[Harp-L] 12th position

[John F. Potts]

Rick,
Can you spell out the F blues scale in 12th position on a C
harmonica for us?
JP

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[Rick Dempster]

OK....you arksed for it! Starting on the 5th at hole 1B:

1B 1ob 2D// 3D/// 3D/ (3D; the flat 5) 4B 4ob 5D 6D/ 6ob (7D; b5) 7B 8B/ 9D 9od 10B//

(10B/; b5) 10B

.....made the flat fives optional, just to distinguish the pentatonic from the .......hexatonic? sexatonic?
hmmm...sexatonic? so it is good for you!

RD
PS Hope I got it right!

>>> "John F. Potts" <hv...@bex.net> 8/10/2008 12:15 >>>

[John F. Potts]

Rick,
Since you are such a fountain of 12th position knowledge, can you
also spell out the F major pentatonic (country) scale in 12th
position for us?
Thanks,
JP

[Phil...@aol.com]

Never underestimate the power of the right book. The C Harmonica Book by
James Major (Mel Bay, $7.95) covers evertthing you wanted to know about postions
1-6 and 12. The 8 1/2 x 11 inch 48-page book has drawings, tablature, and
even a full page glossary of music/harmonica terms.
There is a book for every key ($95.40 for all 12).

I did a rave review in American Harmonica Newsmagazine when the C Book (and
rest of series) first came out in 2005. I think it is arguably the most
complete harmonica reference book on the market today. It not only covers more
stuff than other books, it covers it in an easily understandable manner.

The chief advantage with the C Book (and the others) is that the player can
SEE at a glance what positions or collections of notes to play a song or riff
in on any given harmonica.

This is very harmonica friendly. If you can count the holes on your
harmonica, you can follow the directions on how to play blues scales, pentatonic runs
and broken chords (arpeggios).

And what happens when you switch harps? Go buy the book for that key of harp!
Just use three keys of harp? Order those books ahead of time so you are ready
for any problem.

Now, I know there are gifted players on this list who can play anything,
anytime, on any harp -- but there are a limited number of them. More people are
learning to OB all the time. But the rest of us have to resort to bent notes or
valved harps or special tuned harps. That's where this book(s) comes in.

Here's the blurb from the Mel Bay web site:

"Finally! There is a definitive reference guide available for harmonicas in
each and every key. This ground breaking series unlocks the musical power of
the 10-hole major diatonic harmonica. One key at a time, each is designed to
present detailed musical information for beginners, intermediate and advanced
players who are either music readers or non-reading players. Learn the notes,
intervals, bends, overbends, dyads, chords, arpeggios, modes and scales that are
specific to each harmonica key. There is also a special section in each book
showing other types of diatonic harmonicas and the variations unique to them
like extreme bending, low-tuned, octave and tremolo-tuned models and more.

"Have you ever wondered which harmonica is the best one to use when you're
ready to play a tune? Have you ever sat with a lap full of harmonicas
desperately trying one after another, searching for the key that has all of the right
notes? The Complete 10-hole Diatonic Harmonica Series is the definitive music
reference guide that resolves those dilemmas and more. The C Harmonica Book is
packed with information about chords, arpeggios, modes, positions, scales,
bends, overbends and basic music theory unique to the 10-hole C major diatonic
harp. Learn how to effectively play blues scales in seven different keys. It's s
imple. If you have a C harmonica you should own the C Harmonica Book."

Phil

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[Rick Dempster]

Hell! Not sure that I know what it is! I guess it's: F A Bb C er....D??....E?? or is it the 'black note scale': F G A C E....? If I know what the word is, I can spell it...just say 'the word'

RD

>>> "John F. Potts" <hv...@bex.net> 9/10/2008 0:52 >>>

[John F. Potts]

> seven different keys. It's simple. If you have a C harmonica you

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[John F. Potts]

Phil,
Thanks. I'd heard of these books, but didn't know if they were
worthwhile. Anyway, I just found out that if you order 4 of them on
Amazon, the 4th one is free!
JP

On Oct 8, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Phil...@aol.com wrote:

> seven different keys. It's simple. If you have a C harmonica you

> Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out!

[John F. Potts]

Rick,
The major pentatonic scale (sometimes called the country scale) is
made up of the following scale degrees: 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, octave (I
think). I can actually figure it out for myself, but i was too lazy
to sit down and do it, so i figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.
JP.

[Rick Dempster]

Michael Rubin beat me to it anyway John. Did you get that? By the way, it is 'the black note scale' - what you get when you play the black notes on a keyboard from F# to D#.
RD

>>> "John F. Potts" <hv...@bex.net> 9/10/2008 11:24 >>>

[fjm]

I received a hand addressed letter from some one at Mel Bay
publications. The combination of address and name is the one I use for
my SPAH membership. Since it is targeted marketing I wonder if the
publisher obtained a list of names and addresses from SPAH. Anyone else
out there get a recent mailing? Are you a SPAH member? I do not rule
out another vector for the information. fjm

[Tim Moyer]

fjm wrote:
> I received a hand addressed letter from some one at Mel Bay
> publications. The combination of address and name is the one
> I use for my SPAH membership. Since it is targeted marketing I
> wonder if the publisher obtained a list of names and addresses
> from SPAH. Anyone else out there get a recent mailing? Are
> you a SPAH member? I do not rule out another vector for the
> information. fjm

SPAH routinely distributes membership lists to members attending the
convention. I don't recall how complete the lists are - whether they
contain complete address information - but it's certainly conceivable
that someone at Mel Bay is a SPAH member and got this list to use to
promote their material to harmonica players directly.

I would think most SPAH members would find this of interest rather
than annoying, since it's harmonica specific. Then again, it is more
paper in the mailbox...

-tim

[Tim Moyer]

It seems strange to me that someone would buy a different book for each
key. I know the note names would change for each different harmonica,
but part of the process should be learning the patterns and
relationships that repeat for each key rather than memorizing the
notes. One book and a Circle of Fifths chart (-maybe-) seems like all
you would need.

-tim

John F. Potts wrote:
> Thanks. I'd heard of these books, but didn't know if they were
> worthwhile. Anyway, I just found out that if you order 4 of
> them on Amazon, the 4th one is free!
>

> > On Oct 8, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Philharpn@... wrote:
>
> Never underestimate the power of the right book. The C Harmonica
> Book by James Major (Mel Bay, $7.95) covers evertthing you wanted
> to know about postions 1-6 and 12.

[Slim Heilpern]

Yes, the list does contain complete address info for most members. I
assume you can ask for your address to be removed if that's your
preference, but I believe it's currently opt-out, not opt-in.

- Slim.

www.slidemanslim.com

[billh...@comcast.net]

Actually I was quite shocked some time ago to see a full listing of SPAH members' names, phone numbers and addresses in a publication/newsletter that was sent around by snail mail. It upset me quite a bit as I did not remember giving permission and I check carefully for those types of things. I declined to re-up my membership after that.

Bill

[Phil...@aol.com]

I have purchased many items over the years from Mel Bay -- and a recent very
large purchase -- and I didn't get a letter. And I have EVEN been a member of
SPAH for several years. Golly, I wonder why I didn't get a letter/?

This reminds me of the time my college roommate suddenly started getting a
subscription to Life magazine. He blamed me because he thought I was the only
one who could spell his last name. Obviously, he was wrong.

Phil

In a message dated 10/9/08 9:13:13 AM, bad...@3hat.org writes:

> I received a hand addressed letter from some one at Mel Bay
> publications.  The combination of address and name is the one I use for
> my SPAH membership.  Since it is targeted marketing I wonder if the
> publisher obtained a list of names and addresses from SPAH.  Anyone else
> out there get a recent mailing?  Are you a SPAH member?  I do not rule
> out another vector for the information.  fjm
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[Dan Berger]

Jones is hard to spell!

[Tom McGovern]

I got one, too. And, shucks, I thought I was kinda special, and had a new harmonica buddy. You mean I was just a SPAH member being junk-mailed!? Mel, Mel, Mel.

Tom McGovern
Richmond, MI

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[Buzz Krantz]

I got one also.
buzz.....

[Joe and Cass Leone]

Phil Phil Duncan is the harmonica 'Laison' at Mel Bay's. He is a
charter member of spah. Mel Bay is a sponsor of spah, and Phil has
given many interesting seminars, and has also played there. I'm
fairly sure that the mailings were meant to be of interest to players
and if not THEM, maybe a player friend of the player addressed whom
doesn't know that these publications exist. (quite true here in S.W.
Florida).

I recently got one of these mailings, and, interesting enough, my
wife Cassie Mae happened to peruse the mailing and got
insulted.....for ME. I didn't get insulted. I was pleased that they
thought enough of me to send it. Once a quilt guild friend of hers
sent her home with a book that her husband thought I might be able to
learn something from. Cassie Mae was again insulted.....for ME,
(she's my biggest fan). The book was written by Tommy Morgan. Again,
I wasn't insulted. So, I think it was all harmless.

smo-joe

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