Ultra Sound massage the area of hernia?

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Joseph

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Apr 3, 2009, 3:41:51 PM4/3/09
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I'm considering the purchase of this:

http://shop.mendmeshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=32&osCsid=r71r9ue5ee7hqk8m9smmnaluu4

ultra sonic massager to massage my abdomen after doing the exercises.
Anyone have any thoughts? Also, what are Boyd's exercises? I've
heard them mentioned but have never actually read them. Where are
they? Anyone have a link?

Joe

Otto Summerfield

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Apr 3, 2009, 8:14:41 PM4/3/09
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Hi Joseph!
I had a friend who had used ultra sound with a pain in his elbow, and it
removed the pain. If you got the money, go for it. I bet it will speed
healing. Keep us posted, please!

Juba

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Apr 4, 2009, 10:10:41 AM4/4/09
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I have no experience with ultrasound. I do think using a vibration
massager could help to get the hernia contents to retract back where
they should be, especially when you are lying on your back. While you
are waiting for someone to post a link to Boyd's exercises, click over
on the "Pages" link at the top right hand side of any discussion page
in this forum. You will find some interesting stuff there. See the
page I posted about "restful position for hernia healing." As I
suggested, using a vibrator may may enhance the beneficial effects of
this lying position. If I ever need to do it, I will just borrow my
girlfriend's vibrator that she uses for other purposes ;-)

Juba

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Apr 4, 2009, 10:22:06 AM4/4/09
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Here's the link to Boyd's exercise ideas: http://goldmark.net/Hernia-Exercises/

Maththew Wallace

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Jun 14, 2010, 8:25:51 PM6/14/10
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joseph, you ask about the boyd excercises. i seem to remember that he talked about "crunches". that is like a situp. but you go only about halfway up. i think that if you google crunches you will get it.



Maththew Wallace

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Jun 14, 2011, 3:43:44 PM6/14/11
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joseph, i remember boyd. he said that he did "crunches". that is something like a situp. also i asked him whether he wore the truss. he said about 50%
of the time. the ultra sound machine sounds interesting. maybe it helps with the prostate. has anyone heard of HIFU. you can google it and you will see that it is used for the prostate. matt

wilson strausser

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Jun 14, 2011, 6:23:41 PM6/14/11
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Hi Matt!
 
Ultrasound has a good ring to it. I wonder if a hand - held vibrator would work well too?  I have considered consulting a chiropractor to get that take but never followed through because I feel my H is going away with time. Wilson
 
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Maththew Wallace

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Jun 16, 2011, 11:21:41 AM6/16/11
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wilson, a fellow from canada said that his doc told that the HIFU is the latest treatment for prostate. the doc also said that it would be very expensive in can and that he might go to cuba where he said they have the HIFU machine. do you have an issue with urination. anybody? maybe one of us could find more about it.  matt

Dutty Boukman

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Jun 16, 2011, 11:29:01 AM6/16/11
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Google Baking Soda and Cancer. Cancer is not a disease. Cancer is a busyness.

wilson strausser

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Jun 17, 2011, 9:28:03 AM6/17/11
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Hi Matt;
 
Yes; my urination is weak at times but if I drink like I am supposed to it gets stronger. I just don't think about drinking much. I suspect if I drink more my weak stream will strengthen. I've had my prostate checked recently and it is apparently normal.
 
Wilson
 

Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:21:41 -0700
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Maththew Wallace

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Jul 1, 2011, 10:52:23 PM7/1/11
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one doc told me to get "liquid chlorophyl". it comes  from a company in a place called spanish fork, utah. however, a lady here   with naturalistc leanings said--nonsense, just put some parsley or some other green in a blender with water, blend and strain and you have a better product at a fraction of the cost. makes sense to me. has anyone had any experience with
this or been advised to use it. matt

wilson strausser

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Jul 2, 2011, 12:59:55 AM7/2/11
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Hi Matt;
 
I just happen to have a good quantity of fresh parsley in my herb bed. How is it supposed toi be used? Wilson
 

Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 19:52:23 -0700
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Subject: [herniasupport:2289] liquid chlorophyl
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Maththew Wallace

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Jul 2, 2011, 7:00:42 PM7/2/11
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hi wilson, there are so many ideas and conflicting ideas. i dont know if anybody has "the truth". however, a lot of places tell you to get chlorophil and any green leafy veg has to have
it. anyway you can blend parsley with tomatoe for example and make a sauce or you can
blend parsley with water and strain and get what they call "liquid chlorophil".

quiet spirit

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Jul 2, 2011, 8:02:55 PM7/2/11
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On Jul 1, 7:52 pm, Maththew Wallace <mattwal1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> one doc told me to get "liquid chlorophyl". it comes  from a company in a place called spanish fork, utah. however, a lady here   with naturalistc leanings said--nonsense, just put some parsley or some other green in a blender with water, blend and strain and you have a better product at a fraction of the cost. makes sense to me. has anyone had any experience with
> this or been advised to use it. matt


Matt, I think you would do well by using a search engine like Google
and find out much of this info for yourself… better yet check it out
on one of the health sites I list below.

Just the other day, I stumbled on an article by Dr Joseph Mercola
praising the goodness of Spirulina and Chlorophyl. Spriulina is
regarded as much better and both of them have similar nutriments for
our bodies. Spirulina is said to be very good for sleep, relieves gas
and it has many useful vitamins and minerals for the body. It also has
way more protein than red meat (this is why I bought it about 3 days
ago… I am not a meat eater and as you know we need much protein to
rebuild the muscle and tendon to keep the H in).

I started using the Spirulina at about half the recommended dosage and
it has been all right so far (I still use many other supplements… the
brand of Spirulina I bought is manufactured by Nature’s Way).

I notice that Dr Weil does not speak too well of Spirulina and
Chlorophyl, saying that there is no scientific evidence that they are
as good as spoken about. However, I believe Natural News and Dr
Mercola who claim that the goodness of Spirulina has been noted
centuries ago, backed up by much research.

Good health to the Group
quiet spirit

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/current.aspx
http://www.naturalnews.com/
http://www.drweil.com/drw/ecs/ask_dr_weil/index.html

Dutty Boukman

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Jul 2, 2011, 10:17:25 PM7/2/11
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I have the liquid chlorophyl, but we also make a green smoothie and use parsley, and leafy greens, plus banana or orange juice to sweeten it. Xylitol is an excellent sweetener with a glycemic index reading of 7. Chewing xylitol gum 4 times a day 4 2 years produced 90% fewer cavities in children 5 years later. I'm sipping a half teaspoon of xylitol in a half cup of water 4 times a day. Bacteria can't digest xylitol, so they can't produce the acid that produces cavities. You can sweeten green smoothies with xylitol too.
 
Bless your hearts,
 
Dutty
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Subject: [herniasupport:2289] liquid chlorophyl

Dutty Boukman

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Jul 2, 2011, 10:37:08 PM7/2/11
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Hi Quiet Spirit!
Chlorella removes toxins, including mercury. I took a tablespoon, and got
horribly ill overnight.
I suspected it was the chlorella, so I took a teaspoon the next night. I
damn near died. My son had the same experience. I got some chlorella tablet.
They said, "Take 10." I took a half a one, and I felt a slight nausea,
nothing I couldn't handle. So I would recommend caution.

Bless your hearts,

Dutty
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From: "quiet spirit" <de...@coralwave.com>
To: "herniasupport" <hernia...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:02 PM
Subject: [herniasupport:2292] Re: liquid chlorophyl


On Jul 1, 7:52 pm, Maththew Wallace <mattwal1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> one doc told me to get "liquid chlorophyl". it comes from a company in a
> place called spanish fork, utah. however, a lady here with naturalistc
> leanings said--nonsense, just put some parsley or some other green in a
> blender with water, blend and strain and you have a better product at a
> fraction of the cost. makes sense to me. has anyone had any experience
> with
> this or been advised to use it. matt


Matt, I think you would do well by using a search engine like Google

and find out much of this info for yourself� better yet check it out


on one of the health sites I list below.

Just the other day, I stumbled on an article by Dr Joseph Mercola
praising the goodness of Spirulina and Chlorophyl. Spriulina is
regarded as much better and both of them have similar nutriments for
our bodies. Spirulina is said to be very good for sleep, relieves gas
and it has many useful vitamins and minerals for the body. It also has
way more protein than red meat (this is why I bought it about 3 days

ago� I am not a meat eater and as you know we need much protein to


rebuild the muscle and tendon to keep the H in).

I started using the Spirulina at about half the recommended dosage and

it has been all right so far (I still use many other supplements� the
brand of Spirulina I bought is manufactured by Nature�s Way).

Dutty Boukman

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Jul 2, 2011, 11:34:59 PM7/2/11
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We put it in the blender, add a little water, and push the button; then we add turnip greens or collards, etc.

wilson strausser

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Jul 2, 2011, 11:57:04 PM7/2/11
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Dutty; You damn near died and all you recommend is caution? I guess I'll pass altogether! lol   Wilson
 
> and find out much of this info for yourself… better yet check it out

> on one of the health sites I list below.
>
> Just the other day, I stumbled on an article by Dr Joseph Mercola
> praising the goodness of Spirulina and Chlorophyl. Spriulina is
> regarded as much better and both of them have similar nutriments for
> our bodies. Spirulina is said to be very good for sleep, relieves gas
> and it has many useful vitamins and minerals for the body. It also has
> way more protein than red meat (this is why I bought it about 3 days
> ago… I am not a meat eater and as you know we need much protein to

> rebuild the muscle and tendon to keep the H in).
>
> I started using the Spirulina at about half the recommended dosage and
> it has been all right so far (I still use many other supplements… the
> brand of Spirulina I bought is manufactured by Nature’s Way).

wilson strausser

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Jul 2, 2011, 11:59:26 PM7/2/11
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Dutty; Ever try cinnamon as a sweetner? I use it on my oatmeal with blueberries and skip the sweetner altogether.    Wilson
 

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Subject: Re: [herniasupport:2293] liquid chlorophyl
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 22:17:25 -0400

wilson strausser

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Jul 3, 2011, 12:03:28 AM7/3/11
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Hello QS;
 
I take some of my herbs at bedtime with Concord wine and sleep very well along with niacin, fish oil, policosinol and magnesium.  Wilson
 
> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 17:02:55 -0700

> Subject: [herniasupport:2292] Re: liquid chlorophyl

Dutty Boukman

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Jul 3, 2011, 12:43:13 AM7/3/11
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I really didn't damn near die, I just felt like it. lol U might not have the toxins I have. Might have been me, but my son had a similar reaction. I was sick, no doubt.
 
Bless your hearts,
 
Dutty
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Dutty Boukman

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Jul 3, 2011, 12:47:16 AM7/3/11
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Yeah, we use cinnamon all the time, but it's the real cinnamon as oppose to the commercial cinnamon. At the moment I'm not eating any grains. Trying to shed a few pounds. But cinnamon would take the place of a sweetner . . . easily!
 
Bless your hearts,
 
Dutty
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wilson strausser

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Jul 4, 2011, 10:27:15 AM7/4/11
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Be that as it may, Dutty; if it affected your son the same way I won't try it for sure! Wilson
 

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Subject: Re: [herniasupport:2299] Re: liquid chlorophyl
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 00:43:13 -0400

wilson strausser

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Jul 4, 2011, 10:42:25 AM7/4/11
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Yup; I sent to a NYC supplier...Zenobia Company makers of MySpiceSage brand.... for real cinnamon through the mail....claimed to be from Ceylon; but I don't care where it's from so long as it isn't Cassia....I got a one pound bag for 16.50 that ships free for orders over 40 dollars. They also have coupon codes but I don't know if they
apply to cinnamon; the codes changed since I ordered.
 
Wilson  

 
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Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 00:47:16 -0400

Dutty Boukman

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Jul 4, 2011, 5:57:16 PM7/4/11
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That's [laying it safe, Wilson!
 
Bless your heart.

Dutty Boukman

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Jul 4, 2011, 5:58:51 PM7/4/11
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That's a pretty good price coming out of Ceylon. MountainRose Herbs. Com sells it for $21.50 an lb.
 
Bless your heart,

Dutty Boukman

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Jul 15, 2011, 8:00:47 AM7/15/11
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Maththew Wallace

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Jul 15, 2011, 9:55:58 PM7/15/11
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hi dutty, i am surprised that people want to sweeten the smoothie. i seem to be more hungry
for the salty quality. i would add soy sauce or sea weed.

Dutty Boukman

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Jul 15, 2011, 11:14:57 PM7/15/11
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Well, maybe that's what we're really looking for! I'll have to try that. Knew something wasn't right.
Thanks Maththew,
 
Dutty
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John Leland

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Jul 20, 2011, 12:22:10 PM7/20/11
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My new email address is: lela...@roadrunner.com
 
John Leland


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Maththew Wallace

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Jun 5, 2012, 3:45:57 PM6/5/12
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hi group, somebody mentioned the "french method" and there were phone numbers. but i lost it. could somebody help me. i want to get those phone numbers again. it said something about "you do not have to come to paris etc etc.
matt
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