Is this group still active?
Tom Travis
My name is Tom and this is my first posting. Since I don't see any
current posts, I'm wondering if there are any members out there that
are still interested in posting.
Here is a little information about my hernia:
I am 70 years old, I have had an inguinal hernia on my right side for
5 years. the bulge comes and goes, and pain in the area comes and goes
as well. When I have pain, it goes from my low back through to my
abdomen and into my right testicle. Lately I've been wearing
compression underwear which seems to make the whole hernia area feel
better.
Here's what I do to help (hopefully) healing my hernia:
Every morning I do yoga postures for about 1 hour. The postures
include a series of warmups and then stretches that are focused on
strengthening the low back and the abdominal muscles, increasing
circulation to the pelvic area, and inverted (anti-gravity postures).
I have researched yoga postures to be sure not to do any postures that
would have a negative effect on the hernia. I've been doing this
consistently for the last 2 months.
I try to get a good walk in every day ... at least a mile briskly.
Whenever I do hard work and lifting, I wear a lumbar support belt, low
enough to cover my hernia area, along with the compression underwear.
I am confident that my hernia can heal if I exercise properly and pay
attention to what my body is telling me. I have kept it at bay for 5
years, but I want to heal it completely.
I hope there are some of you that would like to bring these
discussions back to life. Thanks for listening to my story.
Stay Well,
Tom Travis
Juba
compiled a list of yoga asanas (poses) that are said to be helpful or
harmful for hernia healing, from various sources. Maybe you have seen
the list already. The URL is:
http://herniaalternatives.multiply.com/journal/item/6/Recommended_yoga_exercises_for_hernia_treatment
I used fasting, yoga and Chinese herbal medicine to heal my inguinal
hernia. The main yoga exercises I used were shoulderstand, headstand,
bridge and "stomach vacuum" (upward abdominal lock or uddiyana
bandha). Uddiyana bandha is hard to master, but it is the most
effective yoga exercise of all for hernia healing, in my opinion. At
that time I had not yet gathered the fuller list of useful yoga
exercises, otherwise I would have incorporated them.
Juba (Julian Clegg)
Juba
still active. Some of us also post on the Hernia Support Forum run
from Sussex, England by a company that makes an improved, flat-padded
kind of hernia support. The forum URL is:
http://www.groin-hernia.com/phpBB/index.php
Juba
Xavier Boyreau
Yes this group is alive.
I have been conviced by the funding member of this group not to go to
surgery. Since then (2 years ago), I have unfortunatly not been very
keen on doing the exercises.
In fact I went another way, due to some personal searches on another
side of health. I have tried to improve my diet, in order to 1)
improve my health and 2) have a positive effect on my hernia (plus
various environmental aspects out of scope here).
The supposed effect of diet is based on the following analysis that
you may find looking around on the internet :
- probably hernia occurs due to an effort (a hole is formed in the
abdominal muscles wall)
- the development (increase) of the hernia is due to internal
pressure (intestin) + muscles wall weakness increase
- so correct diet avoids excessive pressure and excercises srengthen
and rebuilds the wall
Looks simple but needs to be proven ;-)
In fact using both a truss (probably what you call "belt') + going
into a new diet based on : more uncooked food, no milk, no meat, and
fibers (whole rice,...), lot of vegetable quality oils, the result is
that my hernia did not increase and almost never hurts.
Now I have to perform the exercices to heal, I suppose ;-)
Regards,
Xavier
France, EU
2011/11/21 Tom Travis <tomt...@gmail.com>:
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wilson strausser
Wilson here. The recent posts have reminded me to put in my two cents worth of experience lately....a recent blood test showed dramatic results from my self-imposed herbal regimin of hawthorn, fenugreek, turmeric, vitamin B complex, bilberry, alpha lipoic acid, lutein, policosanol, cinnamon, ginger, folic acid, evening primrose oil, oregano oil, fish oil, borage oil, aspirin, and a few others I can't think of at the moment. I am not doing any exercises but am active around the house on projects requiring moderate stretching and lifting. My diet is very light in red meat and fats. I do allow myself eggs for breakfast four times per week but three times per week I have triple grain cereal with blueberries. My weight is stable around 190 and my stomach is mostly flat with good muscle tone for my 65 years.
Cholesterol 196 and triglycerides 190 is the best overall reading I have ever had without Lipitor which I stopped taking a few years ago due to the bad reviews on statins.
The incisional hernia is still evident with slight swelling aside the bellybutton but easily disappears with abdominal retraction. There appears to be no hole now in the wall but the area seems loosely meshed with the membrane that is apparently slowly re-establishing itself. I have been careful to use my fingers in pushing the weakened area back into place from time to time to avoid any possibility of intestinal strangulation; but that is not a big concern at this point. There is no lump which has disappeared now but the area has a large slight swelling which appears to be fluid but could be new flesh filling in. There has never been any pain.
It has been my philosophy that proper eating habits, moderate exercise and herbal supplements will eventually cure the weakness. So far so good.
My biggest concern at this point is not the hernia but my blood sugar of 139. A beneficial diet determination is ongoing.
Regards; Wilson
> Subject: Re: [herniasupport:2330] Is this group still active?
> From: xavier....@gmail.com
> To: hernia...@googlegroups.com
Dutty Boukman
Tom Travis
Thanks for your reply to my post. I believe that you are correct in
your approach to healing through concentrating on improving diet. I
have been vegetarian on and off though out the years ... at this time
I am non vegetarian, but have been considering going back to a
meatless diet. Thank you for your input, I will definitely be
considering the effects of my diet on my hernia and my overall health.
> 2011/11/21 Tom Travis <tomtra...@gmail.com>:
> xavier.boyr...@gmail.com
> Viadeo :http://www.viadeo.com/fr/profile/xavier.boyreau1
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Tom Travis
Sounds like you are doing some of the same supplementation that I do.
I have been taking a male tonic herbal tincture, alpha lipoic acid and
several of the others that you mentioned. My wife is an herbalist /
chiropractor. We grow as many medicinal herbs as we can and use herbal
remedies as our main source of medicine. Thanks for your input!
On Nov 21, 8:31 am, wilson strausser <will-l...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All;
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> Wilson here. The recent posts have reminded me to put in my two cents worth of experience lately....a recent blood test showed dramatic results from my self-imposed herbal regimin of hawthorn, fenugreek, turmeric, vitamin B complex, bilberry, alpha lipoic acid, lutein, policosanol, cinnamon, ginger, folic acid, evening primrose oil, oregano oil, fish oil, borage oil, aspirin, and a few others I can't think of at the moment. I am not doing any exercises but am active around the house on projects requiring moderate stretching and lifting. My diet is very light in red meat and fats. I do allow myself eggs for breakfast four times per week but three times per week I have triple grain cereal with blueberries. My weight is stable around 190 and my stomach is mostly flat with good muscle tone for my 65 years.
> Cholesterol 196 and triglycerides 190 is the best overall reading I have ever had without Lipitor which I stopped taking a few years ago due to the bad reviews on statins.
> The incisional hernia is still evident with slight swelling aside the bellybutton but easily disappears with abdominal retraction. There appears to be no hole now in the wall but the area seems loosely meshed with the membrane that is apparently slowly re-establishing itself. I have been careful to use my fingers in pushing the weakened area back into place from time to time to avoid any possibility of intestinal strangulation; but that is not a big concern at this point. There is no lump which has disappeared now but the area has a large slight swelling which appears to be fluid but could be new flesh filling in. There has never been any pain.
> It has been my philosophy that proper eating habits, moderate exercise and herbal supplements will eventually cure the weakness. So far so good.
> My biggest concern at this point is not the hernia but my blood sugar of 139. A beneficial diet determination is ongoing.
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> Regards; Wilson
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> > Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 10:05:12 +0100
> > Subject: Re: [herniasupport:2330] Is this group still active?
> > From: xavier.boyr...@gmail.com
> > 2011/11/21 Tom Travis <tomtra...@gmail.com>:
wilson strausser
Last week I was working on the roof and the ladder went out from under me. My reflexes have always been superior but I found myself holding onto the spouting without remembering how my hands got there so quickly! Apparently adrenaline provides strength when an emergency arises as I had plenty of time to assess the situation before my strength gave out (which never happened) and I was able to determine where to strategically place my feet on the bush below me so as to maintain the integrity of the branches while at the same time allowing my descent step by step until I reached the ground without having to jump! What a great experience with a happy ending!
The other neat thing is; the last snow we had moved several spouting clips out of position so I got the bright idea to pop-rivet them securely before starting the project at hand....placing snow guards on my new metal roof.....which is why I was up the ladder again.
It's been my experience on several occasions that spiritual attendance often saves me from grief; and my keen intuiton is a part of it; allowing my subconscious to plot an escape route in readiness before the fact. I should have been a goner often!
This is also part of how I have determined which herbs to take. I don't always take the same ones and sometimes take them at different times of the day; based often on intuition; but I have also found I must take them with food for best results.
Wilson
> Subject: [herniasupport:2334] Re: Is this group still active?
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wilson strausser
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Subject: Re: [herniasupport:2332] Is this group still active?
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:18:59 -0500
Xavier Boyreau
Thanks for this new exercise. Looks interesting. But I am just
wondering how it is possible that such an exercise performed once a
week could reach such a result !!
For how long do you practice it ?? (length of each session and
duration of the healing) ?
Xavier
2011/11/21 Dutty Boukman <duttyb...@gmail.com>:
Dutty Boukman
Okay, I spewed a little misinformation. I'm doing the knee to chest exercise
once a week now.( I'm also doing other exercises, like the wheel, a small
lawn mower wheel with handles on both sides. Check it out on YouTube.)
Originally I was doing the knee to chest every other day. I started with 10
reps and worked up to 40. The butt, btw, never comes off the floor. If you
raise your butt, you're working another set of muscles. I think it was
within a month the bulge disappeared, but that also depends on your
condition. But the hernia is gone. It ain't there. The knee to chest
exercise targets the lower abs, right where the bulge bulges.
Btw Men's Health had recommended working any muscle group every other day. I
started doing crunches daily, and one day I pulled a muscle. It hurt like
hell! Bromelain and rosemary help healing pulled muscles. The doseage is
your guess. Bromelain is a blood thinner. But again that depends on how many
crunches you do. I was doing chin ups, half of what I could do, that was 2,
but I did them anywhere from 5 to 9 times a day every day with no ill
effects. My strength increased dramatically! But it's best to stick with the
every other day routine. And don't over exert.
Hope this helps to heal your hernia!
Xavier Boyreau
I will start tonight the knee to chest exercice !
I let the group know the result before Xmas then :-)
Xavier
2011/11/22 Dutty Boukman <duttyb...@gmail.com>:
wilson strausser
I agree with alternating days forany exercise. When I ran track and cross country in high school we practiced every other day as well. The muscles need time to heal from the usage abuse. The healing time at rest allows them to rejuvenate.
I forgot to share my first Reiki experience last week! I had my first ever back massage and the practitioner decided to use a Reiki treatment in conjunction. I feel like it was of great benefit to the problem I had....stiff neck and shoulder muscles which were not responding to pain pills or heat. I had to come home and research what she did discovering I have probably been doing some form of Reiki all along without realizing it; given my determination of herbs of choice for each day is spiritually driven.
The stiffness is mostly gone now. I feel there was some sort of invader in my muscles which has been mostly removed by all I have been doing in combination. Here again I feel spiritual attendance for my benefit; and I believe the negative aspects resulting in pain and stiffness are meant to keep me focused on the positive spiritual attendance. Certainly positive attitude is a big part of healing, and as a given; attendance to positive energy forces negative energy to move away.
I must say at this point I am at my current spiritual position through acts of God. I feel constant communication and attendance. I never feel alone. I have decided this is due to my awareness of the spiritual world peaked by several life experiences which drew the Creator's life energies closer to me. I did not go to the Creator; the Creator came to me! I never asked for spiritual help but allowed spiritual help when it presented itself. I do remember communicating to the Creator at one point that I am in those creative hands and I accept that will for my future. I believe THAT attitude has brought me the blessings I continue to enjoy.
I do not wish to be misunderstood and must qualify these statements with my philosophy on life.....the Chosen people of scripture are described as nearly constant complainers. Many times what G-d chose for them was not what they wanted. Their complaining showed their malcontent with spiritual presence.
I have come to accept whatever is given to me in this life is not my choice but the will of the Creator. I recognize the Creator is superior in every way to my abilities; including whatever choices I may make. I consider free choice the greatest blessing we possess; but I am very frugal in exercising it as I know my thoughts are often not my own; originating through the Creator's will and given to me through various spiritual mediums. The mediums can be human or otherwise; but I am always open to suggestion and intuition. At that point my choices rest on what I determine appears the best avenue for my well-being.
Wilson
Dutty Boukman
Dutty Boukman
wilson strausser
Herein I feel lies danger within possibile manipulation of the spirit contrary to the subject's best interests. I therefore feel I personally should remove myself from such techniques; especially since my walk with the Creator is more intense than most can experience currently; given the physical challenges that have come my way and the resulting strenghtening bond with the Creator as a result; and I must add; not because of my will; but aligned with the Creator's will.
I did not ask the Creator for healing; but I did place myself in the Creator's hands stating whatever the Creator's will has in store for my future I accept without complaint; and the Creator has answered that spiritual positioning with the ongoing resulting blessings; as after studying how the chosen have complained so over the centuries about their varied conditions; I have chosen not to complain regardless of my circumstance; thus I feel that choice continues to richly reward me.
Having said all that; I feel prayer to the Creator is probably the most powerful method; however; if the subject is not aligned in the best spiritual position such requests of the Creator may not be welcomed; hence the different methods have come about. Incidentally; I do not pray as most; but rather am in more or less constant spiritual communication; much as one would walk along the road with a friend; regarding the bond at hand as beneficial; even mutually so. This method of spiritual attendance is suggested by Paul in scripture. In so doing I maintain a permanent respectful and praising posture toward the Creator; although waning and waxing as my psychy weakens or strengthens through the day; nevertheless; always in communication. This position cannot allow lonliness to attend my way for in such an awareness of the Spirit I am never alone!
As it is my personal desire to follow scripture to the best of my ability I prefer to go directly to the Creator with any requests I may have; and never complain about my circumstance. My requests are very few; but rather I am compelled again from my position of spiritual attendance to accept circumstances not only for myself but for others as well; always viewing the learning aspects of each challenge as it comes our way.
I have learned more about who I am through adversity than any other experience and have learned to embrace adversity for that purpose....learning!
As my hernia continues to improve; considering the swelling continues to minimize; although not gone completely; I am not pressed to consider any form of exercise or other methods; but rather allow time to continue manifesting the healing process as willed by the Creator.
After all; in this respect; should my hernia completely heal; my attendance to this site will minimize and any helpful suggestions I may have will not be shared; such as positive reinforcement across the board and rejection of negativity in any form.
Peace; Wilson
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Subject: Re: [herniasupport:2342] Is this group still active?
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 03:35:48 -0500
Tom Travis
found that I have been doing asanas that are beneficial, but also I
have been doing one that is listed as harmful ... matsyendrasana
(spinal twist). Perhaps this pose has been keeping my hernia from
healing. Needless to say, I have removed this asana from my routine.
I have a question regarding length of time to stay in certain
postures; I do Sarvangasana with wall support with AAA sound for 6
minutes every morning and I do Sarvangasana without wall support in
the evening usually about 4 minutes, followed by the plough pose for
about 2 minutes. Are there any guidelines for amount of time to
practice these asanas? I have read various opinions on this question.
Also, I do yoga crunches for about 4 minutes (2-2 minute sessions)
each day. Do you know if this practice could be detrimental?
Again, I want to thank you for this valuable information!
Tom
On Nov 20, 11:54 pm, Juba <juliancl...@aim.com> wrote:
> Thank you for posting, Tom. I agree with everything you said. I have
> compiled a list of yoga asanas (poses) that are said to be helpful or
> harmful for hernia healing, from various sources. Maybe you have seen
> the list already. The URL is:
> http://herniaalternatives.multiply.com/journal/item/6/Recommended_yog...
Maththew Wallace
ragnar berg says 80% alk and 20% acid and everyone seems to be saying that we should eat more on the alkaline side. well, what happens if you eat too much on the alk forming side. matt. |
Juba
does squeeze the groin, does yours?
I also feel that the plough (halasana) might squeeze the groin
somewhat. How does it feel? I think you can judge for yourself
according to how it feels whether you should keep doing it at this
time.
About the practice times, I think you could extend the time you do the
shoulderstand (sarvangasana), or do it more times. If you don't have
high blood pressure, that should be OK. Please also ask your yoga
teacher.
Juba/Julian