[Haskell-cafe] Questions on list administration
Karthick Gururaj
I recently joined Haskell group and wanted to share a few points.
First, I came to Haskell cafe from google groups (groups.google.com ->
search for Haskell). Two groups are listed: fa.haskell and
haskell-cafe. I became a "member" of Haskell Cafe via the google
groups interface (the operation was successful according to google).
When I posted a message, I got an automated email (within a few
seconds, so I think there was no human moderation):
You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are
being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
haskell-c...@haskell.org.
I wrote to the email address mentioned and didn't get any response.
Funny thing is, google reports that my post was successful, and my
post was "visible" on google groups even after I signed out from my
google account.
I next wrote to the group owner, again from the google groups
interface (there is an option to "send email to the owner"). No
response here as well.
I then went to Haskell.org -> Mailing lists and saw there are atleast
three lists of immediate relevance, including one for beginners. The
website also describes the posting guidelines and other information.
Very useful. I would have stuck to asking questions on the beginner's
group if I had known earlier..
Can I ask a couple of changes be done to help others like me?
a. In google groups ->
https://groups.google.com/group/haskell-cafe/about -> add a link to
the haskell.org -> Mailing lists for more info.
b. Let users join from google groups interface, or if this is not
possible, mention that in the "about" page
c. Change the contents of the reject email (reproduced above) to
include the following:
"If you want to subscribe to the Haskell Cafe mailing list, please
visit http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe"
Aside: the Haskell Cafe mailing list page (at
http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe) has a dead link
at the bottom of the page. The "Overview of all haskell.org mailing
lists" points to http://www.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo (404
error) instead of http://haskell.org/mailman/listinfo.
Thanks!
Warm regards,
Karthick
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Ketil Malde
> You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
> been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are
> being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
> haskell-c...@haskell.org.
As it says on the Google "about" page, only members may post to the
list. Ideally, the Google groups interface should add you as a member,
or otherwise perform some magic to allow you to post, but perhaps this
requires more than sufficiently advanced technology...
> Funny thing is, google reports that my post was successful, and my
> post was "visible" on google groups even after I signed out from my
> google account.
Possibly, posts via Google goes via a cache?
> Can I ask a couple of changes be done to help others like me?
> a. In google groups ->
> https://groups.google.com/group/haskell-cafe/about -> add a link to
> the haskell.org -> Mailing lists for more info.
I don't know how Google maintains this page, and I'm not sure whoever is
the list owner does either. If you can find out how to modify this, I'm
sure nobody would object to adding that information.
> b. Let users join from google groups interface, or if this is not
> possible, mention that in the "about" page
Yes, but this, too, is an issue with Google groups, and not the Haskell
mailing lists.
> c. Change the contents of the reject email (reproduced above) to
> include the following:
> "If you want to subscribe to the Haskell Cafe mailing list, please
> visit http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe"
Well, you don't have to use the web interface to subscribe, but some
information like that would be useful, and I believe this is easy to set
up (we're using Mailman, I believe?).
-k
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