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Geo
cut off again. Can you verify this? If this is indeed the case, are we
free to water our grass on non-watering days whenever this problem
occurs?
This problem has happened multiple times over the past few months.
Will this continue to be an ongoing problem? Has anyone elsewhere in
Harmony seen the same thing?
BTW, while we have been told that the "reclaimed water" source in
Harmony will eventually be reclaimed water, it is my understanding
that the reclaimed water system is actually carrying potable water. Is
this still true? If so, when can we expect that the reclaimed water
system in Harmony will really be carrying reclaimed water?
Jim Warren (Home)
I was told by Toho that reclaimed is switchable by Toho on / off, and that
they only switch it on wed / sat (the official watering days.
That's what they told me when I complained that it was not on......
Geo
schedule (see http://www.webcitation.org/5ySlMeCzV ), when you can water
depends on your street address. For example, since ours is an even numbered
address, we water on Thursdays and Sundays.
If you were told something else, then that's just one more good reason to
have public answers to such questions.
Hopefully the folks at Toho will have even more comprehensive answers soon.
Jim Warren (Home)
no reclaimed water.
Scroll down to find the reclaimed communities. Harmony is listed as Wed /
Sat
Geo
closer you will see that early morning waterers (which we are) need to water
on the following day of the posted schedule (which is why my wife told me
Thursdays and Sundays, at least for us). But without knowing whether or not
we really are on reclaimed water, who knows what we should be doing?
So according to Toho, Harmony is indeed a "reclaimed water" community, yet
as far as I know Toho is still running potable water through those lines. I
guess this makes the earlier questions all the more relevant Jim.
Ray Walls
In any case, my understanding is that potable water is running through our irrigation lines, though I'll let Toho confirm. My feelings as a customer are that irrigation water should be available whenever I need it since I'm paying to have it on. This is especially true when new plants or sod are put in the ground or when special treatments that require water are done to lawns. From what I've heard Toho say, the outages are not intentional most of the time.
Ray
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Jim Warren (Home)
But If I turn my sprinklers on Thursday / sun (which is the potable
schedule, they do not function due to no water pressure...?
I think this is what you are experiencing too right?
Geo
acknowledged).
On May 5, 9:08 pm, "Jim Warren \(Home\)" <jm.war...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
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As regards the irrigation water, TWA has QUIETLY been providing irrigation water 24/7....In fact, as I write this, it is on...this is largely due to the needs of the landscaping company what with the widespread sod replacement as well as fertilization and pest control going on....Without water, all that "catching-up" going on with landscaping would be for nothing...
As to yesterday's outage, and other short-term outages, TWA has told me that the irrigation controller at the plant has some problems and is scheduled for replacement during their next fiscal year.
Also, with a number of hydrants running to keep the drinking water fresh, it would seem oxymoronic to be limiting usage of water for irrigation purposes. I would expect that when the flushing ends, irrigation restrictions might return.
As to what kind of water it is: While we do indeed get some reclaimed water when it is available, the majority of the time it is water from the very same well that potable water is drawn from; but, it is only lightly treated with disinfectant so might not be termed "potable."
None of the above should be treated as gospel nor am I trying to speak or set policy for TWA; just figured I'd share what I know and/or believe to be true.
Steve
Geo
am I trying to speak or set policy for TWA", I would really prefer to
get official responses from Toho directly.
Mary, could you please let us know when you think that you, Mr. Nipper
or someone else at Toho Water will be responding to the questions
posted early yesterday?
Mary Rose Guidone
Harmony was planned and built to provide for landscape irrigation through reclaimed water supplemented with water from the Floridan Aquifer. The Community has a separate irrigation/non-potable water distribution system. However, the Community doesn't presently generate sufficient wastewater to provide an adequate supply of reclaimed water to meet the irrigation needs of the Community; therefore, the irrigation is provided through a water supply well to supplement the reclaimed water. The water in the irrigation system is non-potable and should be treated as reclaimed water which is also non-potable.
The irrigation system for Harmony is operated similar to a reclaimed water system until such time reclaim water is available. Customers in Harmony are charged reclaimed water rates for the operation and maintenance of the irrigation supply facility.
Landscape irrigation is limited throughout the Toho Water Authority area to only two days per week regardless of whether the supply is reclaimed water, potable water or some other water source. The limitation is to conserve the resource. Studies, including those by the University of Florida, have shown that irrigating two days per week is adequate to maintain Florida turf grasses. The irrigation days designated for Harmony are Wednesday and Saturday and irrigation is not allowed between the hours of 10AM and 4PM unless required by one of the exceptions outlined in the following sentence:
Customers are allowed to irrigate more than the two designated days when they are adding and growing in new sod and landscape, when lawn treatments are being applied, and when hand watering.
Recently the Harmony irrigation system has experienced outages as a result of a malfunctioning controller. Several attempts to repair or reprogram the controller have been unsuccessful. Therefore, the Authority had budgeted funds to replace the controller next fiscal year. However, due to the increased frequency of malfunctions of the controller, Toho has made the decision to replace.
The improvements to the operation and controls will be completed within the next three weeks.
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Jim Warren (Home)
However, who is responsible to replace our lawns when they go brown (and
have started to, and we are in a dry hot period) due to no 2 day irrigation?
Who will pay the HOA fines in the meantime also?
Concerned resident
Jim
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Geo
hypothetical questions that may be interpreted as confrontational,
especially since Mary has been responsive so far.
I think that your point is valid. But let's wait until the damage can
be documented before we put Mary on the spot this way. Please try to
keep accurate records and then share them publicly when the time
comes.
Your participation is appreciated Mary. Hopefully we will all try to
keep our inquiries cordial.
On May 9, 6:36 pm, "Jim Warren \(Home\)" <jm.war...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
Jim Warren (Home)
Hypothetical usually is better than waiting until the deed is done, as a
long drawn out process or finger pointing and legalities helps no one.
I think we should find out right now who takes responsibility, because to
me, taking 3 weeks to fix this issue is 2 weeks 6 days too long. Regardless
of budget.
It's a fault, and it needs to be rectified asap.
I appreciate Mary giving the initial information, and it is welcome.
However not having sprinklers is a concern.
So how do we escalate the issue to ensure the part is replaced tomorrow?
Jim
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wish they'd make up their minds! Btw i hear we are usint potable
water for irrigation but paying reclaimed prices, :(
Kathy
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