How many have succeeded?

[Al]

Hi everyone,

I would like to find out how many have been successful to heal themselves without a surgery and how many have not? If you could please add some info about what type of hernia you have/had, how long it took, and what was your regiment I would really appreciate it. I am curious as I have been struggling with mine for about an year now and starting to get frustrated. 

My case:

- NOT successful yet

- Small indirect inguinal

- 11 months now 

- Change of diet and lifestyle according to prescriptions here. No breakfast, light lunch, smaller dinners. Stopped weightlifting, running, biking. Doing only the light yoga exercises mentioned throughout this site and swimming. Wearing the truss all the time when out of the house. Makes it manageable but not a healing. 

Cheers,

Al

[Roberto Comenale]

10 months ago i had a surgery and the job was dan perfect never fill anything more. Sucesfull

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[wilson strausser]

I have an incisional hernia left of the belly button I am doing nothing to heal. It never bothers me and doesn't protrude very much. I've had it for about 5 years and it is no worse and probably better as time goes on. I can do anything I want and never think about it until I look in the mirror.

Wilson

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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 17:27:38 -0300
Subject: Re: [herniasupport:2438] How many have succeeded?
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[Xavier Boyreau]

Hi,

Xavier, follower of this group for years (initially attracted by Bei-Yin experience), french (probably the race & culture matters ;-) )

about 3 years since hernia diagnostic.  My inguinal hernia is small (about 6-7 cm long, 2 cm large, 1cm high).  Reductible.

I changed my diet deeply : vegetarian now, (also for other reasons) +  added many fibers in the diet (raw rice  raw wheat  raw sugar) + wearing a light truss. 1m76 high, I was 74kgs 3 years ago, now 70.

Have not been couragous enough yet to apply the various physical exercises seen in Bei-Yin videos or in special-hernia-healing yoga booklet.

Result : no healing but also no worsening. Stable since 3 years.

Xavier

2013/9/9 Al <asim...@gmail.com>

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[Dutty]

I've been quite successful. Inguinal hernia's gone. Doesn't bother me

[Xavier Boyreau]

hmmmm
could you tell us how this healing happened Dutty ?

2013/9/11 Dutty <duttyb...@gmail.com>

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[wilson strausser]

After reading the recent observations of several of you I decided to perform a five-minute-self-digital therapy to my incisional 5-year-old hernia with good results! Simply pushing and with circular pressure by three fingers, pressing with moderate pressure onto the bulge indicating where the hernia is located, and away from the belly button area, after which the hernia did not extend out as far and has remained farther behind the abdominal skin, and perhaps even behind the abdominal muscle wall where it normally should be.

Can I believe the natural gauze-like flesh that holds the abdominal muscles in place has been growing back even though the medical community claims that cannot happen? I dare to believe!
 
It would be nice to have a picture of what has transpired, but lacking same I can only intuitize the process, which I believe to be more fluid under the skin than compromised flesh or intestinal tissue out of place, and in manipulation, I have no doubt pushed the fluid or tissue, or both, (which I consider a normal body function in a damaged physical area for the body's own protection mechanism,) back into the abdominal cavity where it has been absorbed more or less as a normal function of the body with any fluid that protects an injured area.

I will pay attention to the hernia site in coming days and determine if further manipulation will result in continued progress to minimize and hopefully eventually remove the hernia completely.
It is noted here that at no time have I experienced any pain whatsoever, and if I do experience pain I will cease manipulation immediately; but to this point I see digital manipulation of the incisional hernia as a viable therapy of benefit as I have personally experienced.

In  retrospect and comparison in support of my belief; have not others in the past digitally manipulated various body parts in disarray back into normal position? The answer is of course, yes!

Do I have any indication what I am seeing in bulge may well just be fluid under the skin and not the actual hernia? Perhaps!

Again I must cite noticing gurgling sounds while manipulation was in progress, supporting my belief the hernia may well be healed but there is still the fluid build-up indicative of a healing injury site that is on the mend; just as I have experienced with two separate knee repair operations, where the knees, each for several years, displayed swelling with excess fluid after surgery; but as time passed the swelling gradually went away to where the knees now are relatively normal-looking and pain-free. I can apply that experience in comparison to my hernia observation and the timing it may take for complete healing. I am optimistic of success now more than ever!

Thank you all very kindly for your timely input that my hernia healing success will be a direct result of this forum and shows sharing knowledge with others is a great way to be successful in an endeavor!  Thank you all for sharing!!!

Gratefully; Wilson

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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 11:36:09 +0200
Subject: Re: [herniasupport:2443] How many have succeeded?
From: xavier....@gmail.com
To: hernia...@googlegroups.com

[Dutty]

There's probably more going on than I realized. Lifestyle has to do with healing, but it's something that's in the background. I do, or try to do, deep breathing exercises according to BK Franztis, www.energyarts.com, Yoga, weight lifting, walking a couple of miles a day w my dogs, taking vitamin supplements, astaxanthin, CoQ10,Gamma E, Pantothenic Acid (B5), B Complex. But my wife thinks the main thing was the exercise that strengthened the lower abs. Laying on my back, raising my knees toward my chest without lifting my butt off the floor, and lower my feet w toes pointing toward the floor as close as I can get them to my butt. I worked up to 40 times 3 times a week. I used jock straps to keep the bulge in when I worked as a brush mule, dragging brush and logs. I was about a 34 waist & used 28 inch jock straps with a wide belt. I found an old hernia belt at a thrift store, and used the 'bubble' from it for quite a while, until the dogs chewed it up. Then I realized I didn't really need it. That exercise for the lower abs seemed to be the catalyst. You can google youtube for the lower abs to see how it's done. If you lift your butt, ou begin using other muscles. Recently I've been focusing on core exercises, like the abdominal wheel, to strengthen the abdominal girdle. But you can also do Frantzis' Dragon & Tiger Medical Qi Gung to help in healing. Oh yes, Gary Craig's EFT tapping helps to heal as well. All we are really is a bundle of rivers of energy, & when that energy becomes stagnant, we have disease and break downs.

Yours, brother,

Dutty

I wish you well. If you 'intend' to heal, you'll heal because you'll do the things to help your body heal! The EFT mantra is: Even tho I have a hernia (wherever) I totally and completely love and accept myself. That's said while tapping on the karate chopping point on the side of the hand. It's said three times. Then we tap the merdian points. Google them. 2 rounds. If you want more of this lemme know!

Dutty

[Dutty]

Wilson, you might want to check this out: http://www.energyarts.com/offer/five-keys-taoist-energy-arts

This is awesome stuff.

[wilson strausser]

To All:

Upon observation of the incisional hernia area this morning while sitting, there is NO BULGE! To me this proves the 5-minute digital manipulation was beneficial!
Of course, I have no food in my stomach, and in the past after a meal the bulge was markedly greater.

It warrants continued attention, but I feel optimistic of the expected outcome which is complete healing! Time will tell!

Wilson

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 03:09:51 -0400
From: duttyb...@gmail.com
To: hernia...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [herniasupport:2446] How many have succeeded?

[quiet spirit]

[wilson strausser]

Hello Al;

My incisional hernia is about 50% gone. Time has been the biggest factor. It developed about 5 years ago, a year and a half after colon cancer surgery (100% cured and cancer free for 7 years and counting!). The surgeon said this is common but the hernia won't go away by itself.

I think the surgeon is wrong about self-healing!

I have plenty of patience, as two knee surgeries took many years to heal completely. The first knee surgery was 45 years ago and didn't heal completely until I hit 60.
I'm 67 now. The cartilage apparently took that long to form again.

While I worked, the knees were a big problem, often swelling with pain, but never enough to seek medical assistance. Once I retired I could rest as long as I wanted and that accelerated the healing process; staying off my feet as much as possible. After a couple years of resting the knees there was marked improvement; and today they are very close to normal. I still can't stand in one position for very long but the swelling no longer happens.

Don't let anyone tell you it isn't possible, but there are certain herbs that must be used and the regimen must be accompanied by prayer for spiritual guidance for which herbs to employ and dosage, etc.

I no longer have bone on bone without any surgery to assist the re-formation; only surgery to repair the torn ligaments and remove the damaged cartilage initially in the knees.

The reason I bring up the knees is to show time may not be as short as we may desire for complete healing, and of course, we all heal at different rates; and certainly we all have different herniations; but my point being, we must NEVER give up hope for complete healing; for negative thought will hinder the process; and positive thought must NEVER be underestimated!

If you are impatient for complete healing it will make the time go slower. Positive thinking does not allow concern to creep in between you and spiritual assistance. Set backs are inevitable from time to time. WE ARE NOT MACHINES! Let your body heal at it's own pace and stay positive!

Wilson

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:53:54 -0700
From: de...@coralwave.com
To: hernia...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [herniasupport:2449] Re: How many have succeeded?

[Vasco]

 

"I am always doing that which I cannot do, in order that I may learn how to do it." - Pablo Picasso

 

"Believe and act as if it were impossible to fail." - Charles F. Kettering

 

 

Dear Wilson,

 

I think this is great!

 

Two thoughts came to my mind when I read it... 1) What I recently heard a pastor say about healing, ie, we should "SEE OURSELVES HEALED IN OUR MIND'S EYE." This he said would help speed up our healing, and we should do this as often as we can. 2) I got the feeling that if you were to wear a belly-band... you know a band around the navel/waist similar to what used to be placed around the waist of babies (not sure they do that these days). Maybe this would help you very much.

 

My hernia has not healed as yet after over 5 years but I am still hoping, praying, seeing myself healed, etc, and I hope and pray that soon we all will be healed!!!

 

Rgds,

quiet spirit

[wilson strausser]

Yes, QS, ....."in our mind's eye".....everything is possible and scripture supports all possibilities! Timing is not ours to control and experiencing difficulty increases character which strengthens perseverance. Faith that one will succeed must be employed with patience and understanding that unseen forces are in play which we may not understand.

I do not require any physical restraints as the bulge is very manageable and since manipulation is much smaller and barely noticeable this morning!

Prayer for each other will certainly benefit all who participate and my prayer for you this morning is for strength in faith and continued healing! Miracles continue!

Keep the faith!    Wilson

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From: de...@coralwave.com
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Subject: Re: [herniasupport:2450] How many have succeeded?
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 08:42:06 -0700

[steele505]

Hi all,

I was diagnosed about four years ago with a small inguinal hernia. About a month later I started wearing a truss which I ordered from The Support Company. This made it possible for me to function normally. I wore it daily for the first year, during which time I exercised by hiking in the mountains, particularly on walking uphill. After a year I felt confident enough to not use the support at all. Unfortunately my dog companion developed bone cancer and we had to have his front leg removed. I was then lifting him (50 pounds) often into and out of my car, and I was obliged to again wear the support. He died a year and a half later. About six months of not having to lift him, I was able to not use the support. I have reached a point where I have no bulge, and most days do not wear the support. However, if I feel a slight burning sensation in my groin, I will wear the support. I feel like the tissue is slowing bridging across the concerned area, and I'm supporting the area by paying attention to any sensations. If I know in advance that I'll be lifting, I take the cautious route and wear the support. 

David

[radkins08 .]

My Case: Small indirect inguinal on the right side. I started wearing a truss for a short period, 6 months. I tried a little of everthing, diet, extercise,biking,weight lifting, running and yoga.I started on a very small scale, if it hurt I eased up on it.  My belief Is YOU must strienghten

up that weak muscle in order to cure the hernia. One thing I believe that helped more than anything I tried, was sleeping on my left side.

It let the pressure off of the hernia area. Sleeping on you back should do as well as your side. I feel as if I'm heal..However I still watch it if I get

in an awarkward position when lifting something..

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[Al]

Hi,

Thank you all for sharing your experience. This means a lot for me as it has been over an year now and I still haven't healed. Most importantly hearing from the ones that have, what worked and what didn't is very encouraging. I am personally doing just about everything suggested throughout this site and the ones referenced here. If something works out I will share my findings here immediately.

I have to admit though it is a bit discouraging to read how very few have actually succeeded. Although there were not a lot of respondents which may be the reason.

Good luck and all the best of heath!
Al

[Andrew]

As reported elsewhere,  now 18 months into my recovery I'm much improved - and I am really sure I will eventually close that gap completely.  What may be discouraging for some is that it seems there is no progress even though *there is*.  That is because as long as there is a hole it *will* protrude.  As it gets smaller and the muscles around do improve, then you will see (as  I did) that you can hold it in longer, and it will bulge a lot less - especially on an empty stomach/ tummy. And that is the key: if you can get your feces to be relatively solid and you have a regular bowel movement, then the hernia will protrude less and less as your muscle tone improves and the hole gets smaller (I am intuiting the latter, since I have not had X rays etc)

There are enough materials now on the web, the Hernia Bibble (and Francoeur's book) are excellent sources, as well as all of BeiYin/ FalconBlanco's information (thanks a lot, BeiYin! ).. Oh and look up Pilates's 100 basic excercise, very good one too. With these (diet and exercise ) and some common sense  it can definitely be cured, I am really convinced of it now 

All the best - and thanks to all who have generously contributed in the past.  The current medical scene is not very supportive of these methods, an euphemism.

Andrew

[wilson strausser]

Wilson here....I echo Andrew's sentiments on the time factor for complete healing....I'm about 5 years into my incisional hernia and although it is not completely healed it has definitely been reduced; and certainly, if I eat a heavy meal it protrudes more; but my improvement now allows for no protrusion between meals, sitting down.

I have not employed any method to minimize it and must agree the body can heal without any help from methodical treatment; but certainly each hernia is unique in severity and each individual heals at a different rate, especially considering what each person may or may not do that affects the healing rate.

Being retired and 80% military disabled for atherosclerosis, heart failure and arthritis, among other disease such as diabetes and possibily gout, having a free daily schedule, I have the luxury of resting whenever I want. Most people don't have that luxury. I find yard work to be the best exercise I can get for my conditions.

It may be noted here I do a fair amount of yard work exercise which tones my stomach to a fair degree; and if I lift some weight such as a few bricks, it actually flattens the herniated area. I suppose if I did more lifting of a correct nature the healing time would shorten; but the jury will be out forever on that issue as I am not about to go into a hernia-healing exercise routine since I never have pain and don't think about the injury except when I have my shirt off and look in the mirror, besides the fact that my energy level declines quickly during yard work, only allowing a few hours daily..

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Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 07:19:09 -0800
From: hernia...@gmail.com
To: hernia...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [herniasupport:2459] Re: How many have succeeded?

As reported elsewhere,  now 18 months into my recovery I'm much improved - and I am really sure I will eventually close that gap completely.  What may be discouraging for some is that it seems there is no progress even though *there is*.  That is because as long as there is a hole it *will* protrude.  As it gets smaller and the muscles around do improve, then you will see (as  I did) that you can hold it in longer, and it will bulge a lot less - especially on an empty stomach/ tummy. And that is the key: if you can get your feces to be relatively solid and you have a regular bowel movement, then the hernia will protrude less and less as your muscle tone improves and the hole gets smaller (I am intuiting the latter, since I have not had X rays etc)

There are enough materials now on the web, the Hernia Bibble (and Francoeur's book) are excellent sources, as well as all of BeiYin/ FalconBlanco's information (thanks a lot, BeiYin! ).. Oh and look up Pilates's 100 basic excercise, very good one too. With these (diet and exercise ) and some common sense  it can definitely be cured, I am really convinced of it now 

All the best - and thanks to all who have generously contributed in the past.  The current medical scene is .. a disgrace.

Andrew


On Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:41:47 PM UTC-5, Al wrote:

Hi,Thank you all for sharing your experience. This means a lot for me as it has been over an year now and I still haven't healed. Most importantly hearing from the ones that have, what worked and what didn't is very encouraging. I am personally doing just about everything suggested throughout this site and the ones referenced here. If something works out I will share my findings here immediately.

I have to admit though it is a bit discouraging to read how very few have actually succeeded. Although there were not a lot of respondents which may be the reason.
Good luck and all the best of heath!
Al

[george]

I am one of those people who had an umbilical hernia. I had surgery. Everything seemed to be ok. Years later, I was lifting some boxes and felt some pain. The hernia had come back. I went to the doctor and they said that I needed surgery. They also said that if the pain went away I could probably live with it.

Sometimes I have pain and sometimes the pain goes away. I have decided to do something about it. After reading a lot of information and talking to family members who have had hernia surgeries 3 times, I've decided that I should try something different. The idea that the stomach muscle walls continue to be weak even after surgery makes sense. This is the only explanation as to why my hernia has come back. The hernia is now on the left side of my belly button. Previously the operated hernia was on the right side of my belly button.

I have started doing the exercises. I will keep on posting as time goes by. Thanks to all that have taken the time to post your personal experiences.

[wilson strausser]

Wilson here. My incisional hernia is still with me but less protuding. There has never been pain; only a bulge to the left of the belly button. Regardless of how much I lift I never have pain, and as long as I am pain-free I will live with it.

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[Dutty]

I successfully healed my inguinal hernia, and have not had any problems with it anymore. I do yoga and chi gung exercises, standing poses, and a little xing yi. I think a part of the healing process has to do with 'intent.' If you intend to heal, you'll do things that will facilitate that healing process. Stay away from processed foods, GMOs, tobacco, and focus on deep breathing (see www.energyarts.com) exercises. Yes, I do not live a normal western life style, and rarely eat processed foods, and very little meat. And I take a handful of supplements dailey. Best wishes to everyone!

[wilson strausser]

Hello All;

I can't say I have had success and i can't say I haven't. I agree attitude means everything anbd i am of the attitude I will eventually get rid of it somehow; and to this point my incisional hernia is minimal but still protrudes. 

I have other health issues to deal with, namely to lose weight in keeping my diabetes in check without drugs. In this I am being very successful having dropped 20 pounds over the last three months by minimizing baked goods and white foods; and also minimizing those vegetables that grow below the ground (tubers) in favor of cruciferous veggies; minimizing beef and eating more fish. This morning my weight was 187. I won't be happy until I get into the 170's and i expect to be there by mid summer.

I am very strong willed and can easily continue this type of eating; even with an occasional candy bar. The trick is to know when i can "cheat"

Last night I had a barbeque sandwich for a snack around 9 p.m. and when i awoke this morning and weighed myself I had lost a half pound!

Bottom line: I can eat anything as long as I burn it up. I worked hard all day prepping the living room for the painter; filling holes in the wall and moving furniture; so I depleted any fat that had built up, if any. The result was i was hungrier than usual which I satisfied; but I knew how much to eat to restore my energy level without storing fat. 

I believe eating fatty food when in energy depletion is best case scenario, avoiding high sugar content food.

The biggest challenge i now believe is not to lose weight too fast, as I know several people who have passed doing exactly that....they lost weight too last and died from a heart attack.

I plan not to do that!  lol

As far as eating habits and hernias I believe a strong will can conquer most problems, hernias included; and diet plays a part in it as well.

Best to All; Wilson

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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 22:41:43 -0400
From: duttyb...@gmail.com
To: hernia...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [herniasupport:2466] Re: How many have succeeded?

[Dutty]

Hello Wilson et all!
I agree Wilson! Diet, nutrients, are vital. I'm on a special kind of diet. I eat anything I want during an 8 hour period, 11 AM to 7 PM, and fast for 16 hours, with a glass of Vitamin C around midnight, after I finished walking the dogs. Sugar and beef are taboos. Grains are almost off limits. The upshot is, from a study with mice, the group that ate during an 8 hour period were lean. The other group who ate the same amount of calories, but who ate whenever they wanted, were fat. I don't mind eating like this.
Sometimes, around 4AM, which is bedtime, I get a hungry, but I know I'm going to eat again in a couple of hours, and so hunger is easy to blow off. The upshot is that I've lost fat, but not muscle. I'm been doing this for 8 or 10 months at least, and when there's a party or a cookout, it's no big deal. The next day I'll be back on a 16 hour fast. For prootein I'm basically eating powdered pea protein and whey protein with raw unpasteurized cream, maybe a half cup a day, sometimes more. Raw fat is not the same as cooked fat. The cream holds me well. And, as I said, I'm losing fat. It's nice to fit into pants that were too tight a couple of months ago. I rarely use the scale. My pants tell the story. But I'm under 160 now.

Yes, best to all!
Cheers!

Dutty  from West of the Myacka

[Ian V]

You say “I successfully healed my inguinal hernia”. Roughly how big was the hernia before it healed – the size of a grape, twice that size, three times that size? How long did you have it. How long did it take to completely heal once it started getting smaller. Thanks.

[wilson strausser]

You've made some excellent choices, Andrew! I too am off whites for the most part with the occasional cheating! lol

My incisional hernia is responding the same as your inguinal hernia and is minimizing as I lose weight.

Wilson

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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:24:15 -0700
From: hernia...@gmail.com
To: hernia...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [herniasupport:2470] Re: How many have succeeded?

Hi Andrew here 

Well I'm still not completely healed, but there is definitely progress.  I now can walk around without support for at least a few minutes with the hernia staying in under some conditions (I have a small inguinal hernia, right side, size of large prune when extended). This ONLY happens when my belly isn't full, or rather if I have eaten things that are not conducive to either gas or soft stools.  It does make sense .. if I do have gas or liquid/ soft stools the hernia will protrude faster, within 5-10 seconds (from a lying position, when I stand). This makes perfect sense, because even if there has been progress in the sense that the hole has been reduced in size, as long as there is a hole (no matter how small) it will let the hernia protrude.

I have been experimenting with diet, best are green veggies and carrots (raw, sometimes zapped with a blender for convenience) and other cooked vegetables.. sometimes meat too seems to work as long as I add fiber rich food afterwards. Also completely off starches (bread, rice, etc. exceptions being quinoa and rye crispies) and sugars .. tho on occasion breaking the rules ;D 

And I am not really exercising as much as I should. But I try to keep doing at least some basic movements ea day (for sure the BeiYin leg lifts w/ variations).

Tip: for muscle building it is recommended to exercise hard, and NOT take any sugars for an hour or so afterwards, but some protein is OK.  (Check out Mercola re HIIT)

All the best   - 

A.

[Dutty]

Hi, Ian!
        My hernia was about the size of a golf ball in diameter. It didn't get smaller. I must have had it for 6 or 7 years, or longer. It just went in when I started concentrating on excercises for the lower abs.
I've been successful at self healing. I had flat feet for 65 years. I have nice arches now. I wore glasses until I was 35, and then started doing eye exercises. I haven't worn glasses since, although I put them on for reading size 8 fonts and below. I figured if anyone healed his hernia, then I could do it too. That was my mind set. I worked as a brush mule, dragging brush and lifting pretty heavy chunks of logs while I had the hernia. I made myself a hernia belt out of two small jock straps and the foam pad from a hernia belt I found at a thrift shop. When I wasn't doing heavy lifting, one jock strap was enough. One day in the shower the bulge wasn't there. It wasn't there when I did the plow pose or a head stand either, or when I lay on my back. It also didn't hurt the vast majority of the time. It went back and forth for a while, but once it was staying in, I knew I was healing. I really didn't work at it until I found this hernia site.
         I suspect the hernia is a symptom of a larger problem: the body is not strong or in good health. Everything in the body is interconnected. The hernia is just the weakest point. If you build enough chi with chi gung exercises, that will cure it too. But the lower ab exercises were the catalyst. If I can do it, anyone can do it, if they decide to heal themselves. Don't fuss about it, don't worry about it, just keep working at it, and it'll happen.
        Good Luck, Ian. I wish you well!

Dutty

[wilson strausser]

Good work, Dutty!   Wilson

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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 12:44:07 -0400
From: duttyb...@gmail.com
To: hernia...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [herniasupport:2472] Re: How many have succeeded?

[wilson strausser]

Someone in this hernia support group lives in Costa Rica. I would like to know who it is to get some advice on vacationing there.    Wilson

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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 12:44:07 -0400
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Subject: Re: [herniasupport:2472] Re: How many have succeeded?

[George]

It has been a few months since I last wrote.  I have been exercising regularly.  I have mostly been doing stomach crunches while holding down what remains of the protrusion.   

The exercises have strengthen my stomach walls.  The hernia is still there but almost gone.  The exercises have also prevented me from getting other hernias around my now stronger stomach walls.

Hope this helps everyone who's looking for the real cure.  

George

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[wilson strausser]

As I sit here my incisonal hernia is not protruding but as soon as I stand I expect it will. I've gained a couple pounds which I suspect has encouraged the swelling and plan to lose some weight again....I'm at 189 now, but was down to 183 before going on vacation; and at 183 the hernia stayed in most of the time; so now I know if I want to lose weight i can't go on vacation!     lol

Wilson

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Subject: Re: [herniasupport:2485] Re: How many have succeeded?
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 19:06:44 +0200
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[Dutty]

Yeah, vacations can be deadly weight wise! I'm eating normally for 8 hours, fasting except for vit C for 16 hours.
On a study they did with mice, the 16 hours fast group was lean, the eat any time group, same amount of calories, were fat. If you can do it, it works. Really can't eat that much in 8 hours, plus by the time I'm hungry, it's only a few hours more. I can handle that! I'm also eating raw cream. Satisfies the appetite for longer. Processed and raw are not the same. The more raw we eat the healthier we get.
Cheers!

Dutty

[Dutty]

Don't forget the lower abs, George!

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[Maththew Wallace]

I read somewhere that vitamin B12 is produced by bacteria in the soil and that herbivorous animals get it because they eat some soil with the vegs. any opinions.

On Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:06 AM, George <gzh...@gmail.com> wrote:

It has been a few months since I last wrote.  I have been exercising regularly.  I have mostly been doing stomach crunches while holding down what remains of the protrusion.   

The exercises have strengthen my stomach walls.  The hernia is still there but almost gone.  The exercises have also prevented me from getting other hernias around my now stronger stomach walls.

Hope this helps everyone who's looking for the real cure.  

George

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On 6. apr. 2014, at 23:23, Ian V <ivicke...@gmail.com> wrote:

You say “I successfully healed my inguinal hernia”. Roughly how big was the hernia before it healed – the size of a grape, twice that size, three times that size? How long did you have it. How long did it take to completely heal once it started getting smaller. Thanks.

On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 10:41:43 PM UTC-4, Dutty wrote:

I successfully healed my inguinal hernia, and have not had any problems with it anymore. I do yoga and chi gung exercises, standing poses, and a little xing yi. I think a part of the healing process has to do with 'intent.' If you intend to heal, you'll do things that will facilitate that healing process. Stay away from processed foods, GMOs, tobacco, and focus on deep breathing (see http://www.energyarts.com/) exercises. Yes, I do not live a normal western life style, and rarely eat processed foods, and very little meat. And I take a handful of supplements dailey. Best wishes to everyone!

On 03/31/2014 06:45 AM, george wrote:

I am one of those people who had an umbilical hernia.  I had surgery.  Everything seemed to be ok.  Years later, I was lifting some boxes and felt some pain.  The hernia had come back.  I went to the doctor and they said that I needed surgery.  They also said that if the pain went away I could probably live with it.

Sometimes I have pain and sometimes the pain goes away.  I have decided to do something about it.  After reading a lot of information and talking to family members who have had hernia surgeries 3 times, I've decided that I should try something different.  The idea that the stomach muscle walls continue to be weak even after surgery makes sense.  This is the only explanation as to why my hernia has come back.  The hernia is now on the left side of my belly button.  Previously the operated hernia was on the right side of my belly button.  

I have started doing the exercises.  I will keep on posting as time goes by.  Thanks to all that have taken the time to post your personal experiences.  

  

On Monday, September 9, 2013 10:21:02 PM UTC+2, Al wrote:

Hi everyone,


I would like to find out how many have been successful to heal themselves without a surgery and how many have not? If you could please add some info about what type of hernia you have/had, how long it took, and what was your regiment I would really appreciate it. I am curious as I have been struggling with mine for about an year now and starting to get frustrated. 


My case:


- NOT successful yet
- Small indirect inguinal
- 11 months now 
- Change of diet and lifestyle according to prescriptions here. No breakfast, light lunch, smaller dinners. Stopped weightlifting, running, biking. Doing only the light yoga exercises mentioned  throughout this site and swimming. Wearing the truss all the time when out of the house. Makes it manageable but not a healing. 


Cheers,
Al

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[Oliver]

I have been following this group and many others for some years ( I believe close to 5 now) and did most of everything recommended before I had surgery about 3 month ago. Fact is hernia can only be healed with surgery and everything else is a bunch of BS. Yes eating less, special diets, no (heavy) sport, wearing a truss all sure helps for the better or worse but with such a SMALL surgery it's pretty much a no brainer to me to just get it done and 3 days later most of everything is over you will not have to think about it anymore. About  6 to 12 weeks you can do all sports and eat whatever you like. I figured it is better to have surgery than not to have breakfast or do sport etc..

2 days after I left the hospital (had to stay 2 nights) I was already lifting, carrying stuff and moving a lot of heavier things around. Of course still slow and carefully but still walking, moving, lifting... and all after 2 days post surgery...more than what I could do with the hernia.:)

Now come to think of it I should have done it much earlier and not listen to a bunch of people that think they can fix the world with some of there ideas. I'm sure medicine has at least done some of it's part to make little issues like a Hernia better understood. The surgery takes less than 30 minutes, no cuts as it is all micro surgery where they use little tubes and blow your bellie off with some sort of gas, you can almost not see the scarves anymore after 3 month and it's being done who knows how many times every day all around the world. Don't get me wrong, I'm very aware in general and do believe in a lot of alternative medicine more so than in western medicine yet still..... if you wanna get it fixed to fully function again you will have to have surgery. If you do not wanna eat breakfast, do  no or little sports than don't do it as after years you will for sure get used to the hernia and modify your life accordingly...if that's how you wanna live your life....oh and in addition I hope and I'm sure yo know it can kill you if things go wrong and it becomes and emergency situation where the hernia breaks. In a nutshell if you ask me DO IT ASAP and move on...

[wilson strausser]

Hello Oliver;

Wilson here with the incisional hernia from nine years ago......first off; I must comment everyone's situation is different as there are many different types of hernias, some with complications that also must be addressed....when I first noticed the bulge aside my bellybutton, i assumed the colon cancer was back and rushed right back to my surgeon who assured me it was not the return of cancer but just an incisional hernia which he said is common in my type of operation. He asked if i had pain and I said "No."....to which he said, if it doesn't bother me he advises I live with it.
That is what I have been doing for the last nine years without any trouble and without any routine to attempt self-healing. I am active with yeard work and do-it-yourself projects, and from time to time heavy lifting, without any pain or discomfort; in fact, if anyone would ask I recommend staying active with proper lifting technique, which I try to follow; and at this point, the hernia continues to minimize.

I monitor the site closely and believe the healing process is continuing with new flesh growing below the skin to retain the bulge which only manifests if I overeat. The main concern as i am told from the medical standpoint is strangulation should the hernia become lodged among the new flesh without any means of retraction back where it belongs in the abdominal cavity; and I have digitally pushed it back in a couple times; but have not had any episodes of great concern to this point, and continue to believe at some future time this hernia will be healed on it's own without much effort.

As I said earlier; everyone's situation is different....and mine is complicated with a quintuple heart bypass the year prior to the colon surgery; so I must add I have much resting time early on and my energy level was suspect for several years; but today I can do whatever I please and do not even think about the hernia when I am working.

So in conclusion; I must advise each of us must make our own decision for self-heal or medical assistance in the form of surgery, depending on each unique situation.

I am glad I have opted to allow self-healing with spiritual support from Our Maker; as He has been with me at all times, even when I was not aware; as there are other instances in my past proving I am not alone in my quest of continued life and am protected from undue harm in that respect as His Will determines; and I must give all the credit to His unfailing attendance to my needs through life; not only with hernia healing, but in all manner of life-sustaining assistance on Earth.

Even the herbal regimen I continue with daily has the same spiritual attendance in determining dosage and what to take.

One other recommendation I make, therefore; is suggesting any decision should be made with meditation assistance of the spiritual realm.

My choice is advisory contact with the highest; however that manifests, through personal faith.

Wilson

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Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 05:30:27 -0700
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Subject: [herniasupport:2492] Re: How many have succeeded?

[Andrew]

Hi Oliver

Sounds good - surgery is always an option and I try to keep an open mind as much as possible.  Would you mind sharing what your condition was and what type of surgery you did  - mesh?  what kind.. and specifics of the operation you undertook - the more details the better. I remember researching the surgical operations and costs available, and there was no clear consensus.

Thanks,

Andrew

PS. Added later:  I gather you had a laparoscopic operation with a patch repair ... can you tell us what your condition was and the cost of the procedure, maybe how you chose the surgeon (in these cases that choice is critical).

[Andrew]

Well I thought I'd post an update - my progress continues slowly - to be honest I've been slacking off re my regimen and physical exercises, but at least  I try and do basic abdominals *even in bed* as I wake up.   I can see that I can keep the bulge in for longer in the AM after getting up as long as I haven't got too much inside - definitely doesn't work if for some reason there are liquidy things down there. When I sit at my desk I don't need the truss, but it is a pain to put the truss on and off so I end up wearing it most of the time.   ..   I can see also that it is sometimes harder to push the bulge back in - which is a good sign, meaning the hole is probably reducing in size. But then having that looming threat mentioned somewhere, of possible strangulation. Wondering what would be the best way to let it heal completely without taking any risk of keeping anything out.  So a work in progress still. 

PS. A friend of mine had the operation a few years ago, but he feels sometimes a pain and has to be careful about lifting heavy objects though he is stronger (and younger by some 20 years) than me. I guess "they" didn't do the operation properly or it didn't heal properly.  I can and do lift heavy boxes at times, but only when wearing a truss AND making sure I have my belly not too full, PLUS being careful to contract the 'right' muscles (abdominals) when i lift.

[wilson strausser]

Please continue to strive to heal, Andrew!

My situation is different from most....as a review; my incisional hernia developed about a year and a half after and from surgery; to the left of my bellybutton....never have had pain, but there is a hole that it pushes out from awhile after eating a full meal. Sitting, it retracts, but standing it is obvious; although as time goes on the bulge is decreasing....the last a doctor looked at it I was told if it doesn't bother me to let it be....so I continue....lifting things actually makes it retract more....a good sign! I have no plan for reduction of the bulge as it appears to be minimizing as time progresses.

I believe the hole it protrudes through has now largely healed over even though doctors say this isn't possible.

I believe we can heal ourselves with positive mental attitude and the power of the Almighty!

I do yard work often and picking things up appears to benefit the continuing retraction.
I acturally believe my spiritual process of non-acceptance of the bulge does as much to minimize as physical effort. I am not overweight to the point of necessitating weight-loss diet, but losing ten or fifteen pounds would be a plus....hard to do in cold weather and this winter has been exceptionally cold in southeastern Pennsylvania; but I am pleased overall at the progress of bulge elimination even though the surgery that caused the hernia is 11 years in the past; still; I expect full healing eventually....but I will be 70 in 15 months....so if I live long enough I believe healing shall come! lol

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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 03:52:11 -0800
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Subject: [herniasupport:2495] Re: How many have succeeded?

[radkins08 .]

I tried everything to no avail. I'm in the seventy's, only go to Drs

unless I have too, don't take no meds.  I tried about 2yrs, then

decided on the operation..Everything turn out great !! Sometimes I

wished I'd had done it sooner. The Dr. had a great reputation for this

type of operations..Now my bowel movements or better, I'm in a greater frame of mind, and I'm exercise like I use too..

My advice: Don't too long before seeking help... 

BEEN THERE, DONE THAT!!!

[wilson strausser]

Granted; a hernia caused by injury is different from an incisional hernia which is caused by surgery. Since my hernia was induced and not due to physical weakness I believe my choice not to have a corrective operation is right for me and my doctors agree; keeping in mind I have no pain and no type of physical activity makes it worse....everyone is different.
Correct me if I'm wrong....I am of the opinion that in most cases hernia occurs when the flesh is too weak to perform a certain strength requirement and would not have occured had the flesh been strong enough to withstand whatever strain caused the hernia.  
There are certain instances when a person exceeds their strength ability and many times this happens more than once; hence the double hernia situation.ent
Had a hernia sufferer been prepared for the hernia causing event it never would have happened.
Therefore; it is easier to prevent a hernia than to repair one; but for those who already have a hernia this is a moot point.   Wilson

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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 09:26:41 -0600
Subject: Re: [herniasupport:2496] Re: How many have succeeded?
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[Andrew]

Edit (update November 18 2015): I'm happy to report that even though I am not completely healed, I am still making very good progress. Now on an empty stomach my hernia stays in for a few minutes without problem, and I can keep it in for much longer when standing up by simply using my leg muscles as if I were to squeeze the ground between my feet.  I can tell where there is still a small hole, and the muscle action I mentioned tightens the muscles there.

Can't wait till it closes completely but I have to admit I am not as regular about exercising as I should/ could.  I just do the occasional squeezes etc when I think about it, I guess all the information I have studied just gets used more or less subconsciously.

One thing I've been doing as much as possible also is  when  working at my desk to not use my hernia belt, but cross my (right) leg over, or  now simply be careful to keep the hernia IN.   All the best for  all of you still on the road to healing!  

Ron: glad it turned out fine for you. As far as I'm concerned the hernia isn't too much of a hindrance, with a belt I can do just about anything, even play tennis etc. - swimming is a bit more of a pain so I've cut that out. Some things to watch for, as you get older it is harder to build up muscle and connective tissues I figured, so the right nutrition helps (L Glutamine supplement was recommended to me by a natural doc); and you need to watch how your body reacts to the food you take. For me it has taken a while to figure out which foods to avoid and how to take the right foods. Now that I have healed quite a bit -as I can tell from the difficulty I have pushing back in the hernia- I tend to eat even lighter but more condensed than I used to. Once in a while I forget about it all, and it takes a day or so to get back in my regular shape.

Some friends of mine advise to get the operation and be done with it. Turns out the one who mentions this the most has had an operation that wasn't so well done after all as he has to avoid lifting heavy weights and has some pains at times. I do lift much heavier boxes, of course being careful how I lift them, and I encourage him to work out the same exercises I do, because a mesh is only that, a mesh, and if the surrounding tissues are still weak they can break again.  Francoeur himself (the French doc who devised his non surgical repair method, see below) has had to have his operation redone, and that is why he investigated after a third one was "required".

To be honest, I really do not exercise as hard as I should, and I can see how this can be a deterrent for many. It has also taken a few years before tangible progress could be seen. IN some cases as yours maybe an operation is the only solution. Nobody really knows, and one can only know after trying, and trying is also not a black and white term. Well, all tehe best to you all, whichever way you choose to go.