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James Warren
Jan 17, 2024, 4:43:08 PMJan 17
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“Every generation imagines itself to be more intelligent than the one
that went before it, and wiser than the one that comes after it.”
— George Orwell
that went before it, and wiser than the one that comes after it.”
— George Orwell
lucr...@florence.it
Jan 17, 2024, 6:17:32 PMJan 17
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HRM Resident
Jan 17, 2024, 7:53:06 PMJan 17
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to save a few thousand lives. It’s pathetic! It’s pathetic!
What’s happening is- what’s happening, you know what
it is? These baby-boomers, these soft, fruity baby-
boomers are raising an entire generation of soft, fruity
kids who aren’t even allowed to have hazardous toys
for Christ’s sakes! Hazardous toys, shit, whatever
happened to natural selection? Survival of the fittest?
The kid who swallows too many marbles doesn’t grow
up to have kids of his own! Simple as that! Simple!
Nature! Nature knows best. We’re saving entirely too
many lives in this country of all ages. Nature should
be allowed to do its job of killing off the weak and sickly
and ignorant people without interference from airbags
and batting helmets! - George Carlin
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James Warren
Jan 18, 2024, 8:00:44 AMJan 18
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HRM Resident
Jan 18, 2024, 8:59:43 AMJan 18
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Guilty of that! I honestly believe the vast majority of boomers
wanted their kids to have it better than they had it (although we had it
pretty good.) When I graduated high school, most of the Grade 12 kids
didn't go to university. I am guessing here, but probably around 20%
did.
When my kids graduated, it was the opposite. Roughly 80% went.
Booomers paid their way . . . many of the ones I knew had a single
income family, but 'mom' took on another job to pay some or all of the
tuition.
The result? A shotage of tradespeople and those who we need to do
manual labour. There are way to many "Marine Biologists" and not enough
"Roofers." The "Marine Biologists" were taught that if they got their
degree, they'd be able to afford a house and two cars by age 30. It
didn't work that way. We messed up. We should have let high school
weed out the blue color category from the white collar category, but we
didn't because we put rules in place making sure the cross-eyed dim-wits
got the same marks as the smart kids. That's what happens when you mess
with nature!
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HRM Resident
wanted their kids to have it better than they had it (although we had it
pretty good.) When I graduated high school, most of the Grade 12 kids
didn't go to university. I am guessing here, but probably around 20%
did.
When my kids graduated, it was the opposite. Roughly 80% went.
Booomers paid their way . . . many of the ones I knew had a single
income family, but 'mom' took on another job to pay some or all of the
tuition.
The result? A shotage of tradespeople and those who we need to do
manual labour. There are way to many "Marine Biologists" and not enough
"Roofers." The "Marine Biologists" were taught that if they got their
degree, they'd be able to afford a house and two cars by age 30. It
didn't work that way. We messed up. We should have let high school
weed out the blue color category from the white collar category, but we
didn't because we put rules in place making sure the cross-eyed dim-wits
got the same marks as the smart kids. That's what happens when you mess
with nature!
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HRM Resident
James Warren
Jan 18, 2024, 10:41:59 AMJan 18
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of high school. I think I was the only one from my class to go to
university. One or two others may have followed later. The big push to
get kids into university began in earnest in the 70s and 80s. Even in
the 60s there were many kids there who did not belong and who either
dropped out or flunked out. Later, there was reluctance to flunk kids
and as a consequence standards dropped. A degree became less and less
valuable so that today it is just an entrance requirement much like
grade 12 was previously.
And as a result there were fewer and fewer kids entering the trades.
This was a bad mistake. We need trades people possibly more than college
grads. The trades need to be elevated to the level they once were. The
skill requirements of carpenters, plumbers, mechanics, etc are much
higher than is appreciated. If I had not had the opportunity to go to
university I might have tried carpentry because it uses math and
geometry which I was good at.
HRM Resident
Jan 18, 2024, 11:24:59 AMJan 18
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James Warren <jwwar...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> And as a result there were fewer and fewer kids entering the
> trades. This was a bad mistake. We need trades people possibly more
> than college grads. The trades need to be elevated to the level they
> once were. The skill requirements of carpenters, plumbers, mechanics,
> etc are much higher than is appreciated. If I had not had the
> opportunity to go to university I might have tried carpentry because
> it uses math and geometry which I was good at.
>
Well worded . . . this was what I was trying to say earier and I'm
>
> And as a result there were fewer and fewer kids entering the
> trades. This was a bad mistake. We need trades people possibly more
> than college grads. The trades need to be elevated to the level they
> once were. The skill requirements of carpenters, plumbers, mechanics,
> etc are much higher than is appreciated. If I had not had the
> opportunity to go to university I might have tried carpentry because
> it uses math and geometry which I was good at.
>
not sure I got the point across. Calling all blue collar workers
'cross-eyed dimwits' was probably not the right term. :-) I guess I
meant everyone who were not traditional university caliber. Oh well. I
believe the 'cross-eyed dimwits' end up in mental institutions or as
Military Police in the CF. Thankfully society has the empathy to look
after those born with little intelligence of any kind.
You are damed right tradespeople are intellegent. Probably most of
them more than the majority of the current crop of university
graduates. I've watched them solve problems that seemed impossible.
They may have a different kind of intelligence than a math guru, nut
it's there. I'd like to se a "Marine Biologist" change a piston in an
engine or install a septic field bed.
My next door neighbour (~35) has a Master's Degree in teaching. He
works as a 'concrete layer' in the construction of all the high rise
buildings in Halifax. His plan is to keep doing this until he's around
45 (and acquired all the trades paperwork for whatever he does) and then
take up teaching trades at a community college. He says he presently
makes twice as much in construction as he would at teaching school.
When we were young, carpenters, plumbers, mechanics, etc., were well
respected. It appears society now considers them 'stupid' and respects
university graduates as the 'intelligent' ones. This incorrect
inversion will self-correct in the future.
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lucr...@florence.it
Jan 18, 2024, 4:42:26 PMJan 18
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On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 12:24:55 -0400, HRM Resident <hrm...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Sadly my eldest grandson was molested by a teacher at Thomas
LeMarchant School and the day he turned 16 he left school, couldn't
blame him. We urged him 'to get a trade' - he did - does brilliantly
and is good at working with customers. By age 30 he was buying his
first house, that's long paid for, they have a nice vehicle each and
he has his garage done up as a man cave with a lovely woodstove,
fridge, icemaker, range a real party place. He just finished buying a
four wheel vehicle for the woods which doubles as a snow plough in
winter. I doubt he would be doing all the things he is if he had a
huge student loan to pay off!
wrote:
LeMarchant School and the day he turned 16 he left school, couldn't
blame him. We urged him 'to get a trade' - he did - does brilliantly
and is good at working with customers. By age 30 he was buying his
first house, that's long paid for, they have a nice vehicle each and
he has his garage done up as a man cave with a lovely woodstove,
fridge, icemaker, range a real party place. He just finished buying a
four wheel vehicle for the woods which doubles as a snow plough in
winter. I doubt he would be doing all the things he is if he had a
huge student loan to pay off!
axemen99
Jan 18, 2024, 7:35:37 PMJan 18
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In Massachusetts, things have changed for better, I believe.
We have technical or trade classes for Grades 9-12 in high schools.
After that there are 3-5 years of apprenticeship of carpenters,
plumbers, mechanics in Boston area. Once certified, they are
professional trades(wo)man, they can earn more than a Master degree person.
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