CLC elections January 2023

Andrew Lelechenko

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Dec 11, 2022, 2:25:09 PM12/11/22

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Dear CLC members,

The terms of chessai, Cale and Emily are ending Jan 2023, so it is time for a new call of nominations.

I’m going to post a call similar to https://discourse.haskell.org/t/clc-election-january-2022/3839 with a deadline for applications Feb 1, unless there are other suggestions.

Historically nominations were gathered at core-librari...@haskell.org, but I think it was not made clear to participants that this makes them publicly accessible. While I like the extreme transparency of this approach, I cannot think of any other committee with such process. This time I’d prefer to funnel applications to a separate email address and share them with other CLC members privately. Opinions?

As usual, outgoing members are eligible for re-nomination and can cast their own vote.

chessai, Cale, Emily, I’d be grateful if you notify of your intention to stand for another term at your earliest convenience, as this affects voting procedures.

Best regards,

Andrew

Cale Gibbard

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Dec 12, 2022, 3:20:34 PM12/12/22

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I could go for another term.

Another possibility if we like the transparency and want people to expect their nominations to be public would be just to make a Github issue for it, and let everyone put their nominations in the comments.

- Cale

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chessai

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Dec 12, 2022, 6:33:38 PM12/12/22

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I would also like to go for another term.

I second Cale's suggestion for public nominations.

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Andrew Lelechenko

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Dec 16, 2022, 3:06:04 PM12/16/22

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I’m opposed to a GitHub issue with nominations, this is not a vanity fair. I’m worried that many contestants might be too shy to participate in such environment.

If I’m the only one wishing more private nominations process, let’s stick to the precedent and collect applications at core-librari...@haskell.org

Any more suggestions or comments? Otherwise I’ll post a call for nominations somewhere next week.

Best regards,

Andrew

Tom Ellis

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Dec 17, 2022, 3:39:52 AM12/17/22

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I also would prefer the nominations to be private. That is how they
are handled for Haskell.org committee, HF board, and (I think) GHC
steering committee.

Tom

On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 08:05:44PM +0000, Andrew Lelechenko wrote:
> I’m opposed to a GitHub issue with nominations, this is not a vanity fair. I’m worried that many contestants might be too shy to participate in such environment.
>

> If I’m the only one wishing more private nominations process, let’s stick to the precedent and collect applications at core-librari...@haskell.org <mailto:core-librari...@haskell.org>

>
> Any more suggestions or comments? Otherwise I’ll post a call for nominations somewhere next week.
>
> Best regards,
> Andrew
>
> > On 12 Dec 2022, at 23:33, chessai <chess...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I would also like to go for another term.
> >
> > I second Cale's suggestion for public nominations.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 12, 2022, 14:20 Cale Gibbard <cgib...@gmail.com <mailto:cgib...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> I could go for another term.
> >>
> >> Another possibility if we like the transparency and want people to expect their nominations to be public would be just to make a Github issue for it, and let everyone put their nominations in the comments.
> >>
> >> - Cale
> >>
> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 at 14:25, Andrew Lelechenko <andrew.l...@gmail.com <mailto:andrew.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> Dear CLC members,
> >>>
> >>> The terms of chessai, Cale and Emily are ending Jan 2023, so it is time for a new call of nominations.
> >>>
> >>> I’m going to post a call similar to https://discourse.haskell.org/t/clc-election-january-2022/3839 with a deadline for applications Feb 1, unless there are other suggestions.
> >>>

> >>> Historically nominations were gathered at core-librari...@haskell.org <mailto:core-librari...@haskell.org>, but I think it was not made clear to participants that this makes them publicly accessible. While I like the extreme transparency of this approach, I cannot think of any other committee with such process. This time I’d prefer to funnel applications to a separate email address and share them with other CLC members privately. Opinions? <>

Andrew Lelechenko

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Dec 17, 2022, 9:22:44 AM12/17/22

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So 2 of us are in favour of public nominations and 2 are in favour of private nominations.

Emily, Melanie, what’s your opinion?

Best regards,
Andrew

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Emily Pillmore

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Dec 18, 2022, 1:27:32 PM12/18/22

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I'm in favor of private nominations.

With respect to whether or not i'm going to renew, I think I'll stand for another term :)

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 7:22 AM, Andrew Lelechenko <andrew.l...@gmail.com> wrote:

So 2 of us are in favour of public nominations and 2 are in favour of private nominations.
Emily, Melanie, what’s your opinion?
Best regards,
Andrew

On 17 Dec 2022, at 08:39, Tom Ellis <tom-core-libraries-committee@jaguarpaw.co.uk> wrote:
I also would prefer the nominations to be private. That is how they are handled for Haskell.org committee, HF board, and (I think) GHC steering committee.
Tom
On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 08:05:44PM +0000, Andrew Lelechenko wrote:

I’m opposed to a GitHub issue with nominations, this is not a vanity fair. I’m worried that many contestants might be too shy to participate in such environment.

If I’m the only one wishing more private nominations process, let’s stick to the precedent and collect applications at core-libraries-committee@haskell.org <mailto:core-libraries-committee@haskell.org>

Any more suggestions or comments? Otherwise I’ll post a call for nominations somewhere next week.
Best regards,
Andrew

On 12 Dec 2022, at 23:33, chessai <chessai1996@gmail.com> wrote:
I would also like to go for another term.
I second Cale's suggestion for public nominations.
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022, 14:20 Cale Gibbard <cgibbard@gmail.com <mailto:cgibbard@gmail.com>> wrote:

I could go for another term.
Another possibility if we like the transparency and want people to expect their nominations to be public would be just to make a Github issue for it, and let everyone put their nominations in the comments.
- Cale
On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 at 14:25, Andrew Lelechenko <andrew.lelechenko@gmail.com <mailto:andrew.lelechenko@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear CLC members,
The terms of chessai, Cale and Emily are ending Jan 2023, so it is time for a new call of nominations.
I’m going to post a call similar to https://discourse.haskell.org/t/clc-election-january-2022/3839 with a deadline for applications Feb 1, unless there are other suggestions.

Historically nominations were gathered at core-libraries-committee@haskell.org <mailto:core-libraries-committee@haskell.org>, but I think it was not made clear to participants that this makes them publicly accessible. While I like the extreme transparency of this approach, I cannot think of any other committee with such process. This time I’d prefer to funnel applications to a separate email address and share them with other CLC members privately. Opinions? <>

As usual, outgoing members are eligible for re-nomination and can cast their own vote.
chessai, Cale, Emily, I’d be grateful if you notify of your intention to stand for another term at your earliest convenience, as this affects voting procedures.

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Andrew Lelechenko

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Dec 20, 2022, 2:43:11 PM12/20/22

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Melanie, if we don’t hear from you until tomorrow, I’ll assume you abstained. Sorry for deadline, but I’d like to sort this out before Christmas.

Current count is three votes in favour of private nominations and two votes in favour of public ones.

Best regards,

Andrew

Cale Gibbard

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Dec 21, 2022, 4:42:09 PM12/21/22

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I should also say it doesn't bother me either way how the nominations are conducted. Private nominations are also fine with me, so if it helps us get through the process faster, go ahead. :)

On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 14:43, Andrew Lelechenko <andrew.l...@gmail.com> wrote:

Melanie, if we don’t hear from you until tomorrow, I’ll assume you abstained. Sorry for deadline, but I’d like to sort this out before Christmas.

Current count is three votes in favour of private nominations and two votes in favour of public ones.

Best regards,

Andrew

On 18 Dec 2022, at 18:27, Emily Pillmore <emi...@cohomolo.gy> wrote:

I'm in favor of private nominations.

With respect to whether or not i'm going to renew, I think I'll stand for another term :)

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 7:22 AM, Andrew Lelechenko <andrew.l...@gmail.com> wrote:

So 2 of us are in favour of public nominations and 2 are in favour of private nominations.
Emily, Melanie, what’s your opinion?
Best regards,
Andrew

On 17 Dec 2022, at 08:39, Tom Ellis <tom-core-libra...@jaguarpaw.co.uk> wrote:
I also would prefer the nominations to be private. That is how they are handled for Haskell.org committee, HF board, and (I think) GHC steering committee.
Tom
On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 08:05:44PM +0000, Andrew Lelechenko wrote:

I’m opposed to a GitHub issue with nominations, this is not a vanity fair. I’m worried that many contestants might be too shy to participate in such environment.

If I’m the only one wishing more private nominations process, let’s stick to the precedent and collect applications at core-librari...@haskell.org <mailto:core-librari...@haskell.org>

Any more suggestions or comments? Otherwise I’ll post a call for nominations somewhere next week.
Best regards,
Andrew

On 12 Dec 2022, at 23:33, chessai <chess...@gmail.com> wrote:
I would also like to go for another term.
I second Cale's suggestion for public nominations.
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022, 14:20 Cale Gibbard <cgib...@gmail.com <mailto:cgib...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I could go for another term.
Another possibility if we like the transparency and want people to expect their nominations to be public would be just to make a Github issue for it, and let everyone put their nominations in the comments.
- Cale
On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 at 14:25, Andrew Lelechenko <andrew.l...@gmail.com <mailto:andrew.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear CLC members,
The terms of chessai, Cale and Emily are ending Jan 2023, so it is time for a new call of nominations.
I’m going to post a call similar to https://discourse.haskell.org/t/clc-election-january-2022/3839 with a deadline for applications Feb 1, unless there are other suggestions.

Historically nominations were gathered at core-librari...@haskell.org <mailto:core-librari...@haskell.org>, but I think it was not made clear to participants that this makes them publicly accessible. While I like the extreme transparency of this approach, I cannot think of any other committee with such process. This time I’d prefer to funnel applications to a separate email address and share them with other CLC members privately. Opinions? <>

As usual, outgoing members are eligible for re-nomination and can cast their own vote.
chessai, Cale, Emily, I’d be grateful if you notify of your intention to stand for another term at your earliest convenience, as this affects voting procedures.

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Andrew Lelechenko

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Dec 21, 2022, 6:43:17 PM12/21/22

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I’ll go with private nominations then, will publish a call for nominations shortly.

Best regards,

Andrew

Andrew Lelechenko

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Jan 30, 2023, 2:58:58 AM1/30/23

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Dear CLC members,

We received 5 nominations so far. I’ll forward all of them to you privately at the same time, once the application window closes.

Given that all of outgoing members are standing for re-election, I’d like to exclude the possibility of not acquiring any new members at all, because such outcome would enforce a view of CLC as a rigid cabal. Thus I suggest we increase the size of CLC to 7 members in total, so that at least one new person joins.

Because of members standing for re-election we cannot hold an open ballot. I suggest we go for a ranked vote: each voter will put all candidates in their preference order and send the ballot to clc.nomina...@gmail.com for me to select Condorcet winners (potentially using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schulze_method to resolve uncertainties).

I’m sorry for a short notice. If you are unhappy with either of suggestions (expanding CLC to 7 members + Condorcet ranked vote), please reply asap.

Best regards,

Andrew

Melanie Brown

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Feb 4, 2023, 11:51:08 AM2/4/23

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Hi,

For some reason I haven't been receiving these emails to my inbox. I received the one Andrew sent this morning with all the candidates' profiles, but none of these have been making it. Not entirely sure why, I'll look into it.

Cheers

Melanie

Andrew Lelechenko

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Feb 10, 2023, 8:11:17 PM2/10/23

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Hi all,

Congratulations to Moritz Angermann, Matt Parsons, Dmitrii Kovanikov and Julian Ospald, who've been elected to serve as new CLC members.

Huge thanks to our outgoing members Cale, chessai and Emily for years of dedicated service to the Haskell community, I hope to see you around!

Best regards,
Andrew

Emily Pillmore

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Feb 10, 2023, 8:44:59 PM2/10/23

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Hello All,

Congrats to our new members! Best of luck with the decision making.

Cheers,

Emily

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