Upvc Fix
Asdrubal Dagreat
Were having our windows replaced. The quote for wood is nearly twice the amount as for the same rough 'look' in uPVC. The wooden have a better u value (1, rather than 1.2). We can afford to do the wood. Wwyd?
We have UVPC windows that look like the crap old single-glazed wooden ones they replaced. I challenge anyone to tell from outside the house that they're not wood. You literally can't tell until you touch them!
I wouldn't buy a house with recent wooden windows as I couldn't be arsed with the upkeep.
Only twice as much seems good to me. I'd have imagined it to be far more than that. I've got UPVC windows as I imagine most people have and they are fine, it's not something I think about too much although I can clearly see wooden ones are more attractive.
I know someone who has applied for UPVC windows to be put in on a listed building...
I agree with pp about UPVC. I too wouldn't buy a house with wooden ones for the same reason. There's not a lot of difference (or any other besides that ones wood and the other isn't) unless you're a snob. No one can tell mine aren't wooden.
I can answer this question! I live in an old Victorian house. I replaced all the windows 7 years ago. The front ones were wood, the back upc to save some money.
Regret the plastic ones all the time. The insulation is far better on the wooden ones, both for noise and temperature. The wooden ones are a joy to open and close and they look better.
I thought that getting premium plastic ones would be ok but I do regret it.
'....a well maintained wooden window will last a very very long time.'
Er......my new double glazed wood windows lasted less than ten years before significant rot occurred in the frames, and were replaced (by UPVC). A new wooden (timber Sapela) front door lasted less than seven years, before I could stick my finger into it like a sponge cake.
Modern timber is poor quality compared with the Victorian stuff.
Personally I much prefer wood. The answer is really dependent on which price bracket your house falls into. Sticking upvc windows in a period property in a desirable area would be foolhardy as you'll drop value of your house. In an ex-council terrace people will want the easy cheap option.
We have wooden windows. I would never, ever have them again. The maintenance is a total pain. Having to paint them periodically, sanding, filling etc. No thank you. Will replace with UPVC the instant we can afford to.
Oh gosh! I'm ping ponging around even more now!
After reading @BigBundleOfFluff 's post I thought I'd decided on the wood, but the idea of them rotting and needing to be replaced in less than 10 years is very off-putting.
Thank you everyone for your input on this - far too boring to try chatting to mates about!!
I would be very wary. We were going to replace our upvc with wood, started with the sliding back door. Replaced with oak. Used a reputable local company. The quality of wood right now is low, and with more than you'd expected to have to do in maintenance i don't think these doors will last 10 years, the way they agreed in the first 6 months was shocking. I think the markets are so geared towards the popularity here of knocking down and refitting everything so the quality just isn't there. We didn't skimp on these doors. All our other replacements will be upcv.
then your house will suffer if you seal up the building with upvc windows
Our house isn't "sealed up". Our windows have trickle vents.
Having lived in houses with wooden windows I wouldn't want them again. Our UPVC windows are still going strong in our 27 year old house but the wooden velux windows aren't.
I once spent an entire summer repainting our wooden Georgian style windows. Never again.
We caved in and replaced with uPVC as we couldn't justify the cost (more than double) to replace our existing wooden windows and frames like for like.
I don't regret it. The finish looks great and it's wonderful not to have to be doing constant rounds of checking for rot, treating them, splicing/filling and repainting.
My house was built in 1904. I have the original wooden door and original box sash windows at the front. Upvc ruins the internal climate of older houses by not allowing them to breathe and , at least in my opinion, is extremely ugly, ecologically unsound and architecturally inexcusable
If you don't mind the maintenance wood every time.
I have decent quality uPVC in a design that matches the original windows. I still don't like them, but I live in an area where it rains a lot so thought the best option.
If I could afford it and the maintenance I would get wood. I kept the original front door though, which is still going strong at 100 years old.
Upvc ruins the internal climate of older houses by not allowing them to breathe
Not if your windows have trickle vents in them, as ours do @Lilybetsey. Not all UPVC windows are ugly IMO.
I think the clue is in the fact that they were Edwardian. I don't think modern houses with wooden windows use the same quality wood these days.
I really don't understand the snobbery about UPVC. I just want windows that don't need looking after. I also don't think that good UPVC windows look awful.
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Hi, just an enquiry really, we have upvc fence panels in our garden but they have discoloured over the last couple of years. Will the bulls eye 123 paint work on it? The fence panels were brown and we would like to do them the same colour again. Thanks
Zinsser Bulls Eye 1-2-3 would be fine as a primer but something like Zinsser AllCoat Exterior Satin (Water Based) can adhere directly to the UPVC without the need of a primer and is available in nearly any colour of your choice.
Two coats are required, the first coat acts as the primer and the second seals and protects the system. It can be applied by either a brush or a roller and is re-coatable after a minimum of 1 hour. It is fully tint able so you can choose any colour from the RAL, NCS or BS colour charts.
I want to paint mu pvc outside door. Am I corerect in thinking that ZInsser all coat exterior satin whater base is fine to use without primer.
What preperation should i,due to previous owner having painted it use as it is flaking Can you tell me the available colours
Yes, Zinsser AllCoat Exterior Satin (Water Based) is fine on weathered UPVC without a primer. Preparation should be to remove all existing paint if this is failing, ensure underlying UPVC is then thoroughly cleaned and dry and then apply Zinsser AllCoat Exterior Satin (Water Based) directly in the chosen colour.
I have a upvc front door it is white . I want it black with crome accsesories added to it how do i do it ? It is a basic plastic door 2 straight glass windows at the top but i feel like a change can you please tell me what i need to get this door to the colour black matt thankyou sam
The windowsill of two UPVC south facing windows have started peeling off, the rest of the windows are in excellent condition. Would I be able to paint just the windowsills after removing the flaking UPVC and if I sent a sample would you be able to match it? Thank you
Hi,
I have just tried painting my upvc window with Zinsser exterior all coat satin white, however, the finish with both brush and roller is bad, granted I painted it on a very warm day but is there anyway of either thinning the paint down or an additive to alleviate the brush marks
This sounds like Allcoat Exterior Solvent Based which, in warm temperatures, will flash off very quickly. We recommend using Zinsser Allcoat Exterior Satin Water Based which, if necessary, can be thinned down say 5% with clean water to slow down the drying a little further. Certainly feel free to give our technical support team a call on 0113 2455450 (option 2) or send a message to tech...@rawlinspaints.com if you require more help with the application.
Hi Kyle,
I did use the water based version, but thanks for the information about thinning it with water, hopefully if I rub it down and paint it again using a diluted mix I will get a better finish.
Regards
Peter
I am wanting to repaint the outside of my old double glazing. The frames are made from aluminium which has a white finish. The finish now creates a chalky residue and the aluminium exposed in several areas because of damage by ivy.
Can you please advise appropriate paints & primers.
Many thanks
You state that it is easy to paint uPVC provided it is not new. I need to paint some new external cloaking profiles to match the non-standard RAL colour of some new aluminium windows. What is your recommendation?
Hi there
Some great information here, however I am a little confused. I want to paint the internal side only of my brown uPVC windows, do I need the Bullseye 123 plus primer, or can I simply sand, clean with meths and then apply All coat exterior? Will use of the 123 primer give a better, more durable finish?
Finally as the windows will be open to paint should I use the solvent based version?