Carly Simon's "You're So Vain"
axemen99
"You're So Vain" has a line about Nova Scotia.
The grandmother song of scathing lyrics, Carly Simon's "You're So
Vain" remains a mystery as to who it's about. Simon's official website
plays up the riddle, saying, when the song was a hit in 1973, "Carly
had just married fellow pop-superstar James Taylor a month before, so
when 'You're So Vain' hit the airwaves, it stirred intense curiosity
about which one of her previous lovers was the subject of this wry nod
to the male ego." It names Mick Jagger (who sings back up on the
song), Cat Stevens, Warren Beatty, and Kris Kristofferson as possible
inspirations.
Rick Walker
"axemen99" wrote:
Ah, the "No Secrets" album... spent a few moments looking at the cover
of that album in my youth, lol. Many rumours abound about who exactly it
was written about - I even heard that Wayne Newton was the inspiration once.
Although I've never heard a concrete answer as to whom it was, Carly was a
pretty good-looking singer/songwriter of that era so the list could include
almost anyone.
There was a period of time that Carly couldn't perform anything on
stage... again, I don't remember the stretch of time that encompassed but
she somehow lost her ability to stand in front of a crowd and sing. James
Taylor on the other hand, has never had a problem performing in front of a
crowd and still does to this day. And he sure as Hell had enough reasons to
avoid the public performances.
But my money (if I had any) would go on Mick Jagger, axemen99.
- Rick
Wayne Hines
All we'd have to do is find out who flew his/her Lear jet up to Nova
Scotia to see the total eclipse of the sun. :-)
gwh
Al Smith
Damn, I'm busted.
-Al-
Wayne Hines
Dream on.
gwh
Rick Walker
"Wayne Hines" wrote:
>Al Smith wrote:
>>> All we'd have to do is find out who flew his/her Lear jet up to Nova
>>> Scotia to see the total eclipse of the sun. :-)
>>>
>>> gwh
>> Damn, I'm busted.
>>
>> -Al-
> Dream on.
>
> gwh
Al, I suppose you're the man responsible for the "raisins on the
breadboard" cover of that album too?
Lucky man! :-)
- Rick
Al Smith
I had to sell the Lear Jet. High altitudes were damaging my complexion.
-Al-
Al Smith
You mean I was supposed to close the windows?
-Al-
Rick Walker
"Al Smith" wrote:
> I had to sell the Lear Jet. High altitudes were damaging my complexion.
You should have swapped it for Hugh Hefner's DC-9... and let the ladies
take care of your "complexion." :-)
- Rick
Rick Walker
"Al Smith" wrote:
> You mean I was supposed to close the windows?
In Hef's Big Bunny you could have "dropped the top." :)
- Rick
Al Smith
The bunnies could cluster around me and form a bubble of pressurized
air for my protection with their silicon-enhanced breasts.
-Al-
Rick Walker
"Al Smith" wrote:
>> In Hef's Big Bunny you could have "dropped the top." :)
>>
>> - Rick
> The bunnies could cluster around me and form a bubble of pressurized air
> for my protection with their silicon-enhanced breasts.
LOL, I caught the movie "Breast Men" on HBO Canada last night - your
timing's impeccable!
- Rick
Daniel MacKay
I was born during a total eclipse of the sun, but I don't think it was
the one in the song, so I've always wondered which eclipse she was
singing about.
Here's a map of the last fifty years of eclipses:
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEmap/SEmapNA/TSENorAm1951.gif
You can figure out the possibilities of my birthday from that - hint - I
was born in Shelburne.)
Daniel MacKay
http://imagecache.allposters.com/images/pic/TEL/6049~Ambassadeurs-Posters
.jpg
See, the hat is strategically dipped below one eye, see, his scarf is
apricot.
Mike Spencer
Daniel MacKay <dan...@bonmot.ca> wrote:
> Here's a map of the last fifty years of eclipses:
>
> http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEmap/SEmapNA/TSENorAm1951.gif
What happened to the eclipse of 1999? Maybe that wasn't quite total
over NS. I recall watching with a welder's shield and heavy cloud
cover streamed in just at the the point of (near?) totality.
> You can figure out the possibilities of my birthday from that - hint - I
> was born in Shelburne.)
Jeez, Dan, yer just a kid! ;-)
--
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
axemen99
> I always assumed that the character for that song came from this poster:
>
> .jpg
>
> See, the hat is strategically dipped below one eye, see, his scarf is
> apricot.
It is pretty close -
http://imagecache.allposters.com/images/pic/TEL/6049~Ambassadeurs-Posters.jpg
I was watching another video yesterday -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnzCu-EZVGk
The song was written about some parties.
Then I watched another one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzldlOG7EqE
She spit the word Mick without hesitation. But a poster said that it
was FRANK SINATRA!
Why?
Her father is the co-founder of Simon & Schuster in NY. Frank sang the
song NYNY. If you study the Total Eclipse from Dan -
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEmap/SEmapNA/TSENorAm1951.gif
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEatlas/SEatlas2/SEatlas1961.GIF
It missed NY that year. You could see the Total Eclipse anywhere in
Nova Scotia that year!
Quote
ABSOLUTELY FRANK SINATRA
the hat he always wore
apricot scarf favorite color orange
the Lear jet
the underworld spies
ALL THESE ARE FRANK
Quote
She wrote it about Frank Sinatra, not about her several boy friends -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Simon
Mystery solved.
demibee
> She spit the word Mick without hesitation. But a poster said that it
> was FRANK SINATRA!
Interestingly, Mick Jagger sang backup on the song. But according to Wiki'...
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27re_So_Vain>
... she says, "Nick."
There are other hints on the page, too. She says it's a composite of
three people, but she also says that 'A', 'R', and 'E' are in the name.
Warren Beatty himself believes it's about him; it'd be pretty vain of him
to believe that if it weren't true... (follow *that* logic! ;)
db
US Patriot
db,
are you a Carly fan?
pH
demibee
> are you a Carly fan?
I like a couple of her songs -- "Anticipation" and "Nobody Does It
Better"... never been an overly big fan of "You're So Vain."
db
John
She's got the serious teeth and can sing with a punch, but is
painfully performance shy from what I read somewhere once upon a time.
Rick Walker
"John" wrote:
She's got the serious teeth and can sing with a punch, but is
painfully performance shy from what I read somewhere once upon a time.
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http://www.heartmath.org/education/musical-performance-anxiety.html
"Among the ranks of those who have suffered from performance anxiety are one
of the world's most loved tenors and opera singers, Enrique Caruso,
internationally known recording artist Carly Simon and the great Spanish
cellist, Pablo Casals."
Happens to the best of us. :)
- Rick
John
I seem to have the opposite problem... not all that talented but
absolutely love to perform in front of a crowd. That's ok too
though... everyone else always seems relieved to have someone do it.
demibee
> "Among the ranks of those who have suffered from performance anxiety are
> one of the world's most loved tenors and opera singers, Enrique Caruso,
> internationally known recording artist Carly Simon and the great Spanish
> cellist, Pablo Casals."
>
> Happens to the best of us. :)
Yep... I can appreciate it all too well!
(If only I had talent to stifle ;)
In fact, as soon as I hit "Send," I'll be heading off to meet some friends
for karaoke. But you'd never see *me* up there... It's just that it's
the only night they play music I actually know -- i.e., the "old" stuff :)
db
Rick Walker
"John" wrote:
"Rick Walker" wrote:
> http://www.heartmath.org/education/musical-performance-anxiety.html
>
> "Among the ranks of those who have suffered from performance anxiety are
> one
> of the world's most loved tenors and opera singers, Enrique Caruso,
> internationally known recording artist Carly Simon and the great Spanish
> cellist, Pablo Casals."
> Happens to the best of us. :)
I seem to have the opposite problem... not all that talented but
absolutely love to perform in front of a crowd. That's ok too
though... everyone else always seems relieved to have someone do it.
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It's almost a prerequisite for Usenet - no, not really. :) It never
bothered me to speak in front of a crowd... (I know, "Look at the Google
Board Rick. We haven't been able to shut you up for years!") lol :-)
- Rick
Rick Walker
"demibee" wrote:
Now there's something I'd never do either... karaoke. Not unless I was
reeeeeeeally drunk. And that's not about to happen anytime soon. I had a
girlfriend once who was really good at it though (karaoke) and I'd sit back,
watch her sing and actually feel proud about her performance. Me? I can't
carry a tune in a bag. :)
- Rick
Wayne Hines
> Now there's something I'd never do either... karaoke. Not unless I was
> reeeeeeeally drunk. And that's not about to happen anytime soon. I had a
> girlfriend once who was really good at it though (karaoke) and I'd sit back,
> watch her sing and actually feel proud about her performance. Me? I can't
> carry a tune in a bag. :)
Isn't "karaoke" a Japanese word that means "tone deaf American"? :-)
gwh
Rick Walker
"Wayne Hines" wrote:
> Isn't "karaoke" a Japanese word that means "tone deaf American"? :-)
It could... it should! lol
- Rick