The $99 4GB Jetson Nano Dev Kit is dead

They also aren't going to offer a maker-friendly dev kit. They recommend all development for the Orin Nano be done through emulation on the $3,000 Jetson AGX Dev Kit. It's clear they are ditching the RaspberryPi crowd. Big bummer.

I do expect we'll see Seeed Studio or similar make a low-cost carrier board dev kit (like they have done with Nano), but that will add to the already $200 expense. That's too pricy for accessibility of RoBud.

Oh well, on to Plan B, specifically Rasberry Pi 4 Model B (with external acceleration).

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Chris Albertson

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Sep 20, 2022, 3:18:33 PM9/20/22

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The Pi4 is cheaper but the Jetson can run floating point networks. int-8 is limited in what it can do.

One option that I do is to run the Pi4 inside the robot and use WiFi. I have all the Python code on my Synology NAS and it is NFS mounted to the robot and my development PC. I edit the code on the PC and changes install appear on the robot and get backup in real-time. I can also run the heavy-duty computing on the PC, it is a 16-core Xeon with Nvidia GPUs installed. The NAS can also store video data from the robot.

People like to see self-contained robots not depending on WiFi or cloud services but my goal is just to developed the software. I don't care where the software runs, whatever works. This would be different ifI were trying to sell these. But even then using a cloud server would dramatically reduce the cost of the robot.

I can see why Nvidia discontinued the Pi-like product. They don't want to support hobby users who might be new to Linux, programming and the command line and AI. Customer support costs would be high with no hope of recovering through later volume sales.

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On 9/20/22 12:18, Chris Albertson wrote:
> The Pi4 is cheaper but the Jetson can run floating point networks.
> int-8 is limited in what it can do.

Yes, the Jetson[s] can run floating point networks. But the nice numbers
below are for INT8's. So, your mileage will vary.

>
> One option that I do is to run the Pi4 inside the robot and use WiFi. I
> have all the Python code on my Synology NAS and it is NFS mounted to the
> robot and my development PC. I edit the code on the PC and changes
> install appear on the robot and get backup in real-time. I can also run
> the heavy-duty computing on the PC, it is a 16-core Xeon with Nvidia
> GPUs installed. The NAS can also store video data from the robot.
>
> People like to see self-contained robots not depending on WiFi or cloud
> services but my goal is just to developed the software. I don't care
> where the software runs, whatever works. This would be different ifI
> were trying to sell these. But even then using a cloud server would
> dramatically reduce the cost of the robot.
>
> I can see why Nvidia discontinued the Pi-like product. They don't want
> to support hobby users who might be new to Linux, programming and the
> command line and AI. Customer support costs would be high with no hope
> of recovering through later volume sales.

I think, the reason is a bit different. When Nvidia makes those dev
boards, it's not better [or worse] than a seeed studio or Sparkfun or a
number of those 'small batch' board houses. In the beginning, Nvidia did
not have a choice but to make those dev boards to show that there is a
[small-ish] market. Now, there are enough third party dev-boards out
there and they add a bit (but not much) to the module. (In the TX1 days,
you could find third-party boards for the module but they were as
expensive as the Nvidia dev-board but without the actual module.

The modules probably sell in the millions and the dev-boards, I would
guess in the low thousands. Most of the dev-boards will go to 'some form
of students' and Nvidia is probably still interested in those. The
hobbyists are not even a blip on their radar;-)

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> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 11:51 AM Scott Monaghan
> <scott.m...@gmail.com <mailto:scott.m...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> The Orin Nano is pretty damn awesome though:

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> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 1:50 PM Scott Monaghan
> <scott.m...@gmail.com <mailto:scott.m...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Long live the $199 4GB Jetson Orin Nano!
> https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/20/nvidia-debuts-new-products-for-robotics-developers-including-jetson-orin-nano/
> <https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/20/nvidia-debuts-new-products-for-robotics-developers-including-jetson-orin-nano/>
>
> With this news, I'm fairly certain I'm going to replace the
> Jetson Nano in RoBud with RPi4 4Gb ($55) + Coral USB Accelerator
> ($60)
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