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HRM Resident

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Oct 19, 2021, 10:22:13 AM10/19/21
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How will our solar system end? A distant planet offers hints

A gas giant orbiting a burned-out star foretells what will happen here in
about 5 billion years, researchers say.

Oct. 18, 2021, 3:51 PM ADT / Updated Oct. 18, 2021, 4:48 PM ADT
By Tom Metcalfe
A darkened planet circling the feeble remnant of a burned-out star about
6,000 light-years from Earth shows what our own solar system will look like
at the end of its existence, astronomers say.

The distant survivor, described in a study published last week in the
journal Nature, seems to be a gas giant similar to Jupiter. It provides a
snapshot of a planetary system around a dying star, the study’s authors
said.

“When the sun balloons outwards in what’s known as its red giant phase, it
will likely obliterate Mercury and Venus and possibly Earth,” said the lead
author of the study, Joshua Blackman, an astronomer at the University of
Tasmania in Australia.

The sun will have grown too hot for anything on Earth to survive well
before then, and its red giant phase will cause lakes of lava, broken
continents and devastating blasts of intense ionizing radiation — if it
doesn’t fragment our planet entirely, he said in an email.

But it’s not all bad news: Mars and the outer gas giants — Jupiter, Saturn,
Uranus and Neptune — are expected to survive the sun’s burning-out. And now
the detection of the distant planet orbiting a white dwarf strengthens that
idea.

“Our discovery is evidence that the standard picture of how planetary
systems evolve as their host star dies is likely to be correct,” Blackman
said.

The newly found white dwarf was detected toward the center of our galaxy by
a gravitational effect called “microlensing” as it passed in front of a
star even farther away.

The gravity of the white dwarf caused the distant star to appear to grow
brighter for a few years — a brief flash in astronomical time — as its mass
focused light through gravitational lensing, said Jean-Philippe Beaulieu of
the Institut d’Astrophysique de Paris, who led the research and is a
co-author of the study. A second flash of light revealed the orbiting
planet.

In fact, it’s only because of microlensing that the white dwarf system has
been detected at all. Although the team tried to observe it with the giant
telescopes at the Keck Observatory in Hawaii, it proved too dim to see.

They hope soon to get better results with the James Webb Space Telescope,
which is due to launch in December and will be able to observe the darkened
system directly, Beaulieu said.

Blackman said the gas giant, about 1.4 times the mass of Jupiter, is
orbiting 260 million miles to 600 million miles from the white dwarf.

Although it’s likely to have formed farther from the star than its current
orbit, the shrinking of the host star after its red giant phase hadn’t
drawn it so close that it fragmented, which has been theorized in some
models.

“We think the planet survived the red giant phase of its star’s evolution
likely untouched,” he said.

Lisa Kaltenegger, an associate astronomy professor and the director of the
Carl Sagan Institute at Cornell University, said the new discovery is
further proof that planets can survive the demise of their stars.

Kaltenegger, who wasn’t involved in the latest research, was part of a team
that reported the detection of a different giant planet orbiting a white
dwarf star late last year — the first one ever seen.

That study, however, showed that the planet completes an entire orbit every
1.4 days — so it’s much closer to the white dwarf than Mercury is to the
sun.

Kaltenegger said it was likely to have formed much farther away and
spiraled inward as the star shrank until it stopped a few million miles
away.

Taken together, the discoveries show that outer planets — and perhaps their
moons — can survive the demise of their stars, although their final orbits
seem to depend on their circumstances, she said.

Although white dwarf remnants don’t produce a lot of light, they do produce
enough heat to warm their innermost planets, which implies that life could
still exist in such a planetary system when its star “dies” in this way —
perhaps beneath the icy crusts of the moons of gas giants, like Jupiter’s
Europa and Saturn’s Enceladus, she said.

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James Warren

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Oct 19, 2021, 11:49:37 AM10/19/21
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Not with a bang, but with a whimper.

This will not affect you though, so why the interest? :)

HRM Resident

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Oct 19, 2021, 12:02:17 PM10/19/21
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That’s pretty much the consensus amongst the fortune tellers. In an
unimaginable amount of time into the future, everything might run down and
sit at an equilibrium forever. Or something else might happen.

It might affect me. Given the laws of the universe as we now
understand them, it certainly won’t. But since the fortune tellers can’t
predict what the weather will be next Tuesday, I don’t really think they
have picked the correct future from the infinite number to grasp onto.

Which future do you think is the most likely?

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James Warren

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Oct 19, 2021, 1:08:15 PM10/19/21
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The one outlined in the article although the timeline has been
estimated variously from 2 billion to 5 billion.

In the very long term I suspect a heat death scenario will obtain.

Lucretia Borgia

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Oct 19, 2021, 2:45:10 PM10/19/21
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 14:08:09 -0300, James Warren
Would seem likely/logical but happily (?) none of us will witness it
lol

HRM Resident

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Oct 19, 2021, 4:54:42 PM10/19/21
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Lucretia Borgia <lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 14:08:09 -0300, James Warren
> <jwwar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2021-10-19 1:02 PM, HRM Resident wrote:



>snip<

>>>
>>> Which future do you think is the most likely?
>>>
>>
>> The one outlined in the article although the timeline has been
>> estimated variously from 2 billion to 5 billion.
>>
>> In the very long term I suspect a heat death scenario will obtain.
>
> Would seem likely/logical but happily (?) none of us will witness it
> lol
>

It’s likely we won’t (as a species.) We have enough weapons
stockpiled that eventually some nut, either on purpose or by mistake, will
decide to test if MAD is real.

Assuming we don’t self destruct, we might be adaptable to the changes
predicted if they occur over eons. We have a brain. It’s still an open
question as to whether or not we can ever use it collectively with the
others. I am not that optimistic after the Covid failure by governments
at all levels, and countries, to not suppress their “I want power now!”
gene in favour of “I want as few people as possible to get sick and die!”

Oh well!

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