PROPOSAL - quiet space / podcast booth near biolab

[Luis Montes]

Now that the AC equipment is out of that room, I propose we turn half of it into a small meeting room/ quiet spot.

The full space is about 6'x10' with a drain on the floor for the AC equipment on the roof.  I think we should put up a wall in the center and use the east half(side without the floor drain) of the room.

The room could have sound dampening tiles, a narrow table/desk and a couple of chairs.  Maybe paint the center wall green as a permanent green screen.

I'll donate up to $750 for materials to build it out.  It needs to be cleaned out and sanitized, which I volunteer to work on as well.

-Luis

[Nate Caine]

I wish this had been titled:

DISCUSSION:  What should we do with the blower room?

This should be hammered out and discussed online at a couple of HYH, before we rush thru with the first proposal made.

There have been at least four other mentions of what that room could be used for.

Those should all get an airing about how to best utilized the limited floorspace around the lab for the maximum benefit of the community..

And to address the various ideas bantered around which include:

• "meeting room"
• "podcast studio" 
• "quiet spot"
• "video suite"
• general storage (some stuff can't be hauled up the stairs)
• janitorial storage (all the crap in those lockers and floor area takes up valuable kitchen space, and would do better in a store room)
• equipment storage (again, too heavy to haul up stairs)
• CNC wood router

I'm concerned that this is a bit premature for a "proposal".

I can easily see the current proposal becoming a "money-pit" as we get into the details and attempt to remediate the blower room's many problems that are beyond what Luis mentioned.

A past decision to put the screen printing station the kitchen made sense (access to sink) but somewhat stagnated with COVID.

Recently there was also discussion of dedicating a kitchen counter (3ft) for resin 3D printing.  Once again, access to sink.

Also the reflow station has been sitting in the kitchen for almost 2 (?) years, awaiting attention.

I think it best to have a broader discussion, and form a build-out plan, of many projects rather than repeat our past hodge-podge approach.

[Darrell Wertz]

I counter the suggestion (proposal) for the AC duct space. I suggest moving everything in the kitchen into the duct room. That includes all of the maintenance supply, screen printing, computer terminals and other clutter.

Make the kitchen an all purpose room (not a dumping ground or a broom closet)

Get some proper flush mount lighting for the kitchen

Get a proper door and an "On The Air light" for the kitchen

Acquire a digital whiteboard/ computer for online meetings

Set up a green screen for video production, podcasting, web meetings. 

Use the utility sink in the biolab for handwashing to minimize the greasy mess in the sink.

Reasons:

The duct room will still be noisy with random blower operation, humid and pretty much like a dungeon.

Screen printing needs water adjacent and can be messy.

Screen printing needs to act as a darkroom at times.

It would hide the mess created by the maintenance department

I'm planning to get screen printing up and running once the machine shop is under control.

DarrellW

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[Luis Montes]

Well a proposal implies discussion.  I don't think making a proposal was premature at all.   

We've been talking about building a couple of phone booths for coworking for years now.  This just seemed like an opportunity to speed that up.

I'm standing by it.  We have so much stagnate stuff taking up space at the lab already, I don't want to see more floor space designated for storage.

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[Jot Powers]

Since I think we're scheduled to vote on this at HYH on Thursday, I wanted to provide some feedback ahead of the meeting (as I know I'm annoyed when you only get it during the meeting).

Before I vote for any use of the "new to us" space, I'd like to see a detailed plan.  Not just "we should build this thing in here" but actual plans with dimensions, lighting, materials, etc.

I'd also like to be able to tradeoff what different uses could be in that space, as Darrell and Nate laid out.

IMO.

-Jot

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[Cprossu]

It's good that we're discussing using this newly found space!

A few things should be brought up though that are important

1) The room is absolutely disgusting, not just sanitary wise but also aesthetics wise. I don't believe sanitizing and whitewashing will make it into a 'nice space'.

2) There are plenty of copper pipes (some with pressurized water), which limit the headroom and usable space inside this room and would be an absolute hassle should the wrong ones get damaged.

3) Despite it having ductwork inside of it, it is not well ventilated and is not air conditioned with the rest of the lab. Adding a vent would screw with the building's air balance (which to be fair is probably screwed up anyway)

4) The A/C is right above it, so noise/vibration could be an issue, and I think the condensate from the A/C drains down there too

5) The doors in their current state leave a bit to be desired if the room is to be occupied while the doors are closed. We don't want the possibility of anyone getting locked inside for an instance.

Which leads to

6) It will not be a pleasant/nice place to stay for any significant length of time (I mean unless you are weird).

I think we should use the space, but maybe for a process or things that are stored in other parts of the lab.

This room will not have UV light for an instance, so perhaps it could be suited to the screen printing station, it could be a good place out of the way to put the resin based 3D printers, we could store our chemicals/janitorial things there, or perhaps we could even entertain the idea of a photography dark room.

I do think we should have a good place to do some kind of teleconferencing/video greenscreen/private meetings/what have you, and although we agreed that it could be done in the former Kitchen, other things and stations have taken up that space.

[dlwe...@gmail.com]

In regards to the stuff in the kitchen, 

We need to remove:

• all of the maintenance lockers,
• computer stations,  
• screen printing equipment and all of the other clutter.  

Add:

• Door (Sound blocking)
• Green screen (Pulldown)
• Logo wall for video background
• Room in use notification
• Furnishings that can easily be swapped out for different uses

Replace:

• Lighting with flush mount LED panels
• Furnishings that can easily be swapped out for different uses

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In the dungeon:

• Add Dehumidifier
• Store maintenance materials (Brooms, cleaners, paper products, ...)
• Lockers
• Silk Screen equipment

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Utility sink for hand washing to keep traffic out of the kitchen....

[Luis Montes]

I'm open to Darryl's suggestions as a modification to this proposal.

However, I want the quiet space sectioned off from the rest of the kitchen.  Remove the left upper cabinet on the south facing wall as well as the counter below it next to the stove.  The space could be around 5 feet by 9 feet without disrupting much of the kitchen. I'm still up for purchasing materials (wood, drywall, door, sound tiles, etc) to make this happen.

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[dlwe...@gmail.com]

I think before we finalize the plan, we should move all of the stuff over to the blower room (dungeon) to see exactly what we are working with. It's easy to simply assume that everything will fit the way we want. There is a lot of stuff in the kitchen. :-0

[SM Newstead]

I think storage is a better idea as well. The kitchen is actually a nice room. The blower room is not even properly sealed from raw sewage fumes, like seriously. 

[Eric Wood]

If this were a survey my vote would go to "broom closet".