WSJT-X windows issues

[Don [N5SKT]]

I followed the Wiki for WSJT-X and got the recieve working. However, when I change bands, rig-ctl times out and WSJT-X loses connection to the tcp port. Also, and perhaps this is an issue where something is covered elsewhere, I am not seeing the instructions to configure SparkSDR. 

I am curious if there would be a way to set up virtual serial ports to the radio like Flexradio does. I know there is software out there that I have seen do that for 7300 radios. That might be something I will look into later. 

Thanks

Don - N5SKT

[Steve Haynal]

Hi Don,

I only use WSJT-X with Quisk. Quisk supports a virtual connection for rigctl which I use. Band changing and TX on/off work fine. See:

http://james.ahlstrom.name/quisk/docs.html#Hamlib

http://james.ahlstrom.name/hamlib.html

Note that this has nothing to do with the Hermes-Lite 2.0. All communication is between the SDR program and WSJT-X. Other software most likely supports similar virtual rigctl, I'm just not familiar with it.

SparkSDR can use components of WSJT-X without a virtual connection. The WSJT-X binaries must just be installed in a certain location, usually the standard location. During decode, SparkSDR calls the decoders directly so that no rigctl is required. This is how I use SparkSDR for skimming FT8 on multiple bands.

73,

Steve

kf7o

[Alexander Fritz]

Hi Don,

Have same setup and did have the same issue with WSJT loosing the connection to SparkSDR.

Update first to latest WSJT-x, this did the trick for me. 

I will send detailed setup instructions later and I am going to update the Hermes Wiki page as well. There is the WSJT-x configuration description missing. 

vy 73 de 

Alex, DK4FT 

[Don [N5SKT]]

Yeah, I downloaded the latest version before I posted it to see if it was the issue. Same problem.

73 de N5SKT

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[Don [N5SKT]]

Steve,

Yes this is not a hardware issue or a firmware issue (I think). I really can't tell when I need to update the gateware. I have 70 shipped from the factory but everything seems to be working.

Best Regards,

Don

[Alan Hopper]

Hi Don,

which version of spark are you using?

73 Alan M0NNB

On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 9:57:24 AM UTC+1, Don [N5SKT] wrote:

Steve,

Yes this is not a hardware issue or a firmware issue (I think). I really can't tell when I need to update the gateware. I have 70 shipped from the factory but everything seems to be working.

Best Regards,

Don

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Yeah, I downloaded the latest version before I posted it to see if it was the issue. Same problem.

73 de N5SKT

On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 1:40 AM Alexander Fritz <alexande...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Don,

Have same setup and did have the same issue with WSJT loosing the connection to SparkSDR.

Update first to latest WSJT-x, this did the trick for me. 

I will send detailed setup instructions later and I am going to update the Hermes Wiki page as well. There is the WSJT-x configuration description missing. 

vy 73 de 

Alex, DK4FT 

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[Alexander Fritz]

Hi Don,

on my side it is running with

Hermes FW 70 (as it came from stock)

SparkSDR 2.0.2.3

WSJT-x 2.2.2

I updated the Hermes wiki page with screenshot of WSJT settings: https://github.com/softerhardware/Hermes-Lite2/wiki/Operating-WSJT-X-with-background-3-band-skimmer

[Josh Logan]

Careful with that 192.168.1.77 IP address.  If wsjt and sparksdr are on the same host then localhost:51111 or 127.0.0.1:51111 is the generic solution.

73, Josh

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[Don [N5SKT]]

Thanks for all the replies. I am using Windows 10 and SparkSDR 2.0.2.3. . The virtual Audio Cables I believe are working as decode happens flawlessly. It is the cat control within WSJT-X that keeps failing. It works once and then looses connection to the rig even though decode is still happening. That happens anytime it needs to transmit or change frequencies. Shutting down WSJT-X and restarting allows one more cat control to be processed. And I use netstat to determine the listening address. Oddly, the Cat control port is not open to localhost but is to the ethernet address. I just installed WSJT-X 2.2 and I might need to reboot to get the correct rigctld running? What I really want to do is get Wspr running with transmit.

I am setting up a Linux machine to use with Hermes for fun (I like to compile code). So far, linhpsdr appears working I get no audio out of the laptop which is not surprising as I have not researched that. I would like to get WSJT-X working in the Linux box but so many projects going on.

73 de N5SKT   

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[Alan Hopper]

Hi Don,

I'll do some longer tests with wsjtx. If you want wpsr tx by far the easiest way is to use the built in wspr mode in Spark.

73 Alan M0NNB

On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 5:10:49 PM UTC+1, Don [N5SKT] wrote:

Thanks for all the replies. I am using Windows 10 and SparkSDR 2.0.2.3. . The virtual Audio Cables I believe are working as decode happens flawlessly. It is the cat control within WSJT-X that keeps failing. It works once and then looses connection to the rig even though decode is still happening. That happens anytime it needs to transmit or change frequencies. Shutting down WSJT-X and restarting allows one more cat control to be processed. And I use netstat to determine the listening address. Oddly, the Cat control port is not open to localhost but is to the ethernet address. I just installed WSJT-X 2.2 and I might need to reboot to get the correct rigctld running? What I really want to do is get Wspr running with transmit.

I am setting up a Linux machine to use with Hermes for fun (I like to compile code). So far, linhpsdr appears working I get no audio out of the laptop which is not surprising as I have not researched that. I would like to get WSJT-X working in the Linux box but so many projects going on.

73 de N5SKT   

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Careful with that 192.168.1.77 IP address.  If wsjt and sparksdr are on the same host then localhost:51111 or 127.0.0.1:51111 is the generic solution.

73, Josh

KD7HGL

On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 3:43 AM Alexander Fritz <alexande...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Don,

on my side it is running with

Hermes FW 70 (as it came from stock)

SparkSDR 2.0.2.3

WSJT-x 2.2.2

I updated the Hermes wiki page with screenshot of WSJT settings: https://github.com/softerhardware/Hermes-Lite2/wiki/Operating-WSJT-X-with-background-3-band-skimmer

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[Don [N5SKT]]

Trying Quisk now and the documentation is not clear to me. I assume for external WSJT-X that I am not using rigctld. And when I make the changes to Quisk and restart it, netstat does not show any open ports in the 4000 socket range. Anyone have a hint on this. WSJT-X does hear the radio over virtual audio. BTW, has anyone used FreeDV with Hermes light?

"To connect an external program to Quisk using Hamlib, configure your program to use "Hamlib NET rigctl" (rig 2). Then go to the Quisk "Remote" config screen for your radio and set "IP port for Hamlib" to 4532. This assumes you are not using the rigctld daemon program. If you are, set the Quisk port to 4575 and tell rigctld to control quisk on port 4575. Now changing the frequency on one program will change the other. Keying Quisk to key down (however you do that with your hardware) will set the external program to Transmit. Pressing the PTT control in the external program will also press the PTT button in Quisk."

Best Regards,

Don

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[James Ahlstrom]

Hello Don,

Set WSJT-X to Hamlib NET rigctl. Then go to the Quisk Config/radio/Remote screen. The "IP address for Hamlib rig 2" should be localhost. The "IP port for Hamlib" should be 4532. Both settings are on the drop down lists. Start Quisk first, then WSJT-X.

Jim

N2ADR

[Don [N5SKT]]

Yes, that is what I have done but when I start Quisk, a 'netstat -n' is not showing a listening port of 4532. Without that, WSJTX hamlib has nothing to talk to and reports a connection time out to the port.

Don - N5SKT

[Jaroslav Škarvada]

Don [N5SKT] napsal(a):

> Trying Quisk now and the documentation is not clear to me. I assume for
> external WSJT-X that I am not using rigctld. And when I make the changes
> to Quisk and restart it, netstat does not show any open ports in the
> 4000 socket range. Anyone have a hint on this. WSJT-X does hear the
> radio over virtual audio. BTW, has anyone used FreeDV with Hermes light?
>

Yes, FreeDV works fine with Quisk, I have been using mostly mode 700D,
now I am also experimenting with the mode 2020. I have worked mostly
SKEDs, because it isn't easy to find somebody on the air, FreeDV QSO
finder can help a bit [1]

73! Jaroslav, OK2JRQ

[1] http://qso.freedv.org/

> 127.0.0.1:51111 <http://127.0.0.1:51111> is the generic

> solution.
>
> 73, Josh
> KD7HGL
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 3:43 AM Alexander Fritz
> <alexande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Don,
>
> on my side it is running with
>
> Hermes FW 70 (as it came from stock)
> SparkSDR 2.0.2.3
> WSJT-x 2.2.2
>
> I updated the Hermes wiki page with screenshot of WSJT
> settings:
> https://github.com/softerhardware/Hermes-Lite2/wiki/Operating-WSJT-X-with-background-3-band-skimmer
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[Josh Logan]

What else is on this computer?  VPN software?  Anti virus?  Do you have any other computers to try it on?

Have you thought about running Linux from a USB drive to test a different OS?

73, Josh

KD7HGL

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 5:48 AM Don [N5SKT] <n5skt...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, that is what I have done but when I start Quisk, a 'netstat -n' is not showing a listening port of 4532. Without that, WSJTX hamlib has nothing to talk to and reports a connection time out to the port.

Don - N5SKT

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[Don [N5SKT]]

I have a complete Linux laptop and my base job is a Linux Admin. I have been running Solaris for some 30+ years. However, I can not stand sound under Linux. Every laptop seems to use a different set of drivers and shows up in a different way. I built LinHPSDR on Linux Mint and I had a hell of a time finding libasound and libsoundio. I did find them but they do not appear to be working. I am going to go to an external sound card. Basic answer is yes. Another rub is that when I fire up Quisk or something on the Windows machine and then turn the radio off and shutdown the laptop. And then start messing with the Linux desktop, LinHPSDR does not seem to be able to control the radio. Also, building WSJT-X is difficult at best on Mint so far. I prefer CentOS but many of the libraries don't exist as Sound for instance is not important to RedHat. BTW, I do have a Raspberry Pi working with an IC-7100 and it does work great after several of us basically did trial and error on the sound drivers. Anyway, I won't give up on Linux as I find I love building code no matter how hard it is. 

73 de N5SKT

Don

[Matthew]

Don,

Firstly, yes I have used FreeDV with linHPSDR and my HL2, but also suffer from the problem of lack of QSOs. Thankfully here in the UK there is a daily net on 80m in the afternoon and the RSGB news is broadcast on FreeDV on Sundays so plenty of opportunity for testing. But I would like to test it some more on marginal signals. With linHPSDR and selecting PulseAudio as your audio option, pretty much any digital mode can interface nicely. The beauty of PulseAudio is that you can setup say JS8CALL on 1 RX and listen to SSB/AM/CW etc on a different receiver. I recommend to people to select the PulseAudio rather the soundio option in linHPSDR (if you want to use PulseAudio).

I have contributed some code to linHPSDR (and continue to add code in my fork linked on the wiki) and try to keep a number of virtual machines for testing. I have never encountered problems with libsoundio during install - what version of Mint are you using? I would like to setup a VM and try to replicate this.

You mention "LinHPSDR does not seem to be able to control the radio", could you expand on this a bit, if it is a bug I would like to fix it. I wonder if perhaps this is related to CAT control? If so, can you confirm you have rigctld running with "rigctld -m 240 -r localhost:19090"? If it is WSJT-X related, please see here. As mentioned in the link, there have been some hamlib changes. Select serial port, but instead of /dev/tty... etc. paste "127.0.0.1:19090". I recently hit this when running JS8CALL but this fixed it.

73 Matthew M5EVT.

[Don [N5SKT]]

Matthew,

The issue I described does not seem to me to be a LinHPSDR issue. Let me describe it a bit. If I am using Quisk on Windows and turn the radio off. Then jump over to my windows laptop. Hermes does seem to be taking the commands from LinHPSDR. It appears to be stuck with the other laptop. LinHPSDR seems to see the Hermes fine but does not seem to be able to control it. A power cycle of the HL2 seems to do the trick. I am beginning to believe my best option, which I am happy with, will be to use the Linux laptop and so far, my issues are with build the latest WSJT-X. 

Best Regards,

Don 

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[Alan Hopper]

Hi Don,

when software can discover the HL2 and not control it this generally indicates a network issue, the discovery communication uses broadcast which can sometimes get through when the rest of the communication can't. I swich computers a lot at the moment when tesing window/linux/mac/rpi versions of spark and don't have a problem. Very rarely I have to power the HL2 down and up but I don't think this is related to switching computers. I've never tried building wsjtx on mint, I just install it from the wsjtx site. My current linux test box which I recently put together simply has Mint 20, wsjtx from the wsjtx site , Audacity and SparkSDR and is behaving well.

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[Alan Hopper]

Hi Don,

how long do you have to wait for cat to stop working? I just tested here for a few hours and it still works with wsjtx 2.2.2. If you turn on extended logging in spark it records the cat commands and responses.

73 Alan M0NNB

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Thanks for all the replies. I am using Windows 10 and SparkSDR 2.0.2.3. . The virtual Audio Cables I believe are working as decode happens flawlessly. It is the cat control within WSJT-X that keeps failing. It works once and then looses connection to the rig even though decode is still happening. That happens anytime it needs to transmit or change frequencies. Shutting down WSJT-X and restarting allows one more cat control to be processed. And I use netstat to determine the listening address. Oddly, the Cat control port is not open to localhost but is to the ethernet address. I just installed WSJT-X 2.2 and I might need to reboot to get the correct rigctld running? What I really want to do is get Wspr running with transmit.

I am setting up a Linux machine to use with Hermes for fun (I like to compile code). So far, linhpsdr appears working I get no audio out of the laptop which is not surprising as I have not researched that. I would like to get WSJT-X working in the Linux box but so many projects going on.

73 de N5SKT   

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Careful with that 192.168.1.77 IP address.  If wsjt and sparksdr are on the same host then localhost:51111 or 127.0.0.1:51111 is the generic solution.

73, Josh

KD7HGL

On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 3:43 AM Alexander Fritz <alexande...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Don,

on my side it is running with

Hermes FW 70 (as it came from stock)

SparkSDR 2.0.2.3

WSJT-x 2.2.2

I updated the Hermes wiki page with screenshot of WSJT settings: https://github.com/softerhardware/Hermes-Lite2/wiki/Operating-WSJT-X-with-background-3-band-skimmer

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[Don [N5SKT]]

Thanks Alan. It could be a network issue. Now when I feel like LinHPSDR connects, I see that it is set to the same band and mode that Quisk was in when it exited but I get no waterfall or graph in the window. I keep thinking there is another button to power on the radio but I don't see it. I am fairly certain if that was working FT8 would be a breeze afterwards. 

Quisk is now communicating with WSJT-X in all ways except transmit. I suspect an issue with the virtual Audio cable as on Quisks status, I see life on the cable towards WSJT-X but no life on the cable coming back.Still making baby steps so I appreciate all the advice I have gotten here. BTW, all I seemed to do differently is carefully start them up in the right order.

73 de N5SKT

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[Don [N5SKT]]

Spark SDR is working for me now at least for Wspr. No changes on my side but I am fairly certain it is because I have no way of monitoring it. Very odd to me is that my Flexradio which has an antenna a 30 feet away and on around the corner of the house, can not pick up transmissions from the HL2 until I bump it to using the MX-P50M and then I am seeing the FT8 transmissions. But at least I now know it is transmitting.

Quisk with WSJT-X works for a while and then Quisk stops receiving signal from the radio. To solve this, I use SDR-Console to start and stop the radio. Then Quisk will work again for a while. Spark SDR has not had this issue.

Anyway, time for a better antenna.

[Alan Hopper]

Hi Don,

that sounds like progress, have you enabled the pa in spark and selected one of the N2ADR filter options? The fwd Power indicator in Spark should tell you if you are really transmitting.

73 Alan M0NNB

[Don [N5SKT]]

Alan,

PA Enabled and N2ADR-HPF-LPF. The radio is definitely indicating transmit. 

Best Regards,

Don

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[Alan Hopper]

Hi Don,

that sounds good, I've taken to asking the obvious question just in case, so sorry for that.  It takes me back to listening to my HL1 with a Flex 1500 but I had to do that with no antenna to get a clean result.

73 Alan M0NNB

On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 10:00:04 PM UTC+1, Don [N5SKT] wrote:

Alan,

PA Enabled and N2ADR-HPF-LPF. The radio is definitely indicating transmit. 

Best Regards,

Don

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Hi Don,

that sounds like progress, have you enabled the pa in spark and selected one of the N2ADR filter options? The fwd Power indicator in Spark should tell you if you are really transmitting.

73 Alan M0NNB

On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 4:54:09 PM UTC+1, Don [N5SKT] wrote:

Spark SDR is working for me now at least for Wspr. No changes on my side but I am fairly certain it is because I have no way of monitoring it. Very odd to me is that my Flexradio which has an antenna a 30 feet away and on around the corner of the house, can not pick up transmissions from the HL2 until I bump it to using the MX-P50M and then I am seeing the FT8 transmissions. But at least I now know it is transmitting.

Quisk with WSJT-X works for a while and then Quisk stops receiving signal from the radio. To solve this, I use SDR-Console to start and stop the radio. Then Quisk will work again for a while. Spark SDR has not had this issue.

Anyway, time for a better antenna.

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[Steve Haynal]

Hi Don,

Do you have access to an oscilloscope and dummy load? Can you see any signal across the dummy load during TX when connected to the "ANT" connector? If you disable the PA, do you then see any signal across the dummy load during TX when connected to the "RF1" connector?

How are you keying SparkSDR for transmit?

73,

Steve

kf7o

[Don [N5SKT]]

Steve,

I do not have an oscilloscope. A dummy load yes. I have on order an SWR/Wattmeter that should arrive soon and plan to have that on the system. What I have done is monitor the output from WSJT-X FT8 on my Flexradio and with my Amp on (PX-50m) I do see the Hermes transmition in the decode. I think the level on the Hermes is low
because I have not figured out the "drive" setting.

73 de N5SKT
Don