Lab camera situation, eyefi cloud service is dead/costs money now
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cpr...@gmail.com
Jan 14, 2017, 7:47:57 PM1/14/17
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Just thought I'd make a post here about the fact that the lab's camera no longer uploads stuff to photosync anymore, as the company that owns the eyefi sd card stuff has stopped supporting the product we have in the lab camera.
It's kind of a bummer not having it anymore, and I am wondering if someone here has a good idea of a replacement or hack they can put into place to give us back that functionality.
It's kind of a bummer not having it anymore, and I am wondering if someone here has a good idea of a replacement or hack they can put into place to give us back that functionality.
cpr...@gmail.com
Jan 27, 2017, 2:05:30 AM1/27/17
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If we wanted to do a hack, it would be pretty cool if someone set up a small tablet pc or netbook with an sd card slot which would automatically upload the contents of the sd card to flickr (and potentially automatically come up with an erase/copy sd card option) so we could use potentially any camera as a lab camera, or
since there are now cameras that come with the ability to directly post stuff via wifi, buying a whole new camera might be the easiest solution to the problem for now:
Options I've seen that don't break the bank, that claim to be able to upload pictures automatically:
Canon Powershot SX610JS (Wifi enabled) $229 new/amazon
Canon Powershot SX710JS (Wifi enabled) $259 new/amazon
There is a sony, but it appears to need a smartphone to do it's bidding, I am not completely sure on the canon units, but perhaps someone can look into it.
The panasonic line is a bit confusing in the manuals, and the nikon's with this option are probably out of our price range.
since there are now cameras that come with the ability to directly post stuff via wifi, buying a whole new camera might be the easiest solution to the problem for now:
Options I've seen that don't break the bank, that claim to be able to upload pictures automatically:
Canon Powershot SX610JS (Wifi enabled) $229 new/amazon
Canon Powershot SX710JS (Wifi enabled) $259 new/amazon
There is a sony, but it appears to need a smartphone to do it's bidding, I am not completely sure on the canon units, but perhaps someone can look into it.
The panasonic line is a bit confusing in the manuals, and the nikon's with this option are probably out of our price range.
Ryan Mcdermott
Jan 27, 2017, 1:34:48 PM1/27/17
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Robert Bell
Jan 27, 2017, 1:40:59 PM1/27/17
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Ryan Mcdermott
Jan 27, 2017, 1:57:52 PM1/27/17
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Interesting... Do we need to flash a new firmware onto the cards to make use of those?
Robert Bell
Jan 27, 2017, 2:00:56 PM1/27/17
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echo "172.22.110.? eyefi.com" >> /etc/hosts
Nate Plamondon
Jan 27, 2017, 2:03:41 PM1/27/17
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If we could get our own eyefi server running, that'd be Super Cool™.
IMO, that Nikon is a no-go as it requires a smartphone or tablet to handle the connection/upload. --
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Robert Bell
Jan 27, 2017, 3:06:25 PM1/27/17
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hackiest: create a general purpose media dispatch file share for images to be saved to. Eyefi would simply be another account that writes to the directory. HSL director of communication/media intern could specify rules-based approve/upload automation.
smartest: A cheap phone w/ WiFi and install Flickr, Google Photos. A selfie stick from the dollar store could be painted orange to discourage theft. If you see a (sober) big-smile selfie on Flickr, you'll see an ego that failed a simple (hacker) test (lol) that will continue to believe what they want to believe (about the basement).
Ryan Mcdermott
Jan 27, 2017, 3:57:54 PM1/27/17
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I think hackiest is the best idea I've heard for HSL picture integration and storage server ever.
cpr...@gmail.com
Jan 27, 2017, 7:51:55 PM1/27/17
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hackiest: create a general purpose media dispatch file share for images to be saved to.
-Well we are known for the hackiest.
I do like the idea of taking an android phone with a really good camera and just making that the lab cam though!
If we go the dump drive way, I propose that we have a photo kiosk to upload stuff with.
I do like the idea of taking an android phone with a really good camera and just making that the lab cam though!
If we go the dump drive way, I propose that we have a photo kiosk to upload stuff with.
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cpr...@gmail.com
Jan 27, 2017, 7:56:33 PM1/27/17
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Can someone code up a mobile/text friendly website that has an upload feature to dump to a common place? Then we can have an internal web server that serves that page, and the same VM can have a cron job or something that uploads stuff to flickr?
That way it won't matter what end device uploads the pictures and stuff?
That way it won't matter what end device uploads the pictures and stuff?
Eric Ose
Jan 29, 2017, 3:08:18 AM1/29/17
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I'm hopeful we will implement one of these ideas and keep the flickr stream going. FYI I did just add screensavers to stations at the lab to showcase projects made with the tools at the station. More info here.
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cpr...@gmail.com
Feb 8, 2017, 2:47:26 AM2/8/17
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Feb 9, 2017, 2:59:14 AM2/9/17
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So there was work done which we can look into:
http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Eye-Fi
http://www.returnbooleantrue.com/2009/04/eye-fi-standalone-server-version-20.html
http://dave-hansen.blogspot.com/
https://techcrunch.com/2008/03/18/inside-the-eye-fi-card/
So perhaps not all is lost on the original hardware!
http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Eye-Fi
http://www.returnbooleantrue.com/2009/04/eye-fi-standalone-server-version-20.html
http://dave-hansen.blogspot.com/
https://techcrunch.com/2008/03/18/inside-the-eye-fi-card/
So perhaps not all is lost on the original hardware!
Robert Bell
Feb 9, 2017, 5:32:07 AM2/9/17
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Eric Ose
Feb 9, 2017, 10:32:22 AM2/9/17
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Cpro didn't mention the time he spent yesterday trying to work on this project. There was some discovery, but not success.
I think he's pointing out the perceived best way forward and would welcome help as he does have other projects he is working on.
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Feb 9, 2017, 11:20:23 AM2/9/17
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I don't tend to document my efforts that lead to nothing or don't lead to spectacular failure that others could learn from...
In the case of last night it was hours of trying things and looking for things that didn't exist or haven't been built yet, of which I lack the experience and know-how to make work.
I don't like taking on projects outside my area of expertise with a public project like this that is to be used every day when there is a whole hackerspace of people who would do a mindbogglingly better job at making a more logical, more secure, and most importantly easily maintainable system. Anything I build and get working is pointless if it's easily compromised, works in a backwards way that future generations cannot maintain, or is unusable by anyone but myself.
I was trying to build a kiosk solution last night, but that will be a bit more involved than I initially thought due to the way flickr works and the fact they have a native uploader. Really annoyingly it used to be free, but not of course you have to have a 'pro account' and thus pay to use it.
The awesome and amazing ELO touchscreen I brought with me to use with the said kiosk was needed more in the CNC area, so I've donated it to that cause instead.
The quick and dirty way of just having a pc hooked up to the web with full access rights to our flickr account is the most unwise thing to do, as things could go south very quickly if someone decided to mess the whole world up/change the password/destroy content/whatever so if we go with the kiosk or even local intranet upload site I'll need help from someone who messes with web development, and knows how to properly secure it to make a webpage and a flickr uploader script that can run securely on the said backend. For me it's not an easy solution, and it would have the potential to break and need maintaining every time flickr changed something.
If it was easy everyone would be doing it, and I would not be sticking my nose into things that didn't need to be fixed.
I was in a livestream late last night when someone pointed out that toshiba makes an SD card uploader solution as well called flashair, which appears to not have any ability to upload stuff natively to flickr
https://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Flash-Wireless-Memory-PFW032U-1BCW/dp/B00GEBTH80
Someone else had pointed out that the magiclantern folks had worked on the eyefi card, and I was given a link to it by them. I fully believe if I had tried the techniques found at that moment in my tiredness, I would have bricked our eyefi card, and thus left us with one less option to try. If someone else wanted to try these techniques out I posted it here, and I am sorry if I offended you by appearing to be a pestering asshole @ Robert. I brought a bunch of crap with me last night to try and solve the problem and failed. Annoyingly even if we hack our eyefi card, or get the toshiba, we still might ultimately need a backend script to upload the files to the flickr account.
In the case of last night it was hours of trying things and looking for things that didn't exist or haven't been built yet, of which I lack the experience and know-how to make work.
I don't like taking on projects outside my area of expertise with a public project like this that is to be used every day when there is a whole hackerspace of people who would do a mindbogglingly better job at making a more logical, more secure, and most importantly easily maintainable system. Anything I build and get working is pointless if it's easily compromised, works in a backwards way that future generations cannot maintain, or is unusable by anyone but myself.
I was trying to build a kiosk solution last night, but that will be a bit more involved than I initially thought due to the way flickr works and the fact they have a native uploader. Really annoyingly it used to be free, but not of course you have to have a 'pro account' and thus pay to use it.
The awesome and amazing ELO touchscreen I brought with me to use with the said kiosk was needed more in the CNC area, so I've donated it to that cause instead.
The quick and dirty way of just having a pc hooked up to the web with full access rights to our flickr account is the most unwise thing to do, as things could go south very quickly if someone decided to mess the whole world up/change the password/destroy content/whatever so if we go with the kiosk or even local intranet upload site I'll need help from someone who messes with web development, and knows how to properly secure it to make a webpage and a flickr uploader script that can run securely on the said backend. For me it's not an easy solution, and it would have the potential to break and need maintaining every time flickr changed something.
If it was easy everyone would be doing it, and I would not be sticking my nose into things that didn't need to be fixed.
I was in a livestream late last night when someone pointed out that toshiba makes an SD card uploader solution as well called flashair, which appears to not have any ability to upload stuff natively to flickr
https://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Flash-Wireless-Memory-PFW032U-1BCW/dp/B00GEBTH80
Someone else had pointed out that the magiclantern folks had worked on the eyefi card, and I was given a link to it by them. I fully believe if I had tried the techniques found at that moment in my tiredness, I would have bricked our eyefi card, and thus left us with one less option to try. If someone else wanted to try these techniques out I posted it here, and I am sorry if I offended you by appearing to be a pestering asshole @ Robert. I brought a bunch of crap with me last night to try and solve the problem and failed. Annoyingly even if we hack our eyefi card, or get the toshiba, we still might ultimately need a backend script to upload the files to the flickr account.
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