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Sondra Pevy
Last year, when Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom was released, there were concerns raised about the game's $70 USD price tag. It followed with Nintendo mentioning how pricing of its new releases would be based on a "case-by-case basis". Now, the latest game that seems to be generating some discussion about its pricing is Donkey Kong Country Returns HD.
To help sell this third version of Donkey Kong Country Returns, Nintendo has mentioned how the Switch release will include not only the Wii levels but also the additional ones from the 3DS game. It's also been highlighted by sites like 'DK Vine' how there have been "some minor graphical tweaks" and water effects have received a "dramatic glow-up" in this high-definition outing.
When Donkey Kong Country Returns originally debuted on the Nintendo Wii in 2010, it was well-received by critics and fans alike. The 3DS version also did a good job delivering the whole package and a little bit more with 3D effects, a new mode, and some new stages to discover. This led to the sequel Tropical Freeze, launching on the Wii U and returning for Switch.
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It is a really fantastic game but even the original Wii game didn't cost 60 dollars. Most of the highest profile first party games were around 50. Third party stuff got marked down to 30 pretty often and the shovel ware could be found in bargain bins for 20 bucks.
How is this the same price as TTYD? TTYD was a full remake with some new stuff and great QoL changes. This looks like a port with some new textures and some effects taken away. Pretty ridiculous that these both have the same price tag. Original TTYD is even a $100+ game sometimes, yet Original DK Returns is around $30 I believe.
We can not like it, but they are pricing it that way because they can get it. Switch games are selling. This will sell at that price, so why shouldn't it be. If you think it's too much, then you don't have to get it.
I completely relate. I had moved into my first apartment with my highschool girlfriend, and we waited in line at WalMart til midnight on launch day for our Wii. Stayed up all night playing Wii Sports and Twilight Princess.
Quite frankly, I'm insulted on behalf of Retro and NST. Mostly NST cause they remade Donkey Kong 5 completely from scratch AND added 2 more worlds, but that was only $50. Not to belittle the work Forever is putting in, but it's nothing compared to the absolute miracle Retro 3.0 was able to pull out with Prime. This is FIFA levels of "cause we can get away with it" customer loyalty abuse.
there was a time when a company like Nintendo specifically would VALUE something like customer goodwill itself, but clearly we have all outlived that era and they are on to something else.
mmm. I have this game on 3DS. I never got the Wii version because I have a disdain for waggle inputs. But I never really got very far in the 3DS version anyway.
I was thinking of getting this version, but certainly not at full price. Might as well just play the version I already have, or wait until I can find it secondhand for cheaper. Or just not bother at all, i dunno. People seem to have mixed opinions about this game anyway.
It sure would be better if it was a lower price, but a casual reminder that the main target audience for these re-releases are people who haven't touched a Nintendo console for a long time (if ever), not those who definitely bought the original version; for this broader audience, it may as well be a new game.
Of course it is full price. They charge full price because they can. It's a popular IP and people will still buy it even if it's just a cheap HD port of a Wii game with a couple of extras. Just look at Skyward Sword. Metroid Prime was cheaper because it doesn't sell nearly as well.
I'm not buying any of these full price remasters of Wii and 3DS games because I hate the precedent it sets, but millions will, regardless of the price and the minimal effort. It's a license to print money, so I get it in a business sense, but I will never support it with a single dime.
@-wc- I'm not saying that people can't be upset about it, but when they ask WHY it is that price, it's because the market will support that price. Actually, if enough people refuse to buy it at that price then they will lower it - I just don't think it's going to happen.
@MovieBuff Of course they shouldn't ...but they will. If people stop buying these basic remasters by the millions and their enormous profits drop, though ...maybe we'll get some better efforts and perhaps even a new Nintendo Selects line? One can dream ...
Again, it's not rocket science. Someone makes something and sells it for what they think it's worth. It's how capitalism works. Did gamer IQs drop this generation or something? Sorry Metroid fans, Nintendo don't think it's a huge seller. And if we are being honest, compared to Mario and friends...Samus isn't. Nintendo's commercial team are as on top of their game as their artists are lol.
I'm not entirely sure how I would price this game. It's easy for me to sit here and say it should be $30 or $40 based on its age, but I don't what kind of work was done in the background to get it to this state.
I'm starting to think upconverting games from 3DS, which I know this is the Wii verison with those levels, might present challenges from resolution, file format, control schemes and other things I'm not aware of under the hood. The original version had motion controls, so I know control mapping actions that could have been gestures might not be an easy task.
I imagine this will result in the game selling less and Nintendo will not take the right lesson. They will think DK is dead when in fact their pricing sucks a ton. May have grabbed the game if it was $40
Disappointing but not surprising. They legit feel like these lazy remakes/remasters are worth the same as a fully new and original game. Whoever's deciding the pricing structure feels woefully out of touch.
You have to remember that this is Nintendo; they charged (and re-charged whenever a new console was released or even when someone had to replace a broken one since purchases weren't linked to accounts) a premium price...$4.99 NES, $7.99 and up for SNES, $9.99 and up for N64 titles...back on the Virtual Console before it occurred to them that they could bank even more $$$ by using a subscription model where users no longer could actually own the games to begin with. For decades they've been the ONLY publisher to rigidly fix not only the prices of new games at brick-and-mortar stores but ensured the used prices stayed very close to the new. Whether Nintendo actually believes their retro games (and now remakes/remasters) are genuinely worth the prices they ask or not, they are intent on maintaining that "aura" with consumers.
@GrailUK Considering that other remakes have run the gamut in terms of sales we don't need to see what this one does (although it probably will sell a few million because people mindlessly buying based on IP popularity). Nintendo just being greedy and the pricing structure has nothing to do with sales potential.
Can't justify buying this again so I will stick to the 3DS version. As some others have said though, we need a new DK game. Tropical Freeze was about ten years ago now (preferably something new though, something like Odyssey would be nice)
@PikminMarioKirby I mean almost every Switch game is $60. Far from the first time they've done this even with the barebones remasters. That being said, keep on complaining about it (and even better, not freaking buying into this chintzy crap), then maybe they'll actually quit it.
@Bolt_Strike Well, I disagree that the price doesn't reflect sales potential. If something is going to be high demand, it usually puts the price up, That's how it works. Look how AAA titles get discounted after their initial first few weeks of hype sales. Now granted, some folk have played it, owned it etc and see less value in it. But I'm afraid the market is much much bigger than those folk. And I'm all for artists being able to sell their work for what they deem fit for as long as possible. And the fact it's 60 quid should show anyone with a brain that GC and Wii titles are years away from being a subscriber service. But anyone that says "everyone has played it already" or "Nintendo wnt us to buy it again" can't see much further than their PC monitor. I don't think they are asking anyone to buy it again, just asking people to buy it full stop. And there are a lot of people who will.
Are the changes significant enough to warrant paying full RRP in my opinion no in fact by all accounts this HD version is worse than the Wii version missing visual effects and is it really all the enhanced.
I still have a Wii connected to a retrotink so I'm very happy with my older consoles and games being upscaled I don't see a need to buy this version but if I didn't I would still hold out for a cheap second hand copy because the care simply isn't there on this one which is a shame because out of returns and tropical freeze I say returns is the better game.
But also the value of the game is overpriced when you're reselling a Wii game with basic visual tweaks and a game like tears of the kingdom for near the same price (actually dk cost more in my region) you can't tell me the same amount of effort went into remastering dk as did totks physics
I'm sure it's in part a voucher thing. Makes those that go the voucher route think they're getting a deal when in reality Nintendo is squeezing another sale out of you by forcing the pair for $100. I'm sure they're plenty happy getting $50 for their titles.
İ do not care that much. Yess, İ have played the game and this game is such a good game.
Nintendo can do it $60. İt looks awesome in HD. Nintendo have done it good. İ want to pick it again even in this price. İ do not remember that much about the game anymore. 1 of the reason it is that. That İ want to play it again. İt was a awesome game to.