What does the term 'LODGER' mean in the VA?

[kdt...@gmail.com]

I am working in the ADT module. What does the term LODGER mean in the
VA? We don't have this term in my hospital. Is it someone in for
observation status? Is it someone in long term residence (like a
nursing home etc.)?

Thanks
Kevin

[Sam Habiel]

I don't know who told me this or if I invented it...

Back in the day, when you had extra hospital beds and family members
traveling from far away, you can have them sleep in beds in the
hospital. That's what a lodger is. You can admit them and discharge
them just like patients. And they get to occupy the bed in the system
while they are there.

Sam

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:35 PM, I, Valdes <iva...@hal-pc.org> wrote:
> I think that refers to Veterans who are staying in Domicilary
> facilities which is longer term stay sub-acute type thing, think
> nursing and group home.
>
> -- IV

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[Sam Habiel]

BTW: it's not so far fetched. I slept in a hospital once during a snow
storm. I worked two shifts already, and couldn't imagine doing a
third. They found a bed for me, and I slept fitfully. I was able to go
home the next day--subways were running. It was one of the NYC
blizzards.

Sam

[Mike Schrom]

It's someone occupying a bed for non medical reasons. We used to
"Lodge" patients receiving RadTx Monday to Friday, if they lived a
long distance away. I don't think it happens much anymore.

On Aug 11, 12:27 pm, Sam Habiel <sam.hab...@gmail.com> wrote:
> BTW: it's not so far fetched. I slept in a hospital once during a snow
> storm. I worked two shifts already, and couldn't imagine doing a
> third. They found a bed for me, and I slept fitfully. I was able to go
> home the next day--subways were running. It was one of the NYC
> blizzards.
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Sam Habiel <sam.hab...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I don't know who told me this or if I invented it...
>
> > Back in the day, when you had extra hospital beds and family members
> > traveling from far away, you can have them sleep in beds in the
> > hospital. That's what a lodger is. You can admit them and discharge
> > them just like patients. And they get to occupy the bed in the system
> > while they are there.
>
> > Sam
>

[kdt...@gmail.com]

Thank you all.

I see the concept of patients being admitted and then apparently being
allowed to leave the hospital on pass. That is also a strange thought
to me. Most of my admissions are in the terms of 1-5 days. If they
are well enough to go out on pass, then they are well enough to go
home. Oh well.

Kevin

[I, Valdes]

The Time Before Managed Care. I remember my physician Father talking
about that. It used to be you would stay a week or more in the
hospital for things managed care considers to be outpatient surgery
now. The patients would ask for long stays considering it their right:
I've paid for it doc, why don't you let me take some time off?
Insurance would pay. Those where the days... -- IV