Request for Mary Guidone - 2011-07-21

[Geo]

Hello Mary,

First, I would like to congratulate the Toho Water Authority on its
recent water test results for Harmony. According to the "Annual
Drinking Water Quality Report 2010", it looks like the long-standing
problems with HAA5s and TTHMs have been resolved. I know that you
folks have been working hard on this issue for a long time. I
sincerely hope that this report means that the problem is finally
resolved. The only negatives on the report pertain to coliform
bacteria and water color. An explanation of these details might be
helpful Mary.

The primary reason for this post is an article broadcast recently on
the channel 9 news:

Homeowners Sue Golf Course Over Polluted Water
( http://www.webcitation.org/60LWDR250 )

I know that Harmony has a large community well. What I don't know is
where the well is located relative to the Harmony Golf Preserve.

While it looks like the DeLand Golf Course problem stems from a now
banned pesticide from the 70's ("dieldren"), what can you say to
reassure Harmony residents that the Harmony water supply has no
possibility of similar pesticide contamination from the Harmony golf
course? What testing (specifically) does Toho do to confirm this?

Thanks!

'Geo

[Mary Rose Guidone]

Good Morning George,

The Public Supply Wells for Harmony are located across the street (E. Irlo Bronson Memorial Highway), (nowhere near the golf course). The Well used to pull water for the golf course and the Wells used to pull water for drinking are completely separate.

Diedrin is not on the list of pesticides that are currently tested. Probably since it was banned 30-40 years ago. Since the Harmony golf course was developed relatively recently, there should not be concern for that specific pesticide. All the pesticides that we last tested for at Harmony were undetected. Please see the list of pesticides that we currently test for below:

CONTAMINANT
2,3,7,8-TCDD (Dioxin)
2,4-D
2,4,5-TP (Silvex)
Alachlor
Atrazine
Benzo(a)pyrene
Carbofuran
Chlordane
Dalapon
Di(2-ethylhexyl)adipate
Di(2-ethylhexyl)phthalate
Dibromochloropropane (DBCP)
Dinoseb
Diquat
Endothall
Endrin
Ethylene dibromide (EDB)
Glyphosate
Heptachlor
Heptachlor epoxide
Hexachlorobenzene
Hexachlorocyclopentadiene
Lindane
Methoxychlor
Oxamyl (vydate)
Pentachlorophenol
Picloram
Polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs)

Coliform Bacteria: we periodically get hits on distribution samples. Typically the Well has a clear sample indicating the issue is not the source water. It's often external contamination: from the hose bib, during sampling, etc. Resamples came back clean.
Color: Tannic/organic waters have a yellow tinge.

Should you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact me.

Thank you,

Mary

[Geo]

Thank you Mary. Your response was timely, comprehensive and reassuring.

Your cooperation and ongoing participation in this public forum as a
representative of our most important public utility is greatly appreciated.

[rescueg...@onebox.com]

Wouldn't it be appropriate to find out what (if any) chemical fertilizers and pesticides the golf course is actually using and test for them specifically instead of (or in addition to) a generic list? 

--
David Leeman
rescueg...@onebox.com - email
201-406-0244

[Geo]

That is an excellent point Dave. Would that be possible Mary?

[Geo]

On second thought, I think that this information might be helpful only if it turns out that the Harmony well is perhaps directly across the street from the golf course.

 

When you say the Harmony well is "nowhere near the golf course", can you be more specific Mary? Is it 50 yards away? 100 yards? Or is it perhaps miles away? If it is indeed miles away, I would think that whatever is being sprayed on the golf course would have no impact, but I really don't know. Perhaps we just need to know the actual distance of the Harmony well from the golf course (and also its distance from residential areas) as well as the minimum distance that the EPA (or some other agency) recommends that a well be placed to avoid being impacted by above ground spraying.

 

Can the spraying of herbicides, pesticides and fertilizers on a golf course (or in a residential area) impact a nearby well that is located even miles away? If there is even even a remote possibility of such an impact by all this spraying, perhaps maintaining a list of locally used chemicals and then testing for them in the Harmony well is indeed the prudent thing to do.

 

Has Toho given any thought to this already Mary?

[Mary Rose Guidone]

Good Afternoon George and David.

 

Thank you for your inquiries concerning the wells in Harmony.   

 

According to the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP) wells shall be located no closer than 100 feet from other sanitary hazards that pose a potentially high risk to ground water quality and public health and shall be located no closer than 50 feet from other sanitary hazards that pose a moderated risk to ground water quality and public health.  According to FDEP fertilizer, herbicide, or pesticide application areas such as golf courses fall under a moderate risk. 

 

Toho wells are located approximately 3,700 feet from the golf course and even further from the residential areas in Harmony.  The common pesticides that would be used by golf courses are on the previously provided list regulated by the FDEP.    

 

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mary Guidone

Toho Water Authority  

[Geo]

Thank you Mary! It is great news that the spraying of chemicals is being done relatively far from the Harmony well. That said, I am sure that folks would still appreciate knowing that all chemicals used on the Harmony Golf Preserve are being tested for by Toho.

 

So I asked Shad Tome, President of Harmony Development Company (owner of the golf course) if he could state with certainty that all of the chemicals used on the golf course are indeed being tested for by the Toho Water Authority. He could not. However, he could assure me that the Harmony Golf Preserve uses only chemicals approved by the FDEP.

 

Mary, assuming that the list you presented below is not exhaustive (ie. some FDEP approved chemicals may not be represented there), would it be possible for you to ask Harmony Development to provide you with a list of chemicals that they are using (or that they have used in the past) that don't appear on your list of chemicals that Toho actually tests for (if any)?

 

It would be good to know for sure that all chemicals being used on the Harmony Golf Preserve are indeed being tested for regularly in the Harmony well.

[Geo]

Mary, there is still one outstanding question on the topic:

Mary, assuming that the list you presented below is not
exhaustive (ie. some FDEP approved chemicals may not be
represented there), would it be possible for you to ask
Harmony Development to provide you with a list of
chemicals that they are using (or that they have used
in the past) that don't appear on your list of
chemicals that Toho actually tests for (if any)?

You have been terrific in researching this issue and responding in a
comprehensive way so far. This is greatly appreciated Mary.

Perhaps this most recent question is somehow unfair. I'm not sure.
Please accept my apologies if this is indeed the case. But from my lay
perspective it seems that whoever is spraying the Harmony Golf
Preserve with chemicals on a regular basis should know exactly what is
being used and what was used in the past. The assumption is that the
developer keeps accurate records.

I can't imagine that it would take but a few minutes to compare the
list of 28 chemicals that the Toho Water Authority tests for (the list
that Mary provided) to the list of FDEP approved chemicals used by
Harmony Development Company to manage its golf course. Then it's just
a matter of reporting which chemicals (if any) are not currently being
tested for by Toho.

Perhaps Commission Fred Hawkins can offer another perspective on this
matter. I know that this is not really Fred's area, but his opinion
would be valued none-the-less.

Do you think that this request is fair and reasonable Fred?

> rescuegreyho...@onebox.com - email

[rescueg...@onebox.com]

What about the high school?  They have considerable grass areas including ball fields and they are on the same side of 192 as the water treatment plant so they are closer.  What chemicals do they use, and are there any that they use that are not on TOHO's lists?

--
David Leeman
rescueg...@onebox.com - email

[Mary Rose Guidone]

Good Afternoon,

As with the golf course Harmony high school is located several hundred feet from our wells (we cannot give exact locations of the wells due to Homeland Security). The Floridan aquifer (our drinking water source), is not susceptible to normal chemical application on golf courses, playing fields, or other public access areas.

I can obtain a list from the Harmony Golf course and contact the school for a list of the chemicals they currently use to treat their landscape. However please keep in mind there may be chemicals Toho does not currently test for on that list because either they do not pose a threat to water quality or they have not been deemed by the EPA/FDEP to meet the requirements for water quality testing.

The chemical compounds for which TWA and other water utilities test are determined by the EPA and/or FDEP. A specific chemical is added to the list based upon research establishing both significant occurrence in raw water sources and health effects related to the ingestion of the chemical in drinking water. There could be chemicals being used on the Harmony golf course and other golf courses around the country that are not on the list of chemicals required for testing by EPA because the chemical has not been found to occur in water sources and related health effects have not been established. EPA is required and does under the Safe Drinking Water Act routinely review the various chemicals being used for a number of applications to determine if new chemicals should be added to the testing and monitoring.

To go back to earlier discussions I would like to explain in more detail in the difference between Deland and Harmony. There is a significant difference between the geology of the area around Harmony and that in the area of the contamination in Deland. In the Harmony area between the surficial aquifer and the upper Floridan aquifer there is a significant clay layer, commonly called hardpan, which acts as an aquiclude or barrier between the two aquifers and to a great degree seals off the surficial aquifer from the upper Floridan aquifer. The upper Floridan aquifer is the source of the drinking water. Very little if any water from the surficial aquifer can make it into the upper Floridan aquifer in the Harmony area. In the Deland area there is connectivity between the surficial aquifer and the upper Floridan aquifer which allowed contamination from the surface to migrate to the upper Floridan aquifer and to the individual wells.

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Thank you.

Mary

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From: harm...@googlegroups.com [mailto:harm...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Geo

Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 7:51 AM
To: HarmonyFL

[Geo]

Your cooperation with this is greatly appreciated Mary. Any information that
you can provide only helps to assuage any lingering concerns.

Mary wrote:

I can obtain a list from the Harmony Golf course and
contact the school for a list of the chemicals they
currently use to treat their landscape.

This will be a good addition to the list of chemicals that you have already
provided Mary. Thank you! Please post this information as two separate
lists, if you will, one for the Harmony Golf Preserve and one for Harmony
High School.

Mary wrote:

However please keep in mind there may be chemicals Toho
does not currently test for on that list because either
they do not pose a threat to water quality or they have
not been deemed by the EPA/FDEP to meet the
requirements for water quality testing.

I suspected that this might be the case. While I don't think that any of us
are in a position to second guess the EPA/FDEP, I am sure that we can all
agree that it would still be good to know what's out there and what's not
being tested for.

So perhaps two more lists would also be helpful Mary. We already have list
#1 (one that you provided, thank you). You will also soon be providing list
#2 (Harmony Golf Preserve) and list #3 (Harmony High School).

Here is what I would suggest:

List #4 can be chemicals from list #2 and list #3 that Toho IS testing for.

List #5 can be chemicals from list #2 and list #3 that Toho IS NOT testing
for.

Please suggest an alternative approach if you find this approach
unacceptable for any reason Mary.

[Mary Rose Guidone]

Good Morning George,

The wells are within the guidelines of the EPA/FDEP regulations and are not located directly across from the golf course or next to the school. Approximate distant and guidelines are available in previous post.

After further consideration and since the guidelines for golf course and/or landscape chemical treatment are outside the prevue of the Toho Water Authority oversight, I have decided to rescind my offer to contact the golf course and the school. The original concerns have been addressed and explained. I believe Toho has been proactive in explaining any questions relating to the Water Treatment and Distribution. Unfortunately, this is outside my area of expertise.

[Geo]

Mary wrote:

I have decided to rescind my offer to contact
the golf course and the school.

Well this is very disappointing Mary. But honestly, it is not really
surprising. When the tough questions get asked, the not-so-tough get going.

I suspected that Brian Wheeler or someone else at Toho would override your
kind offer to help us better understand our water situation. I am guessing
that there are many more chemicals not tested for from the Harmony Golf
Preserve than we can possibly imagine.

I am also guessing that its the position of the Toho Water Authority that
Harmony residents should just "hope for the best" when it comes to what may
or may not be in our water.

Here is a recent article from the Orlando Sentinel about Harmony's
long-standing water problems (see "Some residents worried as state tells
Harmony its drinking water must be safer",
http://www.webcitation.org/60omXTHqC ). As you can see, there has been much
for Harmony residents to be worried about over the course of many years now.

I was hoping (and I am sure that Dave was as well) that the list of
chemicals not tested for would be so small that we could rest assured that
the likelihood of contamination would be slim. Now I'm not so sure. I would
have thought that providing such reassuring information is the least that
Toho could do after all of the problems that we've had with the water in
Harmony for so long.

Now all we can do is wonder and use our imaginations. I guess that we can
also purchase thousands of dollars worth of water treatment systems for each
of our homes (as many of us have already done).

Thank you for trying anyway Mary. I am sure that you meant well.

[Geo]

I spoke to County Commissioner Fred Hawkins about this. I think that
Fred is inclined to agree that secrecy is no way to insure public
health.

It really makes no sense that the folks managing the Harmony Golf
Preserve or the folks managing Harmony High School should withhold
information about the chemicals they use on their grounds, especially
since Harmony residents have been so concerned for so long about the
quality of their drinking water.

Is there anything that you can do to help with this Fred?

On Aug 9, 5:43 pm, "Geo" <IIDIMGRLA...@spammotel.com> wrote:
> Mary wrote:
>
>     I have decided to rescind my offer to contact
>     the golf course and the school.
>
> Well this is very disappointing Mary. But honestly, it is not really
> surprising. When the tough questions get asked, the not-so-tough get going.
>
> I suspected that Brian Wheeler or someone else at Toho would override your
> kind offer to help us better understand our water situation. I am guessing
> that there are many more chemicals not tested for from the Harmony Golf
> Preserve than we can possibly imagine.
>
> I am also guessing that its the position of the Toho Water Authority that
> Harmony residents should just "hope for the best" when it comes to what may
> or may not be in our water.
>
> Here is a recent article from the Orlando Sentinel about Harmony's
> long-standing water problems (see "Some residents worried as state tells

> Harmony its drinking water must be safer",http://www.webcitation.org/60omXTHqC). As you can see, there has been much

> > a list of chemicals...
>
> read more »

[Fred Hawkins Jr.]

Sorry for the delay everyone. Busy schedule that kept me away from my computer and a non-cooperating computer when I got to it. Again I apologize.

I do not have a list of the chemicals that are used by the golf course at Harmony nor the ones that TOHO test for. That being said I do work with FDEP in my full time employment and they assured me they are aware of what chemicals and fertilizers are used. They even said they do spot inspections on storage and how the products are used.
While I do not think this explanation will satisfy everyone, I think it comes down to having to trust the system of checks and balances that are in place for public safety.
I was also told that as new products are developed, green technology and safety concerns are what directs the production and how frequently they are used.
As I said I don't think this is what some of you were looking for but I hope it does give more assurance to your concerns.

Take care and God Bless

Fred Hawkins, Jr.
Osceola County Commissioner
District 5
(407) 709-1078
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[Geo]

Thanks for looking into this Fred. I am inclined to agree that the water
testing processes currently in place should be sufficient for Harmony
residents to be confident in the quality of their drinking water. That said,
I am strongly in favor of transparency over secrecy and I truly believe that
more information rather than less is always to be preferred.

The ball is now in your court Dave. If I had the time (or your level of
concern) I would contact the FDEP and ask them for the list of chemicals
that the developer refuses to provide. I would then compare that list to the
"Toho test list" provided by Mary. Finally, I would report the results in
this forum showing which chemicals (if any) are being used by the developer
yet are not being tested for in our drinking water by Toho Water Authority.
If it turns out that no chemicals are used on the Harmony Golf Preserve that
are not also being tested for by Toho, this would be great news and a relief
for any concerned citizens.

Good luck Dave. I am sure that many of us support your efforts, even as we
remain silent.

[Roy Sampson]

After seven years of living with a water issue I would love to hear that this matter is resolve. I don't have 100% faith in the one's that are policeing themselves. If someone could get the answers that are being sought it would be well appreciated.
 
Thanks

[rescueg...@onebox.com]

George, are you serious?  No one in Harmony is "confident in the quality" of our water.  In my opinion, no one wants to (or should) drink the water in Harmony unless they have a whole house filter.  We have an extra filter in addition to our whole house filter for our drinking water.  That said, if you go back to Miss Mary's post, you will see that our water is pulled from an aquifer that is under a layer of clay that prevents seepage from surface water to contaminating our water.
So, while I think it prudent to test for chemicals used locally, I don't think that is the real issue with our crappy water.  As long as we have a public utility with rules made by someone else, with no way to buy our water elsewhere, we will continue to have crappy water.  I guarantee you, if Harmony residents had an alternative to TOHO, they would choose it in a heartbeat.  Since we don't, our only alternative is to use expensive filters and/or drink bottled water.
--
David Leeman
rescueg...@onebox.com - email

201-406-0244




----Original Message----
From:     "Geo"

On Aug 24, 2011, at 5:58 PM, "Geo" wrote:

> I spoke to County Commissioner Fred Hawkins about this. I think that
> Fred is inclined to agree that secrecy is no way to insure public
> health.
>
> It really makes no sense that the folks managing the Harmony Golf
> Preserve or the folks managing Harmony High School should withhold
> information about the chemicals they use on their grounds, especially
> since Harmony residents have been so concerned for so long about the
> quality of their drinking water.
>
> Is there anything that you can do to help with this Fred?
>
>

[Geo]

Well Dave, at least we know for sure that you are very concerned indeed.

 

I have tried to maintain a positive tone here and also avoid sounding alarmist. I think that an alarmist tone sends people scurrying, especially the people we need answers from. That said, I think that you were being a little unfair by taking my phrase out of context Dave. Here is what I wrote (in context):

 

    I am inclined to agree that the water testing processes
    currently in place should be sufficient for Harmony
    residents to be confident in the quality of their
    drinking water.

 

I didn't say that anyone is confident. I know that folks in Harmony don't have much confidence in their water. But on what basis do they lack confidence? Because it smells sulfurous? It's too hard?

 

The testing methods should be sufficient to give confidence, that is my assumption. Recent testing suggests that this is true. If this is not true, perhaps you know something that we don't Dave. I don't currently have any information to the contrary. So if you do, please share it.

 

Since I don't have the time, someone else will need to do the legwork on this one Dave. If you no longer believe that a list of chemicals from the developer or anyone else matters, then please do something that you think will matter. Produce something concrete that demonstrates Harmony's water is undrinkable. Show us that the water is somehow unsafe to drink. At times like this, hearsay means nothing. All that matters now are hard facts.

 

Can anyone else do more than talk here?

[Fred Hawkins Jr.]

I have to agree with Dave!  I do think the residence would choose another source for water.  I would like to see an independent study done to verify results.  I have been critical of TOHO but believe they are doing all they can with in the budget they have for this system.  I have been told by many that staying in the budget is the problem!  Instead of spending additional money a band aid approach has been taken.   Taking TOHO at their word, they have said recent test have proved positive results.  I would still like to see independent test, chosen by an outside party and paid for by TOHO?  Just a thought?

 

Fred Hawkins, Jr.

District 5 

Osceola County Commission

 

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From: harm...@googlegroups.com [harm...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rescueg...@onebox.com [rescueg...@onebox.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:32 PM

[Geo]

I think we may be finally getting somewhere.

Fred wrote:

I think it comes down to having to trust the system of
checks and balances that are in place for public
safety.

Then Fred wrote:

Taking TOHO at their word, they have said recent test
have proved positive results. I would still like to
see independent test, chosen by an outside party and
paid for by TOHO?

Unless I am reading it wrong, it would appear that the trust that Fred
first spoke of is lacking, not just among Harmony residents, but even
on the Osceola County Commission.

So how do we go about getting the Toho Water Authority to pay for an
independent test to verify that Harmony's water is safe to drink (and
wash with, bath with, etc.)? How do we make that happen Fred?

On Aug 30, 9:45 pm, Fred Hawkins Jr. <f...@OSCEOLA.ORG> wrote:
> I have to agree with Dave!  I do think the residence would choose another source for water.  I would like to see an independent study done to verify results.  I have been critical of TOHO but believe they are doing all they can with in the budget they have for this system.  I have been told by many that staying in the budget is the problem!  Instead of spending additional money a band aid approach has been taken.   Taking TOHO at their word, they have said recent test have proved positive results.  I would still like to see independent test, chosen by an outside party and paid for by TOHO?  Just a thought?
>
> Fred Hawkins, Jr.
> District 5
> Osceola County Commission
>
> ________________________________

> From: harm...@googlegroups.com [harm...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rescuegreyho...@onebox.com [rescuegreyho...@onebox.com]

> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:32 PM
> To: harm...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Request for Mary Guidone - 2011-07-21
>
> George, are you serious?  No one in Harmony is "confident in the quality" of our water.  In my opinion, no one wants to (or should) drink the water in Harmony unless they have a whole house filter.  We have an extra filter in addition to our whole house filter for our drinking water.  That said, if you go back to Miss Mary's post, you will see that our water is pulled from an aquifer that is under a layer of clay that prevents seepage from surface water to contaminating our water.
> So, while I think it prudent to test for chemicals used locally, I don't think that is the real issue with our crappy water.  As long as we have a public utility with rules made by someone else, with no way to buy our water elsewhere, we will continue to have crappy water.  I guarantee you, if Harmony residents had an alternative to TOHO, they would choose it in a heartbeat.  Since we don't, our only alternative is to use expensive filters and/or drink bottled water.
> --
> David Leeman

> rescuegreyho...@onebox.com - email

> ...
>
> read more »

[Fred Hawkins Jr.]

I wanted to respond to George's last post. I should have been a little more clearer. While I have been outspoken and at times very critical of TOHO, my last post was not meant to say I did not believe their reports. What I was trying to say is it would be a sign of transparency and a way of regaining public trust. That is why I feel reaching out to the community to select some company to independently verify the water results and for TOHO to pay for the testing would be a great step forward in the process of public relations.

Fred Hawkins, Jr.
Osceola County Commissioner
District 5
(407) 709-1078
Sent from my iPad

[Geo]

Thank you for that clarification Fred and also for stressing the issue
of transparency. Transparency and accountability are common threads
that I have written about many times in this forum and elsewhere.
These are very important to me.

I must say that I have had direct personal dealings with several
representatives of Toho Water going back to 2005, especially Barbara
Arrant. I even have a "Bad Water" journal that goes way back. Here's
the first entry:

03/18/2005 Left message for Barbara Arrant (407-518-2267) with Toho
Water.

Barbara has always been very straightforward and forthcoming with me.
I have never once been given the impression that Barbara (and Toho by
extension) has ever been anything less than honest or less than
sincerely concerned about whatever issues I have broached over the
years.

That said, considering the ongoing concerns of many Harmony residents,
I agree with Fred. For the sake of transparency and good public
relations, funding an independent test (or tests) is the right and
proper thing to do at this time.

So what's the next step to get this done Fred?

On Aug 31, 12:10 pm, Fred Hawkins Jr. <f...@OSCEOLA.ORG> wrote:
> I wanted to respond to George's last post.  I should have been a little more clearer.  While I have been outspoken and at times very critical of TOHO, my last post was not meant to say I did not believe their reports.  What I was trying to say is it would be a sign of transparency and a way of regaining public trust.  That is why I feel reaching out to the community to select some company to independently verify the water results and for TOHO to pay for the testing would be a great step forward in the process of public relations.
>
> Fred Hawkins, Jr.
> Osceola County Commissioner
> District 5
> (407) 709-1078
> Sent from my iPad
>

> >>>> relating to the Water Treatment...
>
> read more »

[Fred Hawkins Jr.]

I could request it of Commissioner Harford who represents the county on the TOHO board.

Fred Hawkins, Jr.
Osceola County Commissioner
District 5
(407) 709-1078
Sent from my iPad

[spberube]

Some months back, on a different Harmony forum, Mr.Helmut Meissner shared his INDEPENDENT PRIVATELY PAID FOR comprehensive water tests...you might remember that,initially, the bromides were reported to be way out of range which sent off quite a controversy.

The water testing lab then re-did the tests and found that things were not as originally interpreted.

I am posting Mr.Meissner's results here so that everyone can see them. I believe that this INDEPENDENT test should satisfy everyone's concerns as to what might be in our water.

Steve Berube

[Fred Hawkins Jr.]

Steve, Thanks for the information. I still think that future independent testing should be done. If I recall some time ago TOHO had 3 or 4 good results and then the quality dropped and caused the most recent concerns.
the importance of this is not only for the community but also for the other citizens that send their children to the schools.

Fred Hawkins, Jr.
District 5
Osceola County Commission

________________________________________
From: harm...@googlegroups.com [harm...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of spberube [spbe...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:39 PM

[Mary Rose Guidone]

Good Evening All,

Toho agrees with you that this request for independent testing is reasonable. I would be happy to coordinate with the Harmony HOA to make sure the lab chosen has the proper certifications.

Thank you and enjoy your holiday weekend.

Sincerely,

Mary Guidone
Toho Water Authority

[George Schiro]

It's been more than a month since your previous response Mary and almost 3
months since this topic was started.

Could we please get a status update on the independent test of Harmony's
water?

[Mary Rose Guidone]

Good Evening,

In an effort to continue transparency Toho has obliged a request from members of the Harmony Google Group to coordinate with the HROA for a certified lab to take an independent water quality sample. I sent an email today to the Master HROA Management Company (the email address for Kim Clifton was listed as the contact) asking for their assistance in coordinating this independent test.

Once I receive a response I will update the group as to when results can be expected.

Thank you.