[Hx] Farewell!

[Gib Henry Gib@GibHenry.com]

Thank you for all the suggestions regarding replacements for Helix-L.  I’ve looked into some of them, and I’ve given a lot of thought to starting over.  Sadly, I ultimately decided not to do that.

So Thursday will be the last day for posting to the list; on Friday I will begin changing over my email system.  It’s been a real roller coaster since 1994, and I will certainly miss hearing from all of you, and the sense of community, but I feel happy that Helix, like the Phoenix, is rising again.  Cheers,

---

Gib Henry
List Administrator, Helix-L Discussion List
helix-l...@gibhenry.com

NOTE: The Helix-L mailing list is an independent discussion group composed of both professional and non-professional users of Helix, the icon-driven relational database system for Macintosh, in continuous development since 1984.  Helix-L is independent of Big Giant Donut, Inc., developers of Helix.  While BGD personnel may from time to time participate in discussions, postings from BGD personnel should be considered ex-officio; any formal requests for support should be directed to Big Giant Donut. The list administrator has no connection with Big Giant Donut, Inc.

[Jeff Green jeffshelix@gmail.com]

Yes, it has been a long, long bumpy ride  . . . . but we still our collection every day . . . 

thanks to all who have supported Gib over the years.

 jeff Green

Peak Performers

[Giorgio Becevel becevel@me.com]

Buona Fortuna e grazie per il tuo supporto 

Good Luck and thank you for your support

Giorgio Becevel

Firenze-I

[John Shannon Broderick jspb@powersrvcs.com]

Many Happy returns Gib I will miss the list and you're quiet and helpful presences in my life. 

Take Care

Shannon

J. Shannon Broderick

PSI

182 Plains Rd

Litchfield, ME 04350

207-242-6220

On Feb 27, 2024, at 6:14 PM, Giorgio

[Richard (Rick) Landsman vtvita@comcast.net]

Dear Gib,

I greatly appreciate all that you've done us.

Best wishes to you.

Cheers back at you.

Rick Landsman

South Burlington VT

On Feb 27, 2024, Gib Henry wrote

[Hel...@gibhenry.com]

Gib

How can I thank you for your work? This is a late thought - how about making it a subscription service??? $10/mo?

Tim Bilash MD
VoteDrTim.com

________________________________________________

[Charles Dyas cdyas@deltapower.co.uk]

Thanks Gib for all you have done over the years. I am sure someone will pick up a list to carry on your good work

All the best. Charles

On 27 Feb 2024, at 21:2729, Gib Henry G...@GibHenry.com <Hel...@gibhenry.com> wrote:

Thank you for all the suggestions regarding replacements for Helix-L.  I’ve looked into some of them, and I’ve given a lot of thought to starting over.  Sadly, I ultimately decided not to do that.

So Thursday will be the last day for posting to the list; on Friday I will begin changing over my email system.  It’s been a real roller coaster since 1994, and I will certainly miss hearing from all of you, and the sense of community, but I feel happy that Helix, like the Phoenix, is rising again.  Cheers,

---

Gib Henry
List Administrator, Helix-L Discussion List
helix-l...@gibhenry.com

[James Mowery mjim@aol.com]

It would be worth it. 

Jim Mowery

334-790-2289

On Feb 27, 2024, at 21:33, Hel...@gibhenry.com wrote:



Gib

How can I thank you for your work? This is a late thought - how about making it a subscription service??? $10/mo?

Tim Bilash MD
VoteDrTim.com

________________________________________________

On 2/27/24 5:57 PM, Richard (Rick) Landsman vtv...@comcast.net wrote:

Dear Gib,

I greatly appreciate all that you've done us.

Best wishes to you.

Cheers back at you.

Rick Landsman

South Burlington VT

On Feb 27, 2024, Gib Henry wrote

So Thursday will be the last day for posting to the list; on Friday I will begin changing over my email system.  It’s been a real roller coaster since 1994, and I will certainly miss hearing from all of you, and the sense of community, but I feel happy that Helix, like the Phoenix, is rising again.  Cheers,

[Ian Budd ian.budd@icbaudio.com]

I have learned so much from this group and have found it to be invaluable to my management of Helix. Without Gib having made the effort to create it in the first place, I would have received none of this benefit.

I suspect there will be a huge amount of value for us to be able to communicate going forward with this transition to Donut, so I have taken the initiative to create a temporary (or maybe permanent) group on groups.io while you can still see postings here on Gib’s group.

I have called it Helix-Donut-users and it is in the process of being approved. It should be valid within 24 hours.

If you wish to continue being able to communicate, you can sign up for it as soon as it has been approved at:

https://groups.io/g/Helix-Donut-users

or it should be publicly visible at groups.io

If enough people sign up and want to make it permanent, then it can be so.  If one is created on the Donut site that everyone wants to migrate to, then that will be fine too.  I’m also happy to assign the administration of this to anyone who would like to take it on.

Regards,

Ian Budd

Ian Budd

ICB Audio and Video

1738 Tennessee Avenue

Cincinnati, OH 45229

513-242-7400

ian....@icbaudio.com

Design-Sales-Installation-Service

Sound-Video-AV-Control-Lighting-Energy

[Ian Budd ian.budd@icbaudio.com]

Sorry, I thought the whole chain was as below and didn’t see the overnight email offer to do a list until after I’d done this.  If this muddies the waters, then someone else go ahead and do it or I’ll assign it.  Otherwise, it's done.

Ian

[James Mowery jmowery@me.com]

Fantastic.

Gib—hope you will join, too.

Gib you have given so much to all of us.

And we will always remember that.

[Steve Stoddart s.stoddart@rogcowines.com]

This is perfect. I just successfully signed up.

Steve

On Feb 28, 2024, at 10:00 AM, Ian Budd ian....@icbaudio.com <Hel...@gibhenry.com> wrote:

Sorry, I thought the whole chain was as below and didn’t see the overnight email offer to do a list until after I’d done this.  If this muddies the waters, then someone else go ahead and do it or I’ll assign it.  Otherwise, it's done.

Ian

[James Mowery mjim@aol.com]

I signed up, but have yet to be approved.

Suppose it takes a bit.

Seems pretty strait forward.

[robert keigher robertkeigher@yahoo.com]

👍

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

[Dana Barnard d.barnard@barson.group]

Thanks to all the great people that have participated on this list.   I have turned to it so many times to get unstuck.

Thank you, Ian for setting up a new list.

Thank you, Gib for this huge effort over the years.

All Hail Gib!

Dana

Gib Henry G...@GibHenry.com

February 27, 2024 at 2:27 PM

Thank you for all the suggestions regarding replacements for Helix-L.  I’ve looked into some of them, and I’ve given a lot of thought to starting over.  Sadly, I ultimately decided not to do that.

So Thursday will be the last day for posting to the list; on Friday I will begin changing over my email system.  It’s been a real roller coaster since 1994, and I will certainly miss hearing from all of you, and the sense of community, but I feel happy that Helix, like the Phoenix, is rising again.  Cheers,

---

Gib Henry
List Administrator, Helix-L Discussion List
helix-l...@gibhenry.com

--






Dana E. Barnard
CEO
Barson Corporation
www.barson.group
d.ba...@barson.group
505-603-5306

[robert keigher robertkeigher@yahoo.com]

I thank you as well. Hopefully this will keep going in some fashion with a new group. 

Before this list goes away, I really want to try the new server, but would like to hear from anyone who has upgraded and how that worked. 

Thanks

Robert  

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

[Ian Budd ian.budd@icbaudio.com]

Behind the scenes we have agreed that the new group is going to work well for our purposes.

We already have 18 members who have transitioned and new sign ups are coming in every few minutes.

I encourage everyone to transition and especially those of you who have provided such great insight over the years due to your vast expertise in these areas. I know very little and would really appreciate your continued involvement.

These are going to be interesting (and maybe challenging) times and it will be important for us to share our experiences.

Regards,

Ian

Here again is where you will go to sign up:

https://groups.io/g/Helix-Donut-users

[Elton Darby elton.darby@gmail.com]

Gib,

All has been very much appreciated.  All the best; Elton

-------------------

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 27, 2024, at 3:27 PM, Gib Henry G...@GibHenry.com <Hel...@gibhenry.com> wrote:

Thank you for all the suggestions regarding replacements for Helix-L.  I’ve looked into some of them, and I’ve given a lot of thought to starting over.  Sadly, I ultimately decided not to do that.

So Thursday will be the last day for posting to the list; on Friday I will begin changing over my email system.  It’s been a real roller coaster since 1994, and I will certainly miss hearing from all of you, and the sense of community, but I feel happy that Helix, like the Phoenix, is rising again.  Cheers,

---

Gib Henry
List Administrator, Helix-L Discussion List
helix-l...@gibhenry.com

[ac7hh ccm@ac7hh.com]

Dear Gib,

Thank you for all the years you maintained the list!

Wish you all the best!

Cajetan

[William R Bayne ercoguru@txercoupemuseum.org]

Me too.  I have apparently been signed up, but my membership hasn’t yet been approved.

Best!

WRB

— 

On Feb 28, 2024, at 9:22 AM, Steve Stoddart s.sto...@rogcowines.com <Hel...@gibhenry.com> wrote:

This is perfect. I just successfully signed up.

Steve

On Feb 28, 2024, at 10:00 AM, Ian Budd ian....@icbaudio.com <Hel...@gibhenry.com> wrote:

Sorry, I thought the whole chain was as below and didn’t see the overnight email offer to do a list until after I’d done this.  If this muddies the waters, then someone else go ahead and do it or I’ll assign it.  Otherwise, it's done.

Ian

On Feb 28, 2024, at 9:44 AM, Ian Budd ian....@icbaudio.com <Hel...@gibhenry.com> wrote:

<snip>I have taken the initiative to create a temporary (or maybe permanent) group on groups.io while you can still see postings here on Gib’s group.

I have called it Helix-Donut-users and it is in the process of being approved. It should be valid within 24 hours.

If you wish to continue being able to communicate, you can sign up for it as soon as it has been approved at:

https://groups.io/g/Helix-Donut-users

or it should be publicly visible at groups.io

If enough people sign up and want to make it permanent, then it can be so.  If one is created on the Donut site that everyone wants to migrate to, then that will be fine too.  I’m also happy to assign the administration of this to anyone who would like to take it on.

Regards,

[Steve Stoddart s.stoddart@rogcowines.com]

Dear Gib

Thank you for keeping the band together for all these years. Hoping you will join the band V 2.0 on the other side.

Steve

[Julian Andersen julian@andermac.org]

  Joining the chorus of appreciation for Gib’s enablement of this long running discussion, and thanks to all talented, clever people who contributed so much commentary.

— Julian

-- Julian Andersen
-- Lake Forest Park, WA

[Quipu Pty Ltd lee@quipu.com.au]

Its a wondrous thing to reflect on the enduring impact of Gib’s list.

I don’t recall when it started but do know I was active on it long before my cat, Helix died - even before my first marriage ended (partly because of my obsession with Helix).

It was a time when Pam Neidermeyer(?) dispensed sensible advice even as firstly, Odesta, then unReal Provencher, then the Chip Merchant, then QSA held the reins. 

It was a place where smart, experienced people like Philip Bath could offer abstruse but useful ways to do impossible things. Things missing from the scatty documentation. 

A place where Lenny Eiger could quietly(!) evangelise the optimal way to do things that bypassed the gremlins in the code. 

Through it all Gib’s list held the line. A lifeline that we straggly band of eccentrics, loners, erudite professionals, and hard-nosed business owners could cling to, bereft of all hope, except for the crazy one that may yet bring us home. 

Thanks Gib for the years, nay decades of selfless service. 

We stragglers salute you. 

Lee

On 29 Feb 2024, at 09:06, Julian Andersen jul...@andermac.org <Hel...@gibhenry.com> wrote:



[Prof.Dr.Michael Stur netzhautklinik@mac.com]

Ian,

Thank you so much for creating the new mailing list. It will succeed.

Gib,

Keeping up the okd Helux-L list has been one if the main reasobs we still gave Helix !!

Thank you, thank you, thank you

Michael

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 28.02.2024 um 20:33 schrieb Ian Budd ian....@icbaudio.com <Hel...@gibhenry.com>:

Behind the scenes we have agreed that the new group is going to work well for our purposes.

We already have 18 members who have transitioned and new sign ups are coming in every few minutes.

I encourage everyone to transition and especially those of you who have provided such great insight over the years due to your vast expertise in these areas. I know very little and would really appreciate your continued involvement.

These are going to be interesting (and maybe challenging) times and it will be important for us to share our experiences.

Regards,

Ian

Here again is where you will go to sign up:

https://groups.io/g/Helix-Donut-users

On Feb 28, 2024, at 2:15 PM, robert keigher robert...@yahoo.com <Hel...@gibhenry.com> wrote:

I thank you as well. Hopefully this will keep going in some fashion with a new group. 

Before this list goes away, I really want to try the new server, but would like to hear from anyone who has upgraded and how that worked. 

Thanks

Robert  

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Wednesday, February 28, 2024, 10:30 AM, Dana Barnard d.ba...@barson.group <Hel...@gibhenry.com> wrote:

Thanks to all the great people that have participated on this list.   I have turned to it so many times to get unstuck.

Thank you, Ian for setting up a new list.

Thank you, Gib for this huge effort over the years.

All Hail Gib!

Dana

Gib Henry G...@GibHenry.com

February 27, 2024 at 2:27 PM

Thank you for all the suggestions regarding replacements for Helix-L.  I’ve looked into some of them, and I’ve given a lot of thought to starting over.  Sadly, I ultimately decided not to do that.

So Thursday will be the last day for posting to the list; on Friday I will begin changing over my email system.  It’s been a real roller coaster since 1994, and I will certainly miss hearing from all of you, and the sense of community, but I feel happy that Helix, like the Phoenix, is rising again.  Cheers,

---

Gib Henry
List Administrator, Helix-L Discussion List
helix-l...@gibhenry.com

--






Dana E. Barnard
CEO
Barson Corporation
www.barson.group
d.ba...@barson.group
505-603-5306

[Wade Brezina wade@thewintrack.com]

Thank you and best wishes Gib!

If there is anything I can do for you or you just feel like staying in
touch my info is below. If you ever come to Minneapolis look me up! I
will always be grateful for your service and the gracious way you
handled it!

Wade

--
Win-Track
Providing business productivity solutions since 1990
3324 41st Ave S
Minneapolis, MN 55406
651-246-7457


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Lee

I remember reading and re-reading, the stubbornly working my way through
some of the things that Phillip wrote. Was not easy to understand but
like most good things was worth the effort in the end!  This list really
has been an incredible source of knowledge far beyond any documentation!

Wade

On 2/29/24 02:49, Quipu Pty Ltd l...@quipu.com.au wrote:
>
> It was a place where smart, experienced people like Philip Bath could
> offer abstruse but useful ways to do impossible things. Things missing
> from the scatty documentation.