New powerful SBC with gigabit ethernet
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Amogh Desai
Dec 9, 2015, 11:54:09 AM12/9/15
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Is this a good option to make HL portable?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pine64/pine-a64-first-15-64-bit-single-board-super-comput
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Steve Haynal
Dec 10, 2015, 1:58:14 AM12/10/15
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Hi Amogh,
Thanks for the link. That does look like an interesting SBC. Do you know what computing power it has in GFLOPs? I've been thinking about how much is needed to move the final polyphase FIR filter in the Hermes-Lite to a SBC. Back of the envelope calculations say we need 2.5 GFLOPs per receiver. The Raspberry Pi ARM only does about 40 MFLOPs but the GPU on the Raspberry Pi will do 24 GFLOPs of general compute. Also, the GPU on the Raspberry Pi was opened up and people are writing code for it like this FFT. Plus, the pi zero is only $5.
I think what would be interesting in a SBC is two high speed interfaces: one usable for the SDR ADC/DAC and another for the PC (gigabit ethernet or USB 3.0). Open GPGPU with enough horse power to do interesting DSP. And low cost.
73,
Steve
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Amogh Desai
Dec 10, 2015, 6:37:43 AM12/10/15
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Hi Steve,
No numbers are available yet, however PINE64's official website FAQ says:
The Pine A64 CPU is quad-core ARM A-53 64-bit processor and runs at 1.2GHz. The CPU’s MIPS benchmarks around 11,040 which makes it capabilities roughly equivalent to the Sony PS3’s level of performance or a netbook running AMD E-240 CPU at 1.5GHz.
and as per this Wiki:
PlayStation 3's Cell CPU achieves a theoretical maximum of 23.04 GFLOPS in single precision floating point operations and up to 10 GFLOPS double precisionusing iterative refinement for the solution of linear equations
Also for GPU the official website says:
Both BASIC and PLUS model uses the Allwinner A64 SoC. The SoC contains a quad-core ARM Cortex A53 64-bit CPU with floating point, running at 1.2Ghz, and a dual-core MALI-400 MP2 GPU running at 500MHz. The GPU has a high performance 3D core accessed using the supplied OpenGL ES2.0 and OpenVG libraries.
The Pine A64 GPU is dual-core MALI-400 MP2 and runs at 500MHz, capable of 1.1 Gpixel/s throughput. Graphics capabilities are slightly higher than the original Xbox’s level of performance. The GPU provides OpenGL ES 2.0, hardware-accelerated OpenVG, 4Kx2Kp30 H.265 decode, and 1080p60 H.264 high-profile encode and decode.
And as per this the Mali-400 MP2 @ 500MHZ does 9 GFLOPS.
Some more info:
Depending on the model, all the Pine A64 has 46 dedicated GPIO pins, three UART, two i2c bus, two SPI bus, i2s audio, SPDIF out, IR receiver, Speaker out, 3v3, 5v, and ground. In the “PLUS” model, there are additional three ports: CSI-Camera, Touch Control, and DSI-LCD Panel.
Amogh
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Sid Boyce
Dec 10, 2015, 7:51:44 AM12/10/15
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I had been looking at this over the last few days.
The A64 only has 100Mbit Ethernet -- scheduled shipping date of March 2016.
The Parallella-16 overran the schedule by almost a year. By then the
dual-core ARM A9 was dated.
The A64+ Ethernet is 1GBit but I don't see anywhere in Kickstarter to
fund it.
I like 64-bit so I may go for the A64 now and A64+ when available for
order.
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The A64 only has 100Mbit Ethernet -- scheduled shipping date of March 2016.
The Parallella-16 overran the schedule by almost a year. By then the
dual-core ARM A9 was dated.
The A64+ Ethernet is 1GBit but I don't see anywhere in Kickstarter to
fund it.
I like 64-bit so I may go for the A64 now and A64+ when available for
order.
73 ... Sid.
Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
Amogh Desai
Dec 10, 2015, 7:57:36 AM12/10/15
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Hi Sid,
All the $19 pledges are with:
You will get the PINE64+ unit, which comes with the 1.2Ghz board and 1GB SDRAM.
The updated unit has a gigabit Ethernet port, 3.5MM Audio/Mic jack, 4K HDMI, and 2 USB ports. PINE A64+ includes touchpanel, camera, and LCD Port accessibility.
(No wifi/bluetooth - we will offer a list of compatible wifi/bluetooth modules you can use to connect later)
If you are interested quickly pledge for the March'16 delivery option as they are getting over fast.
I missed the Feb 16 delivery option by few minutes already.
Regards,
Amogh
John Williams
Dec 10, 2015, 8:31:24 AM12/10/15
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I signed up... I have been playing with the Raspberry Pi 2 and it
just needs more power. Can't get it to run Quisk and FLDigi
together. This new SBC looks pretty good.
John - W9JSW
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Sid Boyce
Dec 10, 2015, 9:12:07 AM12/10/15
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Except for the Mali-400 MP2 which is a lower spec than the Mali-450 MP2
-- 4-cores on the ODROID-U3/-C1.
I only use the ODROID-U3 to run Hermes-Lite for SSB/CW in quisk and
openHPSDRJ and fldigi standalone on top of ghpsdr3-alex.
ODROID-U3 + hpsdr-server + dspserver + flrig/fldigi
This is fldigi from http://ad0es.net/flprogs/ which supports openHPSDR
via flrig.
73 ... Sid.
On 10/12/15 13:31, John Williams wrote:
> I signed up... I have been playing with the Raspberry Pi 2 and it just
> needs more power. Can't get it to run Quisk and FLDigi together. This
> new SBC looks pretty good.
>
> John - W9JSW
>
> On 12/10/2015 6:57 AM, Amogh Desai wrote:
>> Hi Sid,
>>
>> All the $19 pledges are with:
>>
>> You will get the PINE64+ unit, which comes with the 1.2Ghz board
>> and 1GB SDRAM.
>>
>> The updated unit has a *gigabit Ethernet port*, 3.5MM Audio/Mic
>> <mailto:hermes-lite...@googlegroups.com>.
-- 4-cores on the ODROID-U3/-C1.
I only use the ODROID-U3 to run Hermes-Lite for SSB/CW in quisk and
openHPSDRJ and fldigi standalone on top of ghpsdr3-alex.
ODROID-U3 + hpsdr-server + dspserver + flrig/fldigi
This is fldigi from http://ad0es.net/flprogs/ which supports openHPSDR
via flrig.
73 ... Sid.
On 10/12/15 13:31, John Williams wrote:
> I signed up... I have been playing with the Raspberry Pi 2 and it just
> needs more power. Can't get it to run Quisk and FLDigi together. This
> new SBC looks pretty good.
>
> John - W9JSW
>
> On 12/10/2015 6:57 AM, Amogh Desai wrote:
>> Hi Sid,
>>
>> All the $19 pledges are with:
>>
>> You will get the PINE64+ unit, which comes with the 1.2Ghz board
>> and 1GB SDRAM.
>>
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John Williams
Dec 10, 2015, 10:05:38 AM12/10/15
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I will give that a try, Sid. thx for the reminder.
Kaj Wiik
Dec 10, 2015, 3:34:48 PM12/10/15
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Hi!
There'll be also this OSHW board from Olimex with 1 Gbit/s ethernet:
https://olimex.wordpress.com/2015/11/20/a64-olinuxino-update-2/
Kaj OH6EH
There'll be also this OSHW board from Olimex with 1 Gbit/s ethernet:
https://olimex.wordpress.com/2015/11/20/a64-olinuxino-update-2/
Kaj OH6EH
Glenn P
Dec 10, 2015, 4:36:35 PM12/10/15
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Does this imply the audio jack supports only audio out and Mic in must use USB somehow ?
FAQ's
What about standard audio in/out?
The Pine A64 audio 3.5mm mini-jack supplies amplified audio output to your headphone; you can also use as audio line out. You can add USB microphone support devices, such as webcam for audio in, or using the I2S interface on the “euler” bus connector for additional audio I/O function. The jack is a 3.5mm dual Microphone / Audio jack.
FAQ's
What about standard audio in/out?
The Pine A64 audio 3.5mm mini-jack supplies amplified audio output to your headphone; you can also use as audio line out. You can add USB microphone support devices, such as webcam for audio in, or using the I2S interface on the “euler” bus connector for additional audio I/O function. The jack is a 3.5mm dual Microphone / Audio jack.
Sid Boyce
Dec 10, 2015, 6:13:26 PM12/10/15
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I should imagine it is like this.
The attachment shows a picture of a plug end of a splitter cable I use
on the ODROID-U3. At the other end are 2 3.5mm sockets, one for Mic and
one for headphones.
73 ... Sid.
On 10/12/15 21:36, Glenn P wrote:
> Does this imply the audio jack supports only audio out and Mic in must
> use USB somehow ?
>
> FAQ's
> What about standard audio in/out?
> The Pine A64 audio 3.5mm mini-jack supplies amplified audio output to
> your headphone; you can also use as audio line out. You can add USB
> microphone support devices, such as webcam for audio in, or using the
> I2S interface on the “euler†bus connector for additional audio
The attachment shows a picture of a plug end of a splitter cable I use
on the ODROID-U3. At the other end are 2 3.5mm sockets, one for Mic and
one for headphones.
73 ... Sid.
On 10/12/15 21:36, Glenn P wrote:
> Does this imply the audio jack supports only audio out and Mic in must
> use USB somehow ?
>
> FAQ's
> What about standard audio in/out?
> The Pine A64 audio 3.5mm mini-jack supplies amplified audio output to
> your headphone; you can also use as audio line out. You can add USB
> microphone support devices, such as webcam for audio in, or using the
> I/O function. The jack is a 3.5mm dual Microphone / Audio jack.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 10, 2015 at 3:54:09 AM UTC+11, Amogh Desai wrote:
>
> Is this a good option to make HL portable?
>
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pine64/pine-a64-first-15-64-bit-single-board-super-comput
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 10, 2015 at 3:54:09 AM UTC+11, Amogh Desai wrote:
>
> Is this a good option to make HL portable?
>
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pine64/pine-a64-first-15-64-bit-single-board-super-comput
> <https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pine64/pine-a64-first-15-64-bit-single-board-super-comput>
>
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Amogh Desai
Dec 10, 2015, 11:19:34 PM12/10/15
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Yes.
This is the same as 3.5mm jack on our mobile phones these days. Mic and headphone connection in the same jack. Most mobile phone headphones will work with this.
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Steve Haynal
Feb 7, 2016, 9:59:44 PM2/7/16
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Hi Amogh,
Thanks for sharing. The rtl8211 is an interesting alternative for the PHY. It is about a $1 less than the KSZ9031RN. It has the switching regulator built-in, but still requires external inductors/capacitors. I can only find it for sale at future electronics. (I prefer something with many distributors.) I have already qualified the ksz9021 with the CVA9, and can't afford the time qualifying and updating the firmware to work with this.
How did your Hermes-Lite build turn out?
73,
Steve
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