Re: Check-in regarding summer plans (DINC - Discovery in Nature and Culture China Program)

[Ling Yang]

六月的项目估计很麻烦  但是七月份的项目报名情况还是不错的。

瑞雪没有联系上

我说一下我的意见

既然他们的关注点是哈佛的问题  咱们就没有必要弄太多的东西  说的越多越容易犯错

钱的问题就说是谷的那个公司支持的
国内的学术支持是中国人民大学SIFE协会

跟哈佛的关系就是  努力联系  但是没有明确的结果    
然后表达一个良好的态度  如果有任何的问题  不用哈佛的名义

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Scarlett Yin <yura...@college.harvard.edu> wrote:

response讨论的如何？

另，六月线路还准备弄吗？如哈佛不满意我们擅自冠名，很大可能要我们call off the whole thing. 这样的话，我们还出团吗？我要订机票的说

- Scarlett 

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在 Jun 8, 2012，7:29 PM，Lydia <ld...@college.harvard.edu> 写道：

Yep we're screwed.... Thy contacted me as a researcher so now we know their take on both sides.....However, I don't think Harvard rly cares? I mean, judging by their tone...


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From: "Diaz, Eva" <eva_...@harvard.edu>
Date: 9 June, 2012 2:24:33 GMT+08:00
To: Lydia <ld...@college.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Mount, Robin" <rmo...@fas.harvard.edu>, "Fell, Katherine" <kf...@fas.harvard.edu>
Subject: RE: Check-in regarding summer plans (DINC - Discovery in Nature and Culture China Program)

Dear Lydia,

 

Thank you for responding to our request to be in touch about your summer plans.

 

We reached out to you because our office was contacted with concerns about the Discovery in Nature and Culture China Program you will apparently be participating on.

 

We have not been able to contact anyone at the program to verify its legitimacy. So far, as we have tried to ascertain if this program has any Harvard affiliation, we have found no one at Harvard who knows anything about this program.

 

This program is not sponsored by Harvard and participation is at your own risk since it has not been vetted by Harvard. Beyond identifying a few students apparently involved in mounting the program, and who originally sent recruiting information over a House Listserv to recruit Harvard students, we do not have any evidence that this program has a Harvard affiliation.

 

We urge you to consult very carefully with your parents as you prepare for the program. Among other matters of potential concern, we have taken note of the potential for harsh expedition conditions, and encourage you to do your due diligence as to all health, safety and security matters related to this undertaking.

 

Sincerely,

 

Eva

 

Eva Diaz

Associate Director, International Education

Office of Career Services

Harvard University, Faculty of Arts and Sciences

77 Dunster Street

Cambridge, MA 02138

 

Phone: (617) 384-7893

Fax: (617) 496-2563

URL: www.fas.harvard.edu/oip

Skype: eva_diaz56

 

On 2012-06-08, at 23:44, "Fell, Katherine" <kf...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote:

Hi Lydia,

 

                You received the below email asking you to contact us because you were listed by the Discovery in Nature and Culture China Program as a participant and research leader for this summer in China. Please let us know if these records are incorrect, and if you have applied for the program for this summer. Many apologies for the confusion if you are not a participant. Thank you for your timely response.

 

Best,

Katie Fell

Student Services & Programming Coordinator, Office of Career Services

Harvard University

Faculty of Arts & Sciences

54 Dunster Street

Cambridge, MA 02138

(617) 495-2595 (ph)

(617) 495-3584 (fax)

Find me on LinkedIn!

 

 

From: Lydia [mailto:ld...@college.harvard.edu]
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 11:41 AM
To: Fell, Katherine
Cc: Mount, Robin; Diaz, Eva
Subject: Re: Check-in regarding summer plans (DINC - Discovery in Nature and Culture China Program)

 

Hi,

I don't know if I even should be receiving this email cause I'm already in China and I'm with my parents! What sort of check-in is this for...?
Thank you,

Lydia

 

 

 

On 2012-06-08, at 23:19, "Fell, Katherine" <kf...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote:

Hello,

 

                I am contacting you from the Office of Career Services at Harvard University regarding your summer travel and experience plans. Please contact our office immediately to schedule a phone, Skype, or in person check-in regarding your summer travel plans to China. Your contact names are myself, Robin Mount, or Eva Diaz and we can be reached at (617) 495-2596, or by “Replying All” to this email – looking forward to speaking with you!

 

Best,

Katie Fell

Student Services & Programming Coordinator, Office of Career Services

Harvard University

Faculty of Arts & Sciences

54 Dunster Street

Cambridge, MA 02138

(617) 495-9638 (ph)

(617) 495-3584 (fax)

Find me on LinkedIn!

 

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[Harvard]

如果动身的话咱们就去一个和她一起走，费用从七月的里面划过去

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在 2012-6-9，20:51，Scarlett Yin <yura...@college.harvard.edu> 写道：

六月明确答覆是能去还是不能去？

六月韩国妹子已经准备动身了诶

- Scarlett 

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[Yuchen Gu]

我的公司支持的什么。。。？？？

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Scarlett Yin <yura...@college.harvard.edu> wrote:

人不要紧，学生哪里来啊......师资哪里来啊.....作秀哪里来阿.....

- Scarlett 

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[Yuchen Gu]

我们应该就是a summer plan that combines harvard students with chinese high school students. we never listed our name as harvard dinc, but as "dinc". we have not used the harvard name in any way

[Yuchen Gu]

yea we should apologize for it and make it clear that we had no intention of using harvard name, the only reason we included is because we had harvard students participating. make it clear that we want to bring harvard students to china to explore and connect with high school students. it is out of good intention

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Scarlett Yin <yura...@college.harvard.edu> wrote:

No no, 我们brochure上和网站上用的都是harvard DINC

与其辩解不如道歉？

- Scarlett 

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[Yuchen Gu]

apologize for the confusion but not for the mistake!!! because if you apologize for the mistake, then they can take your word for it saying that you did illegal stuff and we could be sued!!! apologize for the confusion

[Yuchen Gu]

I thought they want to do a video or phone check in

Just remember a few keypoints

1. We organize and participate in this in aim of bringing Harvard students to explore China and communicate with local high school students

2. We had harvard name only because there are only Harvard students participating from the US side. It was open only to Harvard collee students. Never intended to brand Harvard 

3. It's a research program and academic support is received from local Chinese universities

On Saturday, June 9, 2012, Scarlett Yin wrote:

要不谷大神写个draft？我纽约住美领馆，居然没有网络

- Scarlett 

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[Yuchen Gu]

Dear ...,

   Thank you very much for your consideration and your concern, I feel really connected to the Harvard Community in your email outreach. Regarding the program, I am both a participant and an organizer; the program aims to bring Harvard College students to China to explore Tibet and Yunnan area and connect them with local high school students. We do research and receive academic help from local universities. The program, however, never intended to borrow the Harvard name. The only reason you see Harvard included is because all US participants are Harvard College students. I sincerely apologize for such confusion, and please be assured that this program is a legit and well planned one. Thank you for your understanding and confidence and sorry again for your troubling. 

Best,

Scarlett

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Scarlett Yin <yura...@college.harvard.edu> wrote:

说好邮件回他的，帮忙draft下吧

- Scarlett 

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