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John Doe

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Feb 14, 2012, 6:28:29 PM2/14/12
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I have completely forsaken you guys (you weren't posting for so long), so I feel guilty about spamming you with homework questions. But feel free (math brains) to take this as a challenge!

How would you prove that:

If the diagonals of a trapezoid are congruent, then it is an isosceles trapezoid.

I need to do a two-column, but you don't need to do it all. Just a plan for it. Thanks in advance.

Tarek

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Feb 14, 2012, 6:44:02 PM2/14/12
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DA FUQ!? I have a 102 in geometry. Dont meen i like doing it. And i think i speak for most people on this group when i say, no one wants to do an unneeded proof. Sry.

John Doe

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Feb 14, 2012, 6:58:42 PM2/14/12
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ok...
I thought people might enjoy the CHALLENGE!

John Doe

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Feb 14, 2012, 7:46:38 PM2/14/12
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Please...
Whether to show off skill, help out a guy, or improve, doesn't anyone want to give it a whirl?

Silence Dogood

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Feb 14, 2012, 7:59:13 PM2/14/12
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I think the last time I got that problem I grew lazy and just put a question mark on my hw. Sorry! However, I'll ponder it once again

Silence Dogood

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:01:49 PM2/14/12
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Well it has to be something along the lines of the inside angles formed by the angles are congruent by vertical angles and then you do something with the diagonals being congruent to prove those two triangles congruent, thus proving that the legs are congruent by CPCTC, thus proving it is isoceles

John Doe

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:01:58 PM2/14/12
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Oh thank you very much. 

John Doe

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:03:21 PM2/14/12
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CPCTC


what is that?
coresponding parts of congruent triangles c------?

Richard Copenhaver

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:04:17 PM2/14/12
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congruent
c oresponding parts of congruent triangles congruent

Silence Dogood

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:05:33 PM2/14/12
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Corresponding parts of congruent triangles are congruent. Triangle ABC is congruent to triangle DEF so angle A is congruent to angle D, andle E is congruent to angle E, etc.

John Doe

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:05:45 PM2/14/12
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ohh ok

John Doe

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:08:42 PM2/14/12
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I see but the problem is proving the triangles congruent
tell me which theorem to use:

SSS
SAS 
AAS
ASA
AAA (just looking to see if you were paying attention)

John Doe

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:34:00 PM2/14/12
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Awww... Hello?

Richard Copenhaver

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:36:51 PM2/14/12
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side angle side maybe hmmm

John Doe

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:40:35 PM2/14/12
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I see which triangles? (use the wiki article if necessary)

Richard Copenhaver

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:43:49 PM2/14/12
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BEA CED
because its given that the diagonals are congruent
where they bisect each other would be congruent 
those segments i mean 
so you have your two sides and angle E would be your congruent angle but i'm not quite sure how you would prove E to be congruent to E

Richard Copenhaver

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:45:43 PM2/14/12
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oh wait
are a linear pair i think
thats what it's called right
*geometry fail
no but because the segments in the trapezoid are parallel
they would be congruent because they are a linear pair formed by the transversal 

John Doe

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:45:50 PM2/14/12
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Thanks a lot. I have been exploring similarity as well. I know the theorem that if the base angles are congruent then it's isoc for trapezoids.

Richard Copenhaver

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:46:04 PM2/14/12
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and the transversals are the diagonals

John Doe

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:47:17 PM2/14/12
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Ok gotcha. Thanx. Our geometry teacher says if we don't prove a theorem we can't use it on ANY test or hw (we get a zero for that problem). ikr?

Richard Copenhaver

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:47:18 PM2/14/12
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yes also if you proved the triangles congruent then you could use CPCTC to say that the legs are congruent to each other
through the therom about iso. trapezoid legs

John Doe

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:48:38 PM2/14/12
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Here's the problem though, the diagonals don't bisect eahcother

Richard Copenhaver

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:50:27 PM2/14/12
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intersect
i mean
not bisect
they intersect a E

John Doe

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Feb 14, 2012, 8:52:59 PM2/14/12
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I see but what theorem would you use to show they split into congruent segments ie. be=ce etc.?

Silence Dogood

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Feb 14, 2012, 9:04:59 PM2/14/12
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The one that John suggested was the one I was thinking of. SAS, that's why I said vert. ang. thrm.

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