Francis: “And those who profit from war and the arms trade are criminals who kill humanity...

[Jim Doran]

GOH,

Pope Francis is from the global South.

He looks at the world from a different angle, than, say, Joe Biden.

Best,

Jim

WIIL THE POPE BE NEXT? Pope Francis Is the Latest Target of Ukraine’s Myrotvorets Hit Squad

Aug. 31 (EIRNS)—On Aug. 28, the website of the fascist Myrotvorets (“Peacemaker”) hit squad in Ukraine attacked Pope Francis for his comments in a general audience about the assassinated Russian journalist Darya Dugina. Although they did not place His Holiness on their official hit list (at least not yet), the Myrotvorets site warned: “The Myrotvorets Center is closely following statements by the Pope. We note with astonishment that Francis of Rome is voicing Kremlin talking points and belittling the blood-letting of the fascist Russian invaders of Ukraine.”

The remarks by Pope Francis that were considered offensive were made while addressing his Wednesday general audience at the Vatican on Aug. 24: “I think of so much cruelty, so many innocents who are paying for madness, the madness of all sides, because war is madness and no one in war can say: ‘No, I am not mad.’ The madness of war.

“I think of that poor girl blown up by a bomb under her car seat in Moscow [Darya Dugina].

“The innocent pay for war, the innocent! Let us think about this reality and say to each other: war is madness.

“And those who profit from war and the arms trade are criminals who kill humanity....

“But today in a special way, six months after the beginning of the war, we think of Ukraine and Russia, I consecrated both countries to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. May she, as Mother, turn her gaze on these two beloved countries: may she look upon Ukraine, look upon Russia, and bring us peace! We need peace!”

His prayer quickly led to a protest by Ukraine’s envoy to the Vatican Andrii Yurash, who called the remarks “disappointing,” because it is a mistake to speak about the “aggressor” and the “victim” in “the same categories.” Then Kiev summoned the Vatican envoy, Archbishop Visvaldas Kulbokas, to lodge a formal complaint, which Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba revealed to the media on Aug. 25. Kuleba also said “Ukraine’s heart was torn by the Pope’s words,” calling them “unjust.”

The Pope has been considering a trip to Ukraine, but has made it clear that he will only go, if he can also travel to Russia. This is a standard Vatican diplomatic effort to maintain neutrality in such conflicts. The Zelenskyy government in Kiev has made it clear they are totally opposed to such a Russia trip by the Pope.

[haustusstevemcclure]

Ok, George, I do agree with you.  I really do.

But it is kind of the job of the pope to do that.

If we cannot or at least don't see the humanity of our adversaries.....we become blind to the realities of what we confront.

I even at times have found myself sadly contemplating the weak narcissism of Trp's struggles to endlessly push himself out there as the greatest.

I often think about the upbringing and follow on experiences that took the youthful potentialities of a Hitler or a Himmel and mourn what they eventually became.

When I look at them, and Putin, and so many others, and mourn my felliw human beings, am I speaking of the victim and the aggressor in the same categories?

Caught up as they are in the struggle of their lives, I don't condemn the obsessive definitional focus I see with Ukraine’s Myrotvorets Hit Squad.

We must always remember the vast moral gap between the victims and the aggressors.

But should we not, at the very same moment we Remer this vast difference, also remember our common humanity?

Hard to do -- but I kinda think it is the pope's job to call us to do that.

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Date: 9/7/22 5:28 AM (GMT-07:00)

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Subject: Re: [Haustus:77125] Francis: “And those who profit from war and the arms trade are criminals who kill humanity...

Whereas I am inclined to think that this, with proper qualification, is absolutely right.

"it is a mistake to speak about the “aggressor” and the “victim” in “the same categories.”

George

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[haustusstevemcclure]

Gawd, George, I cringe just a little bit when I see just how self-congratulatory I can so often be.

I can see what may be a conceptual truth while also knowing that I myself don't usually live up to the demands of that truth.

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