and her eyes were
> watering. Within 10 minutes, she had to leave and the cats were
> nowhere to be found.
>
I spoke to Richard a half an hour after we were there... told him I'd stay
as long as I could, because my chest was getting tight. And, as I said
*sometimes* Benedryl keeps symptoms calmed down for a while, but I always
wind up suffering later.
The next day I was still congested, even after a shower. I always have to
wash everything I wear after I'm around cats - too bad, I like animals and
your cats are cool.
But I never sneeze... it manifests itself in my lungs and things get tight.
Oh, and never once at your place did I touch my eyes... if I had, they'd
swell up like balloons. I've dealt with cat allergies since I was a young
kid Donna, and you learn what to do (or what not to do) in the presence of
feline company. ;-)
James Warren
> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:25:10 -0400, James Warren
> <jwwar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Donna Whitman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:05:32 -0400, James Warren
>>> <jwwar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> You can't possible be a romantic. That's a spiritual connection
>>>>> between beings and spirituality is bunk. :-)
>>>> Its not spiritual at all. Its just a natural attraction of one mammal
>>>> for another mammal. We mammals identify with one another. :) Its much
>>>> harder to identify with reptiles because we share so little with them.
>>>
>>> What you're describing is sexual attraction and that IS part of
>>> nature. What sets the human animal apart from other species is out
>>> ability to form spiritual and/or emotional bonds.
>>>
>>> An animal may form a lifetime bond and do whatever is necessary to
>>> preserve that bond but only humans can transcend that and form bonds
>>> that have nothing to do with nature and the need to survive and
>>> reproduce.
>>>
>> I don't think I'm sexually attracted to my dogs. :( I do have an emotional
>> attachment to them however. I have no idea what a spiritual attachment or bond
>> would be like. I think you are equating emotional with spiritual. These are not
>> two different things but the same thing.
>>
>> All things and relationships are natural. You cannot transcend nature. What would
>> that even be?
>
>
> debate. You're more concerned with forwarding your ideas as "gospel"
> truth than you are in listening to what anyone else has to say. You're
> like the child who plugs their ears and shouts so they can't hear what
> someone else is saying. Or, in adult terms "My mind is made up. Don't
> confuse me with facts".
Give up if you wish but I see no facts above. I asked how you could transcend
nature.
>
> I have found, over the years, that I may not always agree with people
> who post here but any are interesting and intelligent and provide me
> with much food for thought. It's probably here that I've come to the
> realization that truth isn't necessarily absolute.
Truth is absolute. Its knowing when and if we have it thats the hard part. :)
>
> If you want to repeat over and over and over again that there is no
> such thing as spirituality, fill your boots. I believe otherwise. As
> for as you and I go, this will be the end of the discussion since you
> want to "teach" and not discuss.
>
>
Believe as you wish. I'll wait for evidence or even a useful non circular definition.
James Warren
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 15:58:47 -0400, "Rick Walker" <R...@WR.com> wrote:
>
>> "Donna Whitman" wrote:
>>> Hard to believe that you displayed no symptoms whatsoever when you
>>> were here all that time. Had someone apply for a job as a respite
>>> worker for Kevin. When she came for the interview, she didn't even
>>> have her coat off when she started to sneeze and her eyes were
>>> watering. Within 10 minutes, she had to leave and the cats were
>>> nowhere to be found.
>>>
>> I spoke to Richard a half an hour after we were there... told him I'd stay
>> as long as I could, because my chest was getting tight. And, as I said
>> *sometimes* Benedryl keeps symptoms calmed down for a while, but I always
>> wind up suffering later.
>
>
> that heart checked out if I were you.
Its a sign of asthma. Cats trigger asthma for him.
Rick Walker
"James Warren" wrote:
> Donna Whitman wrote:
>>
>> Chest tightness isn't normally a symptom of cat allergies. I'd have
>> that heart checked out if I were you.
>
> Its a sign of asthma. Cats trigger asthma for him.
>
Happen to have a puffer right here! :-)
Rick Walker
"Donna Whitman" wrote:
>
> Chest tightness isn't normally a symptom of cat allergies. I'd have
> that heart checked out if I were you.
>
I have prescription inhalers (puffers) for when it gets really bad, but my
entire respiratory system takes a whack when I'm around cats... right from
the start, my breathing gets shorter. Shallow breaths, followed by an
"itchiness" in my lungs.
That's the first sign... then the eyes get itchy, so I can't touch a cat (or
anything the cat has touched) and touch my eyes at all, or else.
It's not a pleasant allergy at all - guess you'd have to have a cat allergy
to understand it's no party. I can stand it for a while, but I pay for it
later. :-)
sy...@removethiseastlink.ca
>Chest tightness isn't normally a symptom of cat allergies. I'd have that
>heart checked out if I were you.
Donna,
What makes you say that chest tightness is not normally a symptom of a cat
allergy?
I believe that asthma related symptoms such as chest tightness might
easily be brought on due to an allergic response to a cat (eg: allergy to
cat saliva and dander).
Dave.
James Warren
Never be without your puffer Rick. Do you have any other triggers.
Rick Walker
It's a tightness best explained by an itchy feeling and shortness of
breath - you can't take a deep breath if you wanted to, and a puffer does
help expand things a little.