FlexControl (K6TD) with HL2

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Marcio Rodrigo Santos

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Dec 20, 2024, 4:05:12 PM12/20/24
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Hi everyone, this is Marcio, PY5PR. I just got my HL2 and I'm new to this group.

Since I also have a Flex 6400 with "FlexControl by K6TD", I wanted to know if it would be possible to use this control with the HL2 as well.

Has anyone tried this?

Cheers!

Marcio

DL1YCF

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Dec 21, 2024, 7:47:00 AM12/21/24
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This is a misconception. Flexcontrol or whatever controller you use
controls the host program (e.g. Thetis, piHPSR, Quick, SparkSDR and all the other
options) and not the HL2.

So the question is whether your controller can control your host program, and this
is not related to HL2 but to the host program and must be ask the relevant
„guru group“.
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Gary Abercrombie

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:29:11 AM12/21/24
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Marco,

I just looked at OpenHPSDR-Thetis and pihpsdr source code and it doesn't look like either currently have support for the FlexControl.

I just added DJ2GO2 MIDI console support to my CQSDR application which also supports Hermes.

Gary, N8CQ


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DL1YCF

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Dec 21, 2024, 2:38:42 PM12/21/24
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If the FlexControl acts as a MIDI device then piHPSDR can make juice of it.

> Am 21.12.2024 um 17:29 schrieb Gary Abercrombie <gab...@gmail.com>:
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> Marco,
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> I just looked at OpenHPSDR-Thetis and pihpsdr source code and it doesn't look like either currently have support for the FlexControl.
>
> I just added DJ2GO2 MIDI console support to my CQSDR application which also supports Hermes.
>
> Gary, N8CQ
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> Subject: FlexControl (K6TD) with HL2
> Hi everyone, this is Marcio, PY5PR. I just got my HL2 and I'm new to this group.
>
> Since I also have a Flex 6400 with "FlexControl by K6TD", I wanted to know if it would be possible to use this control with the HL2 as well.
>
> Has anyone tried this?
>
> Cheers!
>
> Marcio
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Richard Saue (LB2EG)

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Dec 21, 2024, 3:27:51 PM12/21/24
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To the original poster: If you want Flexcontrol to play with Thetis, you must install and configure the DDUTIL utility program ( https://k5fr.com/DDUtilV3wiki/index.php?title=Download) and a pair of virtual comports e.g. from the Com0Com package ( https://com0com.sourceforge.net/ ).

To DL1YCF: I do not think Flexcontrol acts as a midi device, but I am no programmer.  Search on github reveals code that shows the protocol, e.g. https://github.com/M0LTE/flexcontrol.net

I would be very happy if you implemented support for Flexcontrol in Pihpsdr, it is a great tool. 

73 de LB2EG Richard

DL1YCF

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Dec 21, 2024, 3:48:06 PM12/21/24
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I do not know Flexcontrol and the link you showed me did not „talk“ to me,
but I know other devices that appear to the computer as a HID device
(logically as a mouse or computer),
and this is simply a design flaw since the events do not make it through
to the target program if it is not in the focus.

USB-MIDI is a well-proven standard and the ideal protocol for such
controllers to be generally useful, so if FlexControl has decided not
to be generally useful what can should one do?
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Richard Saue (LB2EG)

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Dec 21, 2024, 4:00:40 PM12/21/24
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Hi Christoph,
I have no idea regarding the design of the FlexControl. I bought mine many years ago when I had a Flex-5000, and it has followed me to Flex-6300 with SmartSDR and to ANAN and HL2 using Thetis + DDUTIL To my use it is very handy controlling the VFO and more. 

I found more but minimalistic info on the protocol at Github https://gist.github.com/M0LTE/baefef79a06f74fecf0745de00537b38 

73 de LB2EG Richard

Gary Abercrombie

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Dec 21, 2024, 5:51:40 PM12/21/24
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Looks like flexcontrol appears as a simple serial port interface over USB and not a midi controller like behringer cmd-pl1 with a lot of buttons

Marcio Rodrigo Santos

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Dec 21, 2024, 8:49:10 PM12/21/24
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Hi, Christoph.

Since you decided to philosophize about my question, I will reformulate it according to your model:

Has anyone managed to successfully connect FlexControl with Thetis, or with other software compatible with HL2?

Marcio

Marcio Rodrigo Santos

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Dec 21, 2024, 8:57:51 PM12/21/24
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Hi Gary,

Thanks for your feedback. Looking at my device manager, it appears as a USB-COM adapter:

FlexControl.png

Cheers!

Marcio Rodrigo Santos

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Dec 21, 2024, 9:02:24 PM12/21/24
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It appears in my Device Manager as a USB-COM Port. 
FlexControl2.png

Marcio Rodrigo Santos

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Dec 21, 2024, 9:03:58 PM12/21/24
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Hi Richard,

Your answer was very useful showing a way to follow.

Thank's!

Cheers,

Marcio

Marcio Rodrigo Santos

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Dec 21, 2024, 9:05:21 PM12/21/24
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Exactly!

tmoto...@gmail.com

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Dec 21, 2024, 9:59:21 PM12/21/24
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Another option for Thetis would be the XP-PEN ACK05

It’s a keystroke replicator with a jog wheel.

You have full access to the Keyboard control page in Thetis

 

It’s a wireless shortcut remote that I use the jog wheel for freq / vfo with resolution choice, volume up/down/mute, band change and PTT – really love the wireless PTT with the wireless headset.

 

You can had layers via the push button in the jog wheel. Another layer for the lesser used functions – mode, rit, filter…lots of flexibility.

 

Just another choice in the midi / usb / key replicator category. Street price is like $50.

 

Your mileage may vary….

 

73’s

 

Tom – K2TC

 

 

https://www.xp-pen.com/product/ack05-wireless-shortcut-remote.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=US_Pmax_Conv_drawing_pad_0129&utm_adgroup=&utm_campaignid=20980094375&utm_adgroupid=&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA65m7BhAwEiwAAgu4JJ_irOgdOnCJJe9Yq9UNyngGLXCBRaXrCu8ezqaEvzeyYX3w8tcAlBoCh6gQAvD_BwE

 

 

 

 

 

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