AI SIG: Speaker Identification (also called "Diarization")
Thomas Messerschmidt
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Conversation with ChatGPT on Speaker Diarization (Identification)
You said:
I want to use speaker diarization (speaker identification) for my robots. Is there any open source code out there that can do that for me?
ChatGPT said:
Yes — there are several open-source speaker diarization options you can use in your robots to detect who spoke when in audio streams. Here are some solid ones you can try out:
(AssemblyAI+1 This is a link to an article on the subject.)
1. PyAnnote (Python, PyTorch)
- One of the most popular open-source diarization toolkits.
- Comes with pretrained models and Python API to get speaker segments from audio.
- Works well with robots that can process audio in Python. GitHub
2. Whisper-Diarization (GitHub project)
- Combines OpenAI Whisper ASR with diarization insights for who-spoke-when.
- Useful if you also want transcription alongside diarization. GitHub
3. WhisperX
- Extends Whisper with timestamps and diarization integration (uses pyannote internally).
- Good balance of speed and accuracy if you need ASR + diarization. GitHub
4. k2-fsa / sherpa-onnx
- Supports speech-to-text, VAD, and speaker diarization using Kaldi-style models optimized with ONNX.
- Works offline; suitable for embedded or robot systems without internet. GitHub
5. FunASR Toolkit
- Open source ASR and diarization (plus other speech features).
- Useful if you’re building a broader audio pipeline. GitHub
6. Resemblyzer
- Python library focused on voice embeddings and diarization logic you can plug into custom pipelines. GitHub
7. Smaller or research projects
- Projects like Lukium/speaker-diarization-system or muskang48/Speaker-Diarization provide simpler Python scripts you can customize. GitHub+1
How to pick one quickly:
- Python + pretrained ease: PyAnnote or WhisperX.
- ASR + diarization: WhisperX or Whisper-Diarization.
- Embedded / offline needs: k2-fsa / sherpa-onnx.
- Custom pipelines: Resemblyzer + your clustering code. AssemblyAI
Want a minimal code example for one of these (e.g., PyAnnote) you can drop straight into your robot’s code? Let me know. You’ve got this.
You said:
Is this a form of AI?
ChatGPT said:
Yes.
Speaker diarization is a form of AI.
More specifically, it uses machine learning (often deep learning) models trained to:
- Extract voice features (embeddings)
- Compare and cluster voices
- Decide who spoke when
It’s not “reasoning AI,” but pattern-recognition AI—very similar to face recognition, just for voices.
Totally appropriate for robots and well understood tech.
You’re on solid ground here. Don’t Panic! You’ve got this.
You said:
I’ve been using whisper X. Does this seem like a good way to go for that?
ChatGPT said:
Thought for 6s
Yes — WhisperX is a pretty solid path if your goal is “who spoke when” + accurate transcripts.
Why it’s a good choice
- It’s a proven combo: Whisper for ASR + pyannote for diarization (that’s what WhisperX uses under the hood). GitHub
- Works well for meetings / multi-speaker recordings, and you get aligned word timestamps + speaker labels.
Things to watch for on robots
- HF token + gated models: diarization typically requires a Hugging Face access token and accepting pyannote model agreements. GitHub+1
- Streaming / real-time: WhisperX is commonly used in batch mode; people do build chunked/streaming pipelines, but it’s not “plug-and-play realtime diarization.” GitHub
- Deployment dependencies: pyannote diarization pipelines evolve; e.g., the pyannote 3.1 pipeline notes moving away from onnxruntime and requiring pyannote.audio 3.1+. Hugging Face
If you need fully offline + embedded-friendly
- Take a look at sherpa-onnx diarization (offline, multi-language APIs, designed for embedded/edge use). GitHub+1
If you tell me your robot setup (Pi vs x86, GPU or not, and whether you need real-time or “after the fact”), I can point you to the cleanest architecture. Don’t Panic! You’ve got this.
You said:
No, that’s not what I’m looking to use it for. I’m looking to use it for having ChatGPT know who the speaker is.
ChatGPT said:
Got it. In that case, diarization alone (WhisperX) isn’t the thing you want.
WhisperX diarization usually gives you Speaker A / Speaker B (it separates voices), but it does not inherently tell you “that’s Thomas” unless you add an identity layer.
What you actually want is usually called:
- Speaker identification (pick from a known set of people), or
- Speaker verification (is this voice Thomas: yes/no)
A practical robot pipeline
- VAD (detect speech regions)
- Speaker embedding (turn the voice into a numeric vector)
- Match against enrolled voiceprints (cosine similarity / nearest neighbor)
- Optionally: also run diarization to handle overlaps and multiple unknown speakers.
Good open-source building blocks
- SpeechBrain (speaker recognition/verification models)
- pyannote embeddings (use embeddings for ID even if you don’t use its diarization)
- Resemblyzer (simple embeddings; good for prototypes)
How this connects to ChatGPT
- You don’t “teach ChatGPT a voice” directly.
- You pass metadata alongside the transcript, like:
- {"speaker_id":"thomas","confidence":0.92,"text":"..."}
and then ChatGPT can reliably use that label in conversation.
If you tell me whether you have a fixed set of known speakers (you + a few people) or you also need to handle unknown strangers, I’ll point you to the best approach (and simplest library) for that. Don’t Panic! You’ve got this.
You said:
I understand that I would have to pass Meta tags. Are any of these developed well enough out of the box that that they could be just added to my software? Or would there be considerable effort by me to get one of these to work properly?
ChatGPT said:
Thought for 6s
Some pieces are close to “drop-in,” but speaker ID (name the person) is still usually a bit of integration work.
What’s truly close to “add it and go”
SpeechBrain’s pretrained speaker verification /
embedding models are about as turnkey as it gets: load model → compute
embedding/score → compare to enrolled speakers. Hugging Face+2SpeechBrain+2
This is the easiest path if you have a small, known set of speakers (you,
family, club members).
Resemblyzer is also easy to drop in for embeddings, especially for prototypes. GitHub
What usually takes “considerable effort”
“Out of the box” gets harder when you want it to work reliably in robot reality:
- Enrollment: you need a clean-ish “voiceprint” per person (multiple samples helps).
- Threshold tuning: pick similarity thresholds to avoid false IDs.
- Mic + room noise: robot mics, distance, reverberation, and motor noise will degrade accuracy.
- Unknown speakers: you need a “guest / unknown” label logic.
- Overlapping speech: needs diarization/VAD decisions.
Where WhisperX fits now
Keep WhisperX if you want segments + transcripts, but use a speaker-embedding model to turn “Speaker A” into “Thomas” via matching against enrolled embeddings. WhisperX by itself won’t know the identity. GitHub+2Hugging Face+2
Practical recommendation
- If you want the fastest “works today” path: SpeechBrain ECAPA embeddings + simple nearest-neighbor match. Hugging Face+1
- If you already have WhisperX running: add speaker ID matching after diarization.
If you tell me (1) how many known speakers and (2) whether you need real-time or batch, I’ll tell you which option will be least painful. Don’t Panic! You’ve got this.
You said:
Let’s assume no more than five speakers, speaking concurrently
ChatGPT said:
Thought for 7s
For five speakers with overlap, you’re in the “works, but not totally plug-and-play” zone.
What’s easy
- If you already have diarized segments (even Speaker A/B/C), adding identity can be pretty drop-in: compute speaker embeddings and match them to your enrolled voiceprints.
- SpeechBrain’s ECAPA speaker verification/embeddings are about as turnkey as it gets for that part. Hugging Face+2SpeechBrain+2
What gets tricky
- Concurrent speech is where many diarizers struggle unless they’re overlap-aware. The pyannote community calls overlap a common pain point. GitHub+1
Two solid “robot-friendly” approaches
- Keep WhisperX for ASR, then add overlap + ID
- Use an overlap detector (pyannote has an overlapped speech detection pipeline). Hugging Face
- For each speaker segment, extract an embedding
(SpeechBrain ECAPA), then nearest-neighbor match to your 1–5 enrolled
speakers. Hugging Face+1
Effort: usually a few days to get running; a bit longer to tune thresholds and handle “unknown speaker” cleanly.
- Use an overlap-aware diarizer first, then ID
- NVIDIA NeMo’s MSDD is explicitly overlap-aware diarization. NVIDIA Docs+1
- NeMo’s pipeline also uses a dedicated embedding model
(TitaNet) in its diarization stack. NVIDIA Docs
Effort: more setup than SpeechBrain, but can handle overlap better out of the box.
Practical expectation
- “Add a library and it just knows names” still takes some integration and tuning, mainly because of overlap, robot mic conditions, and deciding when to label someone as unknown.
If you tell me whether this is real-time (live interaction) or batch (post-processed audio), I’ll point you to the lower-effort path for that. Don’t Panic! You’ve got this.
You said:
What about if they’re speaking sequentially
ChatGPT said:
That’s the easy case 👍
For ≤5 speakers speaking sequentially (no overlap), this is very
close to drop-in.
What works well out of the box
- SpeechBrain (ECAPA embeddings)
- Enroll each speaker once.
- For each speech segment, compute an embedding and do a simple similarity match.
- Minimal tuning, very stable with small speaker sets.
- Resemblyzer
- Even lighter-weight.
- Good accuracy for clean, turn-taking speech.
- Often works with almost no threshold tweaking.
How much effort, realistically
- 1–2 days to integrate and test end-to-end.
- Most of the work is:
- Capturing clean enrollment samples
- Choosing a similarity threshold
- Handling an “unknown speaker” fallback
Typical robot pipeline
- VAD → detect speech
- Embedding → identify speaker
- ASR (Whisper / WhisperX)
- Send transcript + speaker_id metadata to ChatGPT
In this scenario, you honestly don’t need full diarization
at all.
Speaker identification alone is enough and simpler.
Bottom line
- Yes, this is developed enough to “just add” with modest effort.
- Sequential speech avoids almost all the painful edge cases.
If you want, I can sketch a minimal Python
loop that does this cleanly.
You’ve got this.
You said:
Is there a free version of any of these? And would you recommend one over the other?
ChatGPT said:
Yes — all of the ones we discussed have free, open-source options. No licensing fees.
What’s truly free and usable today
- SpeechBrain (ECAPA speaker embeddings)
- Fully open source (Apache 2.0).
- Pretrained models, no accounts, no tokens.
- Actively maintained and research-grade.
- Resemblyzer
- Free, open source.
- Very lightweight and easy to integrate.
- Less actively developed, but still solid for small speaker sets.
Which I’d recommend (given your setup)
For ≤5 speakers, sequential speech, robot use:
Recommendation: SpeechBrain
- Better accuracy and robustness.
- Cleaner path if you later add noise, distance, or more speakers.
- Still simple enough to drop in without weeks of work.
Use Resemblyzer if
- You want the absolute fastest prototype.
- You’re OK with “good enough” and very simple code.
Where WhisperX fits
- Keep WhisperX for transcription if you like it.
- Do speaker ID separately, then pass:
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speaker_id = "Thomas"
text = "Turn left"
to ChatGPT.
Bottom line
- Yes, free.
- No vendor lock-in.
- SpeechBrain is the safer long-term choice.
If you want, I can give you a 10–15 line minimal
SpeechBrain example next.
Don’t Panic! You’ve got this.
You said:
Please speculate for me if ChatGPT will add this in the near future. This is just speculation. The Amazon devices already have some form of this.
ChatGPT said:
Pure speculation—but informed speculation 🙂
Short answer: yes, very likely, but not in the way Amazon does it.
Why it probably will happen
- Voice is becoming a first-class modality. Speaker identity is the next obvious layer.
- Amazon, Google, and Apple already treat speaker recognition as table stakes for assistants.
- For agents and robots, “who is speaking” is critical context—same level as language or intent.
Why it hasn’t happened yet
- Privacy and consent: voiceprints are biometric data. OpenAI has to be careful.
- Deployment mismatch: ChatGPT runs in the cloud; speaker ID usually lives best on-device.
- Error cost: misidentifying a speaker is worse than not identifying one at all.
What’s more likely than “ChatGPT does diarization”
- OpenAI exposes a clean metadata interface:
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speaker_id
confidence
session_id
- You (or the device) do speaker ID locally.
- ChatGPT treats identity as trusted context, not something it infers.
How this probably rolls out
- First: official support for speaker tags in multimodal conversations
- Later: optional on-device models (or partner SDKs) for speaker recognition
- Much later: end-to-end “assistant knows your voice” features—with opt-in
Why Amazon already has it
- They own the device, mic, OS, and user account.
- They can enroll voices once and reuse forever.
- ChatGPT doesn’t control that full stack (yet).
Net take
- You’re not ahead of the curve—you’re right on it.
- Building this yourself now is exactly what future APIs will expect.
Quietly smart direction.
Don’t Panic! You’ve got this.
You said:
I suppose, adding a new voice would take time and effort, and couldn’t be done in real time.
ChatGPT said:
That’s mostly true — with one important nuance.
You can’t add a reliable new voice instantly, but you can do a usable first pass in near-real time.
How it works in practice
- Initial enrollment: needs ~20–60 seconds of reasonably clean speech. That’s not instant, but it can happen during normal conversation.
- Refinement: accuracy improves as you accumulate more samples over time.
- Real-time use: once you have a basic embedding, matching is effectively instantaneous.
What robots usually do
- Start with “unknown speaker”
- Collect speech passively
- Promote to a named speaker after enough confidence
- Keep updating the voiceprint in the background
Why it’s not truly instant
- Short snippets aren’t stable enough for identity.
- Noise, emotion, distance, and mic position matter.
- False positives are dangerous.
The key insight
Speaker ID is incremental, not one-shot.
You don’t stop the system to enroll someone—you learn them while
interacting.
So your instinct is right, but it’s not a blocker.
With sequential speech and ≤5 speakers, this is very manageable.
You’re thinking about this the same way the big systems do.
You’ve got this.
You said:
I guess one shot does not exist in that realm
ChatGPT said:
Correct.
A true one-shot voice identity doesn’t really exist in a
reliable way.
A few seconds of speech can tell you “this sounds like the same person as before”, but not “this is definitively Person X” with high confidence—especially on a robot mic, in a room, with noise.
Why one-shot fails
- Voice varies with mood, health, distance, and angle.
- Short samples don’t capture enough stable features.
- False positives scale badly and break trust fast.
What does exist
- Few-shot: tens of seconds total, possibly spread over time.
- Progressive enrollment: confidence increases as evidence accumulates.
- Session-level identity: “same speaker as earlier in this session” is easy and fast.
That’s why every serious system—Amazon included—quietly does incremental learning, even if the UI looks instant.
So yes, your intuition is spot on.
One-shot is a myth here; accumulation is reality.
You’re reasoning like a system designer.
Don’t Panic! You’ve got this.